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jmcquown[_2_] June 4th 15 05:42 PM

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Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

Christina Websell June 4th 15 09:17 PM

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"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill


She's lovely.



jmcquown[_2_] June 4th 15 09:33 PM

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On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill


She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.

Jill

Takayuki June 4th 15 10:28 PM

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On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:33:09 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Your first front-clawed cat? :) She's just precious, and after pointing the
Facebook group to your pictures, they're just oohing and aahing over how
pretty she is.

jmcquown[_2_] June 4th 15 11:00 PM

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On 6/4/2015 5:28 PM, Takayuki wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:33:09 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Your first front-clawed cat? :) She's just precious, and after pointing the
Facebook group to your pictures, they're just oohing and aahing over how
pretty she is.

Persia was the only other cat I ever had. Whoever had her before me had
front declawed her. So yes, Buffy is my first fully clawed cat.

I know Buffy isn't extending her claws to hurt me. She's doing it
because she wants to hang on so as not to fall. When she's in my lap
she uses her claws to hold on to *me* before jumping down. Yes, those
sharp little claws hurt.

Eventually I'll have to learn how to get her to let me clip her claws.
That should be a getting to know you process! :)

I also suspect she might need a tooth cleaning. She's been rubbing her
mouth against my hand. This is not just cheek to cheek transfer of
pheromones. When her gums are exposed I can see her teeth don't look
all that great. That might be why she's been avoiding food until last
night. She ate some more gooshy food again this morning. Then she ate
some of the dry, but only after I sprinkled some of Persia's favourite
dried barley grass on it.

It's too bad the caregiver had absolutely no veterinary records
information about Buffy.

Jill

MaryL[_2_] June 4th 15 11:17 PM

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On 6/4/2015 5:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/4/2015 5:28 PM, Takayuki wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:33:09 -0400, jmcquown
wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Your first front-clawed cat? :) She's just precious, and after
pointing the
Facebook group to your pictures, they're just oohing and aahing over how
pretty she is.

Persia was the only other cat I ever had. Whoever had her before me had
front declawed her. So yes, Buffy is my first fully clawed cat.

I know Buffy isn't extending her claws to hurt me. She's doing it
because she wants to hang on so as not to fall. When she's in my lap
she uses her claws to hold on to *me* before jumping down. Yes, those
sharp little claws hurt.

Eventually I'll have to learn how to get her to let me clip her claws.
That should be a getting to know you process! :)

I also suspect she might need a tooth cleaning. She's been rubbing her
mouth against my hand. This is not just cheek to cheek transfer of
pheromones. When her gums are exposed I can see her teeth don't look
all that great. That might be why she's been avoiding food until last
night. She ate some more gooshy food again this morning. Then she ate
some of the dry, but only after I sprinkled some of Persia's favourite
dried barley grass on it.

It's too bad the caregiver had absolutely no veterinary records
information about Buffy.

Jill

Yes, a complete physical exam is in order. One of the symptoms when
Duffy needed to have teeth pulled (both times) is that he started to cry
in a loud, complaining voice, and he kept rubbing his mouth against my
chin. He would rub hard!--so hard his teeth were uncomfortable against
my chin. After the offending teeth were pulled, he stopped doing that.

MaryL


jmcquown[_2_] June 4th 15 11:25 PM

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On 6/4/2015 6:17 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/4/2015 5:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/4/2015 5:28 PM, Takayuki wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:33:09 -0400, jmcquown
wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those
claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.

Your first front-clawed cat? :) She's just precious, and after
pointing the
Facebook group to your pictures, they're just oohing and aahing over how
pretty she is.

Persia was the only other cat I ever had. Whoever had her before me had
front declawed her. So yes, Buffy is my first fully clawed cat.

I know Buffy isn't extending her claws to hurt me. She's doing it
because she wants to hang on so as not to fall. When she's in my lap
she uses her claws to hold on to *me* before jumping down. Yes, those
sharp little claws hurt.

