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GAUBSTER2 December 29th 03 11:56 PM

From: "Barb"

You wouldn't call one cow an outbreak?


No sane person would think that one of anything is an "outbreak".



GAUBSTER2 December 29th 03 11:57 PM

From: "Barb"

LOL. I'm a Republican, not a leftist!!!

I know the story that the meat prices were jacked up because so many people
went on the lo-carb diet. That's the meat industry's story. How many
people do you know that are on that diet?


I know quite a few actually. You say it's just a story, but there are a LOT of
people jumping on the bandwagon of the low-carb craze.

GAUBSTER2 December 29th 03 11:57 PM

From: "Barb"

LOL. I'm a Republican, not a leftist!!!

I know the story that the meat prices were jacked up because so many people
went on the lo-carb diet. That's the meat industry's story. How many
people do you know that are on that diet?


I know quite a few actually. You say it's just a story, but there are a LOT of
people jumping on the bandwagon of the low-carb craze.

MacCandace December 30th 03 03:55 AM

What I'd like to know, but will probably never find out, is how this cow got
into the food chain in the first place, and why only after it got there, did
someone decide to raise a flag??

Judy

The way I understood it from what I read is that this was a dairy cow and the
only reason it was slaughtered is because it was ill and stumbling around. Now
that's what's really scary. A sick cow such as this is referred to as a
"downer" cow and only 10 percent of downer cows that are slaughtered are tested
so, conceivably, this could be a much huger problem. But really, how gross, to
pick a sick cow and purposely slaughter it and then have it sliced up and
rendered? Yuk.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

MacCandace December 30th 03 03:55 AM

What I'd like to know, but will probably never find out, is how this cow got
into the food chain in the first place, and why only after it got there, did
someone decide to raise a flag??

Judy

The way I understood it from what I read is that this was a dairy cow and the
only reason it was slaughtered is because it was ill and stumbling around. Now
that's what's really scary. A sick cow such as this is referred to as a
"downer" cow and only 10 percent of downer cows that are slaughtered are tested
so, conceivably, this could be a much huger problem. But really, how gross, to
pick a sick cow and purposely slaughter it and then have it sliced up and
rendered? Yuk.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

Cheryl December 30th 03 04:15 AM

MacCandace wrote in on
29 Dec 2003:

What I'd like to know, but will probably never find out, is how
this cow got into the food chain in the first place, and why only
after it got there, did someone decide to raise a flag??

Judy

The way I understood it from what I read is that this was a dairy cow
and the only reason it was slaughtered is because it was ill and
stumbling around. Now that's what's really scary. A sick cow such as
this is referred to as a "downer" cow and only 10 percent of downer
cows that are slaughtered are tested so, conceivably, this could be a
much huger problem. But really, how gross, to pick a sick cow and
purposely slaughter it and then have it sliced up and rendered? Yuk.


And according to the USDA and their "emotional" response to BSE they issued
this FAQ

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to ensure
that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human food
supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and the
meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these animals
are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratories for
analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html


--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller

Cheryl December 30th 03 04:15 AM

MacCandace wrote in on
29 Dec 2003:

What I'd like to know, but will probably never find out, is how
this cow got into the food chain in the first place, and why only
after it got there, did someone decide to raise a flag??

Judy

The way I understood it from what I read is that this was a dairy cow
and the only reason it was slaughtered is because it was ill and
stumbling around. Now that's what's really scary. A sick cow such as
this is referred to as a "downer" cow and only 10 percent of downer
cows that are slaughtered are tested so, conceivably, this could be a
much huger problem. But really, how gross, to pick a sick cow and
purposely slaughter it and then have it sliced up and rendered? Yuk.


And according to the USDA and their "emotional" response to BSE they issued
this FAQ

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to ensure
that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human food
supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and the
meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these animals
are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratories for
analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html


--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller

Cheryl December 30th 03 04:26 AM

Meghan Noecker wrote in on 29 Dec 2003:

On 30 Dec 2003 04:15:07 GMT, Cheryl
wrote:

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to
ensure that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human
food supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and
the meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these
animals are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services
Laboratories for analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html



Then how do they explain downer cows being used in Western Washington?
They can't walk. How can they be approved?


Exactly.



--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller

Cheryl December 30th 03 04:26 AM

Meghan Noecker wrote in on 29 Dec 2003:

On 30 Dec 2003 04:15:07 GMT, Cheryl
wrote:

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to
ensure that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human
food supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and
the meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these
animals are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services
Laboratories for analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html



Then how do they explain downer cows being used in Western Washington?
They can't walk. How can they be approved?


Exactly.



--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller

GAUBSTER2 December 30th 03 04:11 PM

Then how do they explain downer cows being used in Western Washington?
They can't walk. How can they be approved?


Exactly.


Um, maybe somebody didn't follow the rules? Just because a piece of paper says
something, doesn't mean it is always followed. North Korea Nuke Treaty
advocated by Clinton? Your local speed limits?


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