"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message ...
GraceCat wrote:

I don't doubt with complications in days of old, women did suffer for
hours upon hours. But today it's so much easier on us as moms. They
really have made childbirth fairly easy.

I'm childless at the moment, so I'm curious....do they put you on tilt
tables fairly regularly now, so the pelvis is more open? I heard the only
reason women ever had babies on their backs in the first place is because
some pervy king wanted to watch, and that's why they ended up having to do
so many episiotomies over the years. I was under the impression that now
they often have women giving birth in a more natural crouched position. Is
this true?

Ann
just wondering



I never heard that . The bed I was in was a standard issue hospital
bed with the head tilted up and my legs bent, knees straight up and
spread as far as possible, feet in stirrups. Very unproper position,
dignity is swiftly removed.

I'm like Pam, I'm not an expert but I've always heard that
episiotomies were given because they believed it's better to cut than
to rip and repair. I had a fourth degree episiotomy the first time.
The second time I didn't even have a "carpet burn" as the doctor put
it. So the jury is out on if they're really necessary. I don't think
so, and certainly not to the extent my first OB gave me. A fourth
degree is well... ok hold on.

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They cut through the ummm.. I forgot what it's called between vagina
and anus, kind of making it one big opening. nod nod *plastered forced
grin*. Not everybody has something like that done. Yowie I'd ask your
attending person if they give episiotomies and strongly suggest a 4th
degree is unnecessary!. Apparently though through Victor, we're the
only ones (USA'ers) that are crazy fanatical about giving episiotomies
anymore. Victor said once to me, that none of his sisters nor his
mother had one. If I recall correctly that is.

So anyway, I babble again

Grace