Eventually I'll have to learn how to get her to let me clip her claws.
That should be a getting to know you process! :)

I also suspect she might need a tooth cleaning. She's been rubbing her
mouth against my hand. This is not just cheek to cheek transfer of
pheromones. When her gums are exposed I can see her teeth don't look
all that great. That might be why she's been avoiding food until last
night. She ate some more gooshy food again this morning. Then she ate
some of the dry, but only after I sprinkled some of Persia's favourite
dried barley grass on it.

It's too bad the caregiver had absolutely no veterinary records
information about Buffy.

Jill

Yes, a complete physical exam is in order. One of the symptoms when
Duffy needed to have teeth pulled (both times) is that he started to cry
in a loud, complaining voice, and he kept rubbing his mouth against my
chin. He would rub hard!--so hard his teeth were uncomfortable against
my chin. After the offending teeth were pulled, he stopped doing that.

MaryL

Yes, I'm thinking this is definitely in order. It's the one problem you
encounter when you adopt a cat... there's no real information.

Jill

Bastette June 5th 15 02:35 AM

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jmcquown wrote:

Here's Buffy!


http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg


She's so sweet looking! You got yourself a good one. :)

--
Joyce

- Mommy loves you too my sweaty litter baby fire
- Ummm what mom?
- MY SWEET LITTLE BABY GIRL!! sorry honey!
-- damnyouautocorrect.com

William Vetter June 5th 15 07:07 PM

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jmcquown wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something to
be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When she's
in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

When the claws are out, don't pull your arm away. The instinct will be
to dig in. Leave your hand in the cat's grasp until she releases you.

Christina Websell June 7th 15 06:44 PM

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"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill


She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over, and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)
Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and approaching my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is. Like
"I've told you twice nicely, now I mean it.." but he never would actually
touch my face with a claw. Which are quite serious claws. I don't clip
them, I think he needs them to go outside: he sharpens them himself on my
trees.
Buffy is very lucky you adopted her. She looks middle-aged plus, do you
agree? I'm sure she will bring you much pleasure and companionship.

Lots of luck with your new girl.
Tweed
P.S. anything I ever adopted from a shelter or a bad home always cost me
megabucks in veterinary bills at first. Worth it in the end.






Christina Websell June 7th 15 08:15 PM

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"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
On 6/4/2015 6:17 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/4/2015 5:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/4/2015 5:28 PM, Takayuki wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:33:09 -0400, jmcquown
wrote:
Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those
claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her
around. When she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.

Your first front-clawed cat? :) She's just precious, and after
pointing the
Facebook group to your pictures, they're just oohing and aahing over
how
pretty she is.

Persia was the only other cat I ever had. Whoever had her before me had
front declawed her. So yes, Buffy is my first fully clawed cat.

I know Buffy isn't extending her claws to hurt me. She's doing it
because she wants to hang on so as not to fall. When she's in my lap
she uses her claws to hold on to *me* before jumping down. Yes, those
sharp little claws hurt.

Eventually I'll have to learn how to get her to let me clip her claws.
That should be a getting to know you process! :)

I also suspect she might need a tooth cleaning. She's been rubbing her
mouth against my hand. This is not just cheek to cheek transfer of
pheromones. When her gums are exposed I can see her teeth don't look
all that great. That might be why she's been avoiding food until last
night. She ate some more gooshy food again this morning. Then she ate
some of the dry, but only after I sprinkled some of Persia's favourite
dried barley grass on it.

It's too bad the caregiver had absolutely no veterinary records
information about Buffy.

Jill

Yes, a complete physical exam is in order. One of the symptoms when
Duffy needed to have teeth pulled (both times) is that he started to cry
in a loud, complaining voice, and he kept rubbing his mouth against my
chin. He would rub hard!--so hard his teeth were uncomfortable against
my chin. After the offending teeth were pulled, he stopped doing that.

MaryL

Yes, I'm thinking this is definitely in order. It's the one problem you
encounter when you adopt a cat... there's no real information.

