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GAUBSTER2 December 30th 03 04:11 PM

Then how do they explain downer cows being used in Western Washington?
They can't walk. How can they be approved?


Exactly.


Um, maybe somebody didn't follow the rules? Just because a piece of paper says
something, doesn't mean it is always followed. North Korea Nuke Treaty
advocated by Clinton? Your local speed limits?

GAUBSTER2 December 30th 03 04:13 PM

From: (Meghan Noecker)

They showed multiple downer cows being hauled in. It was disgusting at
how inhumanely the animals were treated, and more disgusting to think
that a dirty animal lying in feces and too sick to stand would be
considered good enough for usage as food.


Where did that footage originate? News stations are guilty of frequently using
"file footage" that is passed off as locally obtained.

I really believe that most of these problems would not exist, if all
down cows were put down humanely on the spot, a sample taken for
testing, and the rest of the cow destroyed with no usage whatsoever.
Yes, it would be a loss financially, but I would rather pay higher
prices for meat and products and cover that farmers' costs of doing
bsuiness, than risk a sick animal being put into the food system. If
the animal is sick enough to warrant testing, then it should be
considered a loss. As it is, they go into the system, and end up
spreading the problem.


I agree completely w/ you, Megan. As it is, out meat supply is pretty safe,
but this would be a good rule of thumb as far as I'm concerned.

GAUBSTER2 December 30th 03 04:13 PM

From: (Meghan Noecker)

They showed multiple downer cows being hauled in. It was disgusting at
how inhumanely the animals were treated, and more disgusting to think
that a dirty animal lying in feces and too sick to stand would be
considered good enough for usage as food.


Where did that footage originate? News stations are guilty of frequently using
"file footage" that is passed off as locally obtained.

I really believe that most of these problems would not exist, if all
down cows were put down humanely on the spot, a sample taken for
testing, and the rest of the cow destroyed with no usage whatsoever.
Yes, it would be a loss financially, but I would rather pay higher
prices for meat and products and cover that farmers' costs of doing
bsuiness, than risk a sick animal being put into the food system. If
the animal is sick enough to warrant testing, then it should be
considered a loss. As it is, they go into the system, and end up
spreading the problem.


I agree completely w/ you, Megan. As it is, out meat supply is pretty safe,
but this would be a good rule of thumb as far as I'm concerned.

Betsy December 30th 03 04:14 PM

Based on the facts in the case, isn't this statement an outright lie? Or am
I missing something?


And according to the USDA and their "emotional" response to BSE they

issued
this FAQ

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to

ensure
that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human food
supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and the
meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these animals
are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratories for
analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html


--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller




Betsy December 30th 03 04:14 PM

Based on the facts in the case, isn't this statement an outright lie? Or am
I missing something?


And according to the USDA and their "emotional" response to BSE they

issued
this FAQ

What actions are taken at USDA-inspected slaughter establishments to

ensure
that cattle with neurological disease would not enter the human food
supply?

All cattle presented for slaughter in the United States are inspected
before slaughter by FSIS for signs of CNS impairment. Any animals
exhibiting neurologic signs during this inspection are condemned, and the
meat is not permitted for use as human food. The brains from these animals
are submitted to USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratories for
analysis.
http://aphisweb.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/i...-overview.html


--
Cheryl

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I
can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller




Barb December 30th 03 06:01 PM

Lauren?

I don't know how to cut and paste a post! Sorry. I think it was good old
Gaubster that thought downer cows are not put into our food supply.

--
Barb
I can only please one person a day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.



Barb December 30th 03 06:01 PM

Lauren?

I don't know how to cut and paste a post! Sorry. I think it was good old
Gaubster that thought downer cows are not put into our food supply.

--
Barb
I can only please one person a day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.



Carrie-Lou Salter December 30th 03 06:05 PM


"Barb" wrote in message
...
snip
Why would they have bought cows from Canada where they had an outbreak of
the disease?

--
Barb
I can only please one person a day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.


Outbreak?!?!?!

Ummmm.....one cow...that had already been culled from the herd (killed), was
tested a few months later and was found to have BSE......how the hell does
that make it an outbreak??

Carrie
Nova Scotia, Canada
I LOVE CANADIAN BEEF! -- Flame me if you want



Carrie-Lou Salter December 30th 03 06:05 PM


"Barb" wrote in message
...
snip
Why would they have bought cows from Canada where they had an outbreak of
the disease?

--
Barb
I can only please one person a day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.


Outbreak?!?!?!

Ummmm.....one cow...that had already been culled from the herd (killed), was
tested a few months later and was found to have BSE......how the hell does
that make it an outbreak??

Carrie
Nova Scotia, Canada
I LOVE CANADIAN BEEF! -- Flame me if you want



PawsForThought December 30th 03 07:39 PM

From: "Barb"

Lauren?

I don't know how to cut and paste a post! Sorry. I think it was good old
Gaubster that thought downer cows are not put into our food supply.


That's ok, Barb. It just makes it easier to follow along. I don't know what
software you're using to post, but the way I cut and paste is to highlight the
portion of the post I want to respond to (including the author's name) and then
click on quote (or you can highlight it, then right click on it and click on
Copy). Then when you are composing your post, just right click in a blank
space and click on Paste.

Not sure how well I explained this, but I hope it helps :)

Lauren


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