Women and cats

I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

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No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us
before we eat.

I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

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No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to us
before we eat.

No but it might get you into one of the xtian death cult clubs, counting as
extra *brownie points*.

Fool.

YS



"Bob Chandler" wrote in message
m...
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message
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Logan Shaw wrote:
kilikini wrote:
"Sheena Weston" wrote in message
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Why is it that cats generally make better pets for women, where
dogs usually make better pets for men?

I don't know, I have both; two domestic shorthaired cats and a very
active
Australian Shepherd. What does that say about me?

You're obviously bisexual. Next question?

What about people with birds?
--scott

I used to have a pet alligator (well, actually a caiman) who ATE a
cat--Does that count?

bob


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No but it might get you into one of the xtian death cult clubs, counting as
extra *brownie points*.

Fool.

YS



"Bob Chandler" wrote in message
m...
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message
...
Logan Shaw wrote:
kilikini wrote:
"Sheena Weston" wrote in message
...

Why is it that cats generally make better pets for women, where
dogs usually make better pets for men?

I don't know, I have both; two domestic shorthaired cats and a very
active
Australian Shepherd. What does that say about me?

You're obviously bisexual. Next question?

What about people with birds?
--scott

I used to have a pet alligator (well, actually a caiman) who ATE a
cat--Does that count?

bob


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Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.

If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a
humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly,
with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of
Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use
violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws.

It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with
plagues, pestilence and catastrophe.

We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator
in all facets if life.


YS


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01...
I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

--
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"ys" wrote in message
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No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the
Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to
us
before we eat.





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Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.

If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a
humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully, lovingly,
with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of
Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use
violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws.

It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose with
plagues, pestilence and catastrophe.

We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the Creator
in all facets if life.


YS


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01...
I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"ys" wrote in message
hlink.net...

No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the
Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to
us
before we eat.





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Wait a minute, the Torah says that you can't spay or neuter your pets? Is
this true? Also, in what way is spaying or neutering violent? If a human
female has a hysterectomy, is that against the Torah or violent? I'm not
flaming you or anything, I'm just curious about your views.

Another point I want to make is that not every human being *will* step up to
the plate. Take my roommate for example. He has a dog and has never taken
her to the vet for any shots, heartworm prevention or flea or tick
prevention. The man has 4 children that he never sees. He's a waste of a
human being. I'm all for working on society, but there are just too many
lazy, irresponsible people out in the world to make exceptions. So, most of
us have to take it upon ourselves to neuter or spay our pets. I neutered my
male dog because my roommate refuses to spay his and we live in a small
apartment. Something had to give.

When *everyone* follows the *rules* - we'll talk. But that will probably be
way after our current lifetime.

kilikini

"ys" wrote in message
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Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.

If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a
humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully,
lovingly,
with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of
Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use
violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws.

It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose
with
plagues, pestilence and catastrophe.

We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the
Creator
in all facets if life.


YS


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01...
I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay
and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"ys" wrote in message
hlink.net...

No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the
Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to
us
before we eat.





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Wait a minute, the Torah says that you can't spay or neuter your pets? Is
this true? Also, in what way is spaying or neutering violent? If a human
female has a hysterectomy, is that against the Torah or violent? I'm not
flaming you or anything, I'm just curious about your views.

Another point I want to make is that not every human being *will* step up to
the plate. Take my roommate for example. He has a dog and has never taken
her to the vet for any shots, heartworm prevention or flea or tick
prevention. The man has 4 children that he never sees. He's a waste of a
human being. I'm all for working on society, but there are just too many
lazy, irresponsible people out in the world to make exceptions. So, most of
us have to take it upon ourselves to neuter or spay our pets. I neutered my
male dog because my roommate refuses to spay his and we live in a small
apartment. Something had to give.

When *everyone* follows the *rules* - we'll talk. But that will probably be
way after our current lifetime.

kilikini

"ys" wrote in message
ink.net...
Sorry. Our Torah says NO to mutilations. Specifically castration.

If every human being stepped up to the plate and took responsibility as a
humane human, doing our part in caring for these animals - fully,
lovingly,
with dedication - keeping them within bounds, within the framework of
Torah - the Blueprint for the Universe, there would be ZERO need to use
violence to control and manipulate nature and its laws.

It is PRECISELY when these laws are violated that all hell breaks loose
with
plagues, pestilence and catastrophe.

We must begin to do things the Right way, following the laws of the
Creator
in all facets if life.


YS


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
news:vU14c.1371$wg.1088@okepread01...
I agree on no declawing but no spaying or neutering? That is being
irresponsible if you ask me. Try using your religious lines in a shelter
that is overflowing with animals because either someone failed to spay
and
neuter their animal or simply dumped them there.

--
Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com
"ys" wrote in message
hlink.net...

No declawing, no neutering, no spaying - all totally against the
Creator's
wishes. What is expected from us as the stewards of this planet is be
humane, compassionate and caring enough to feed an animal entrusted to
us
before we eat.





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"kilikini" wrote in message
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So, in other words, if you spay or neuter your pet the pet would be
rejected
by God and would not make it into heaven? Am I understanding the belief
correctly?
kilikini
----------
Not exactly. Without getting into detail, we have 613 commandments. The
commandment regarding not spaying/neutering is just one of them. We are
judged on the big picture, the good is weighed against the bad. We are not
judged on just one thing. That having been said, religious Jews easily avoid
transgressing this commandment by adopting animals that have already been
spayed or neutered. That way, we are not adding to the animal overpopulation
problem, we are not transgressing a commandment, and we are hopefully
providing a nice home for an animal who needs one.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.

"kilikini" wrote in message
...

So, in other words, if you spay or neuter your pet the pet would be
rejected
by God and would not make it into heaven? Am I understanding the belief
correctly?
kilikini
----------
Not exactly. Without getting into detail, we have 613 commandments. The
commandment regarding not spaying/neutering is just one of them. We are
judged on the big picture, the good is weighed against the bad. We are not
judged on just one thing. That having been said, religious Jews easily avoid
transgressing this commandment by adopting animals that have already been
spayed or neutered. That way, we are not adding to the animal overpopulation
problem, we are not transgressing a commandment, and we are hopefully
providing a nice home for an animal who needs one.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.