Jill


Both mine decided to adopt me. I did find out eventually after many years
where KFC came from but Boyfriend will always be a mystery.
Anyway, whoever had him once had the chance to claim him back via newspaper
and radio and adverts in shops and didn't.
I can't imagine that anyone who once had him wouldn't want him back. Like
immediately. Anyway they didn't, so I got him for me. He's just such a
lovely cat.







Christina Websell June 8th 15 12:50 AM

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"The Other Guy" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 18:44:56 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually
patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and approaching
my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is.


GLyN is also very much aware of his claws.

When he's asleep on my chest, or sleeping next to me in bed,
he will sometimes stretch his legs up to touch my face or throat,
but he never puts his claws out then.

But if he is really unhappy about something, or falling off my
lap, he can and does use his claws, though he seldom draws any
blood at all.


Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.



EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) June 8th 15 08:12 PM

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Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)

MaryL[_2_] June 8th 15 09:42 PM

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On 6/8/2015 2:12 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)


Actually, I have both. I have a number of scratching posts and two cat
trees that are beginning to get well-shredded. One chair has a number
of scratched areas. Other than that, my cats have not damaged the walls
or furniture. They have the run of the house and leave their fur
everywhere, but no damage. However, when it comes to a question of cats
or furniture, there is no doubt about it...my cats have absolute priority.

MaryL


Christina Websell June 9th 15 08:50 PM

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"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Christina Websell" wrote:
"The Other Guy" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 18:44:56 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually
patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is
also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and
approaching
my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is.

GLyN is also very much aware of his claws.

When he's asleep on my chest, or sleeping next to me in bed,
he will sometimes stretch his legs up to touch my face or throat,
but he never puts his claws out then.

But if he is really unhappy about something, or falling off my
lap, he can and does use his claws, though he seldom draws any
blood at all.


Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


Sadly, not only America, Canada too. ??
--
Adrian


Really? Canada too?

Its disgusting in every country






jmcquown[_2_] June 9th 15 09:53 PM

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On 6/9/2015 3:50 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Christina Websell" wrote:
"The Other Guy" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 18:44:56 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually
patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is
also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and
approaching
my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is.

GLyN is also very much aware of his claws.

When he's asleep on my chest, or sleeping next to me in bed,
he will sometimes stretch his legs up to touch my face or throat,
but he never puts his claws out then.

But if he is really unhappy about something, or falling off my
lap, he can and does use his claws, though he seldom draws any
blood at all.


Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


Sadly, not only America, Canada too. ??
--
Adrian


Really? Canada too?

Its disgusting in every country


I'm sure we all agree, Tweed. As members of a cat newsgroup we cannot
change continent-wide policies. FYI, we DO have no-kill shelters in
North America. :)

Jill

Christina Websell June 9th 15 10:09 PM

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
...


Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)


Boyfie did once attack the arm of my chair because he was told it was not
time for his food. Bad idea. I put him him outside to reflect.












dgk June 10th 15 03:52 PM

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On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:42:09 -0500, MaryL
wrote:

On 6/8/2015 2:12 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)


Actually, I have both. I have a number of scratching posts and two cat
trees that are beginning to get well-shredded. One chair has a number
of scratched areas. Other than that, my cats have not damaged the walls
or furniture. They have the run of the house and leave their fur
everywhere, but no damage. However, when it comes to a question of cats
or furniture, there is no doubt about it...my cats have absolute priority.

MaryL



My cats don't normally damage the good furniture. Marlo has it in for
some cheap dining roo chairs. Something about the imitation leather
annoys her so she tries to remove it from two chairs. I have no idea
what it is about those two chairs but they've actually been discarded
since I'm probably moving in a few weeks.

The don't damage the few real leather chairs that I have. Nor any of
the wood although they do carve their initials into the redwood table
on the deck in the backyard. I've replaced the legs on that table
since it was starting to collapse from years of acting as a scratching
post.

jmcquown[_2_] June 11th 15 01:30 PM

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On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over, and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)


I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is
not even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I
couldn't live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the
indoor temp set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for
me. I have to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.

Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and approaching my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is. Like
"I've told you twice nicely, now I mean it.." but he never would actually
touch my face with a claw. Which are quite serious claws. I don't clip
them, I think he needs them to go outside: he sharpens them himself on my
trees.
Buffy is very lucky you adopted her. She looks middle-aged plus, do you
agree? I'm sure she will bring you much pleasure and companionship.

As with Persia, I have no idea how old she is. Best guess is 6 or 7
years old. :)

Lots of luck with your new girl.


Thanks! She's a really sweet cat.

Tweed
P.S. anything I ever adopted from a shelter or a bad home always cost me
megabucks in veterinary bills at first. Worth it in the end.

I'm not terribly worried about vet bills. I just don't want to get
clawed to pieces. She's getting better about it. If I gently touch her
front paws and say "claws" (as Judith suggested) she retracts them. She
doesn't know she's doing anything to hurt me but yes, those little claws
are razor sharp!

So far she's ignoring the two scratching posts I bought for her.

I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)

Jill

MaryL[_2_] June 11th 15 02:03 PM

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On 6/11/2015 7:30 AM, jmcquown wrote:

I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)

Jill


It's possible that her previous catslave clipped her nails. If so, that
will make it easier for you. When you do trip her nails, be sure to
look for the dark area and *do not* cut into it. That's the quick that
involves nerves and blood vessels. Of course, it's really not a
disaster if the quick is cut, but that could involve considerable
bleeding. Just cut in front of the quick, and you won't have that type
of problem.
https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtu...our-cats-claws
http://pets.webmd.com/cats/guide/cat-nail-clipping-care

MaryL


MaryL


jmcquown[_2_] June 11th 15 02:12 PM

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On 6/11/2015 9:03 AM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/11/2015 7:30 AM, jmcquown wrote:

I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)

Jill


It's possible that her previous catslave clipped her nails. If so, that
will make it easier for you. When you do trip her nails, be sure to
look for the dark area and *do not* cut into it. That's the quick that
involves nerves and blood vessels. Of course, it's really not a
disaster if the quick is cut, but that could involve considerable
bleeding. Just cut in front of the quick, and you won't have that type
of problem.
https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtu...our-cats-claws

http://pets.webmd.com/cats/guide/cat-nail-clipping-care

MaryL


Thanks, Mary! I know about not cutting down to the quick. I grew up
with birds and birds have claws, too. :)

Jill

MaryL[_2_] June 11th 15 02:54 PM

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On 6/11/2015 8:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:

Thanks, Mary! I know about not cutting down to the quick. I grew up
with birds and birds have claws, too. :)

Jill


Aha! I should have remembered that. You had a bird when I read your
first messages on rpca.

MaryL


jmcquown[_2_] June 11th 15 04:13 PM

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On 6/11/2015 9:54 AM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/11/2015 8:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:

Thanks, Mary! I know about not cutting down to the quick. I grew up
with birds and birds have claws, too. :)

Jill


Aha! I should have remembered that. You had a bird when I read your
first messages on rpca.

MaryL

I grew up with parakeets/budgies. Birds were the only pet my father
would allow in the house. For some reason he did not like cats. Which
is odd, because when my middle brother was about 11 years old they got
him a kitten. (Princess was a small orange tabby, looked a lot like
Buffy.) Then we were transferred to Thailand and couldn't take Princess
with us so we gave her to my aunt. Princess was allowed to run loose
outside and was hit by a car. (sigh)

Jill

MaryL[_2_] June 11th 15 08:58 PM

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On 6/11/2015 10:13 AM, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/11/2015 9:54 AM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/11/2015 8:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:

Thanks, Mary! I know about not cutting down to the quick. I grew up
with birds and birds have claws, too. :)

Jill


Aha! I should have remembered that. You had a bird when I read your
first messages on rpca.

MaryL

I grew up with parakeets/budgies. Birds were the only pet my father
would allow in the house. For some reason he did not like cats. Which
is odd, because when my middle brother was about 11 years old they got
him a kitten. (Princess was a small orange tabby, looked a lot like
Buffy.) Then we were transferred to Thailand and couldn't take Princess
with us so we gave her to my aunt. Princess was allowed to run loose
outside and was hit by a car. (sigh)

Jill


Our household had some similarities. I grew up in a rural part of
northeast Ohio, and we had a lot of animals--ponies and a horse, cats,
wonderful collies (the "Lassie"-type), plus chickens, turkeys, etc. We
had parakeets, and Mother did not permit any other animal in the house.
The dogs were killed on the road, and when my cat was also killed on
the road I swore that I would never have another cat or dog until I
could keep it in the house. I stuck to that decision. I got my first
cat (as an adult) when I left for graduate school in Lincoln, Nebraska
and wanted a companion. My mother seemed to understand how I felt, and
after that time she always accepted my cats in her home when I returned
home at Christmas and for summer vacation. Years later, she moved into
my home (east Texas) after my father died, and I became her sole
caretaker. She actually enjoyed spending time with my cats (first
Amber, then Holly - both RB). One of my favorite pictures is a picture
of Mother asleep on the sofa with Amber stretched out beside her.

MaryL


Christina Websell June 12th 15 12:17 AM

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"jmcquown" wrote in message
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On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
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On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
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Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around.
When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over,
and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only
like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time
I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)


I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is not
even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I couldn't
live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the indoor temp
set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for me. I have
to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


Leave it up to you. A blanket is essential if you want a cat on your lap
with claws. You have to adapt to it despite the temperature. Or let your
thighs be pricked. You''ll get used to having a cat with front claws. You
need a blanket on your lap. Buffy has claws on all four feet. You never
had one before.

I sickens me every day that declawing is allowed anywhere.
It's disgusting.







MaryL[_2_] June 12th 15 12:51 AM

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On 6/11/2015 6:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
...
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around.
When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over,
and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only
like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time
I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)


I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is not
even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I couldn't
live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the indoor temp
set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for me. I have
to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


Leave it up to you. A blanket is essential if you want a cat on your lap
with claws. You have to adapt to it despite the temperature. Or let your
thighs be pricked. You''ll get used to having a cat with front claws. You
need a blanket on your lap. Buffy has claws on all four feet. You never
had one before.

I sickens me every day that declawing is allowed anywhere.
It's disgusting.

All of my cats have all of their claws, but I do not need to use a
blanket on my lap. I occasionally feel the sharp prick of their claws,
but they never dig in. All I need to do is adjust my position slightly,
and they will withdraw their claws. However, I think Jill could use a
very lightweight blanket if she needs one. The temp here has been in
the 90s (F), but I keep the air conditioner set at 73 degrees.

MaryL



Rusty[_2_] June 12th 15 01:38 AM

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On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" t wrote in message
news:
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:.
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over, and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)


I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is
not even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I
couldn't live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the
indoor temp set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for
me. I have to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


I put a Purr Pad on my lap and Rusy loved to sit on purr pad.
It worked very well as purr pads are very light and made of polyester, I think.
It gets very hot here too.
Plus the Purr Pad trapped any fur Rusty shed.
You can get them at pets store.

Actually he is very aware of his claws, he holds back from actually patting
my face when he thinks teatime is late, he just "pretends" to. He is also
capable of putting just "one" claw out from his front paw and approaching my
face with it if I keep saying "it's not time" and he thinks it is. Like
"I've told you twice nicely, now I mean it.." but he never would actually
touch my face with a claw. Which are quite serious claws. I don't clip
them, I think he needs them to go outside: he sharpens them himself on my
trees.
Buffy is very lucky you adopted her. She looks middle-aged plus, do you
agree? I'm sure she will bring you much pleasure and companionship.

As with Persia, I have no idea how old she is. Best guess is 6 or 7
years old. :)

Lots of luck with your new girl.


Thanks! She's a really sweet cat.

Tweed
P.S. anything I ever adopted from a shelter or a bad home always cost me
megabucks in veterinary bills at first. Worth it in the end.

I'm not terribly worried about vet bills. I just don't want to get
clawed to pieces. She's getting better about it. If I gently touch her
front paws and say "claws" (as Judith suggested) she retracts them. She
doesn't know she's doing anything to hurt me but yes, those little claws
are razor sharp!

So far she's ignoring the two scratching posts I bought for her.


Are these vertical scratching posts? Rusty won't use them.
The one I got hang from a door knob.
When I put it flat on the floor, he went for it with gusto.


I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)


After 15 years, it was still a struggle for me to clip Rusty's claws.
If you cut to the quick by accident like I did when Rusty squirmed and struggled, you can put a bit of flour to stop the bleeding.
That was what the vet told me to do

Winnie

Jill



jmcquown[_2_] June 12th 15 04:56 AM

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On 6/11/2015 8:38 PM, Rusty wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" t wrote in message
news:
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:.
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over, and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)


I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is
not even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I
couldn't live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the
indoor temp set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for
me. I have to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


I put a Purr Pad on my lap and Rusy loved to sit on purr pad.
It worked very well as purr pads are very light and made of polyester, I think.
It gets very hot here too.
Plus the Purr Pad trapped any fur Rusty shed.
You can get them at pets store.

There aren't any pet stores where I live. I'm not even sure the PetCo
(or is it PetSmart?) is still open. It's on the other side of town. At
any rate, anything polyester would be terribly hot. Cotton is king
around my house. Nearly all my clothing is 100% cotton or linen. I am
of that "age" where I get hot easily, if you know what I mean.

So far she's ignoring the two scratching posts I bought for her.


Are these vertical scratching posts? Rusty won't use them.
The one I got hang from a door knob.
When I put it flat on the floor, he went for it with gusto.

I got one that is flat and one that is verticle. I've even showed her
how to scratch at them. She's ignoring them but my fingernails never
looked better! LOL Actually, she's been scratching at the wooden posts
on that piece of cat furniture I have, as intended.

I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)


After 15 years, it was still a struggle for me to clip Rusty's claws.
If you cut to the quick by accident like I did when Rusty squirmed and struggled, you can put a bit of flour to stop the bleeding.
That was what the vet told me to do

Winnie

Good tip, thanks! I actually thought about buying a styptic pencil just
in case I clip too far. Flour, I already have. Thanks! :)

Jill

Rusty[_2_] June 12th 15 01:37 PM

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On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/11/2015 8:38 PM, Rusty wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:.
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture, something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around. When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over, and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)

I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is
not even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I
couldn't live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the
indoor temp set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for
me. I have to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


I put a Purr Pad on my lap and Rusy loved to sit on purr pad.
It worked very well as purr pads are very light and made of polyester, I think.
It gets very hot here too.
Plus the Purr Pad trapped any fur Rusty shed.
You can get them at pets store.

There aren't any pet stores where I live. I'm not even sure the PetCo
(or is it PetSmart?) is still open. It's on the other side of town. At
any rate, anything polyester would be terribly hot. Cotton is king
around my house. Nearly all my clothing is 100% cotton or linen. I am
of that "age" where I get hot easily, if you know what I mean.


Purr Pads are probably available online where you ordered the nail clipper.

jmcquown[_2_] June 12th 15 03:10 PM

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On 6/11/2015 3:58 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/11/2015 10:13 AM, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/11/2015 9:54 AM, MaryL wrote:
On 6/11/2015 8:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:

Thanks, Mary! I know about not cutting down to the quick. I grew up
with birds and birds have claws, too. :)

Jill

Aha! I should have remembered that. You had a bird when I read your
first messages on rpca.

MaryL

I grew up with parakeets/budgies. Birds were the only pet my father
would allow in the house. For some reason he did not like cats. Which
is odd, because when my middle brother was about 11 years old they got
him a kitten. (Princess was a small orange tabby, looked a lot like
Buffy.) Then we were transferred to Thailand and couldn't take Princess
with us so we gave her to my aunt. Princess was allowed to run loose
outside and was hit by a car. (sigh)

Jill


Our household had some similarities. I grew up in a rural part of
northeast Ohio, and we had a lot of animals--ponies and a horse, cats,
wonderful collies (the "Lassie"-type), plus chickens, turkeys, etc. We
had parakeets, and Mother did not permit any other animal in the house.
The dogs were killed on the road, and when my cat was also killed on
the road I swore that I would never have another cat or dog until I
could keep it in the house. I stuck to that decision.


I think it's a good decision. I know all about the indoor-outdoor
debate, don't want to get into that. Suffice to say indoors is safer
than outdoors wherever I've lived.

I got my first cat (as an adult) when I left for graduate school in Lincoln, Nebraska
and wanted a companion. My mother seemed to understand how I felt, and
after that time she always accepted my cats in her home when I returned
home at Christmas and for summer vacation. Years later, she moved into
my home (east Texas) after my father died, and I became her sole
caretaker. She actually enjoyed spending time with my cats (first
Amber, then Holly - both RB). One of my favorite pictures is a picture
of Mother asleep on the sofa with Amber stretched out beside her.

MaryL

That's a sweet picture to have (and a nice memory). :) My mother never
did get used to Persia. They had a mutual understanding: we both live
here. You don't bother me, I won't bother you. Fair enough.

My dad had an attitude about my dog, Sampson. When I was getting
divorced and had to temporarily move back in with my folks he was all
"You're not bringing that dog into my house." Okay, I'll find another
place to live. (Grudgingly) "Okay, bring the dog." He was a small dog,
what possible harm could he do? Next thing I knew Dad was on the floor
playing with the dog and Mom was cooking him scrambled eggs for
breakfast after I left for work. Criminitly! No wonder he won't eat
his Alpo!

Jill

Christina Websell June 14th 15 10:09 PM

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)


Once upon a long time ago Boyfie clawed my furniture to attract my attention
about teatime. I told him "if you do that one more time, I will put you
outside" He did it one more time so I put him outside. He never clawed my
furniture again.
He knows very well what I say, sometimes he chances his luck.




Lord Bergamot[_2_] June 14th 15 10:11 PM

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Christina wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
...


Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)

Once upon a long time ago Boyfie clawed my furniture to attract my attention
about teatime. I told him "if you do that one more time, I will put you
outside" He did it one more time so I put him outside. He never clawed my
furniture again.
He knows very well what I say, sometimes he chances his luck.


Shut up you stupid ****.

--
:-)
Don't let the Zombies get you!!!!

My God is better than your god!!!!


Christina Websell June 14th 15 11:02 PM

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"jmcquown" wrote in message
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On 6/11/2015 8:38 PM, Rusty wrote:
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:30:53 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
On 6/7/2015 1:44 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" t wrote in message
news:
On 6/4/2015 4:17 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message
news:.
Here's Buffy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/10miykn.jpg

Jill

She's lovely.


Yes, she is. If she'd only stop trying to hold onto me with those
claws
extended. She's sort of treating me like a piece of furniture,
something
to be grabbed onto. It's not as if I'm trying to carry her around.
When
she's in my lap and I need to get up sometimes ouch!

I'll need to get a lesson in claw clipping.


Ah, yes, I'd forgotten Persia had been front declawed. Boyfie has
only
once grabbed me hard - he was so fast asleep on my lap, he rolled over,
and
started to fall. Ouch, but very forgivable in the circumstances.
Although, he is often so ecstatic when he's on my lap that he cannot
help
flexing his claws in and out slightly whilst he's purring. That's only
like
pinpricks though. I've learned to put a blanket over my knee every
time I
sit down. You might have to do the same ;-)

I would *melt* if I had to put a blanket over my knees every time I sat
down. The climate is quite different here from where you live. It is
not even mid-June and already the outside temps are 90°F/32°C. I
couldn't live without air conditioning. This time of year I keep the
indoor temp set around 73°F/23°C and even that is *just* comfortable for
me. I have to run a fan to be able to sleep at night.


I put a Purr Pad on my lap and Rusy loved to sit on purr pad.
It worked very well as purr pads are very light and made of polyester, I
think.
It gets very hot here too.
Plus the Purr Pad trapped any fur Rusty shed.
You can get them at pets store.

There aren't any pet stores where I live. I'm not even sure the PetCo (or
is it PetSmart?) is still open. It's on the other side of town. At any
rate, anything polyester would be terribly hot. Cotton is king around my
house. Nearly all my clothing is 100% cotton or linen. I am of that
"age" where I get hot easily, if you know what I mean.

So far she's ignoring the two scratching posts I bought for her.


Are these vertical scratching posts? Rusty won't use them.
The one I got hang from a door knob.
When I put it flat on the floor, he went for it with gusto.

I got one that is flat and one that is verticle. I've even showed her how
to scratch at them. She's ignoring them but my fingernails never looked
better! LOL Actually, she's been scratching at the wooden posts on that
piece of cat furniture I have, as intended.

I ordered a nail clipper. I've been getting her used to my touching her
paws so I don't think it will be a big deal for me to clip them. Buffy
is a rather laid back cat. :)


After 15 years, it was still a struggle for me to clip Rusty's claws.
If you cut to the quick by accident like I did when Rusty squirmed and
struggled, you can put a bit of flour to stop the bleeding.
That was what the vet told me to do

Winnie


Claws are no problem here. All Uk cats have full sets;
Good tip, thanks! I actually thought about buying a styptic pencil just
in case I clip too far. Flour, I already have. Thanks! :)

Jill

you have a cat with all claws but she has not learnt about "never touch your
meowmie with your claws"
I don't know how Boyfie learnt this, but he did. He just knows that. Never
do the claws..
Unless pressing a point about when meowmie says "not time yet" for teatime.
I get the one claw then. In case I
didn't notice the nearly pat on the face. He never touches me with it, it's
just the next thing to say if the nearly pat is ignored.

idn't notiver the pat

..



Christina Websell June 21st 15 05:37 PM

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"MaryL" wrote in message
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On 6/8/2015 2:12 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


Christina Websell wrote:

Jill has never had a cat with front claws before. Persia was declawed
before she got her. Which is not allowed here. Only America allows
declawing and it's time to say no.


I agree! I realized a long time ago, one can either have cats or nice
furniture, not both. (Unless the cats are not allowed in the house near
the furniture, which is no real solution.)


Actually, I have both. I have a number of scratching posts and two cat
trees that are beginning to get well-shredded. One chair has a number of
scratched areas. Other than that, my cats have not damaged the walls or
furniture. They have the run of the house and leave their fur everywhere,
but no damage. However, when it comes to a question of cats or furniture,
there is no doubt about it...my cats have absolute priority.

MaryL

Same here. Boyfie did once start to claw the arm of my expensive armchair
about "I told you it was teatime" when it wasn't but he doesn't do it now,
so yes, he's damaged my furniture. But I ask myself "if he was lying dead,
would I want him to come alive again or have a perfect chair?"
No contest.

Tweed





Christina Websell June 21st 15 06:01 PM

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"Rusty" wrote in message
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On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
So far she's ignoring the two scratching posts I bought for her.



I bought Boyfie a scratching post once. Total ignore mode. It might be
because he can exercise his claws on my trees. He's not interested in
jumping into the cardboard boxes I once got for him either. In fact he said
"why are the boxes in the house?" i said "I thought you might like them to
jump in and out of "
He sighed.
But he did find a bean I'd dropped when I was planting yesterday, and played
with it. It made him get the zoomies. Which is lovely as he's normally such
an earnest boy.

Tweed





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