Pouch foods

Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.
--
Paul O.
Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats
Learning more every day, but still clueless

"Paul O." wrote in message .com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Please be sure and check with your vet before you make
such a move. Managing and controlling renal failure requires very low
levels of phosphorus, sodium, and much elevated levels of N3 fatty
acids - none of which would be true of Nutro products. The Renal LP
product contains 0.14 mgs of phos per 100 grams. A typical Nutro
product might contain up to 10 times that amount.

"Paul O." wrote in message .com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Please be sure and check with your vet before you make
such a move. Managing and controlling renal failure requires very low
levels of phosphorus, sodium, and much elevated levels of N3 fatty
acids - none of which would be true of Nutro products. The Renal LP
product contains 0.14 mgs of phos per 100 grams. A typical Nutro
product might contain up to 10 times that amount.

(Steve Crane) wrote in message om...
"Paul O." wrote in message .com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Please be sure and check with your vet before you make
such a move. Managing and controlling renal failure requires very low
levels of phosphorus, sodium, and much elevated levels of N3 fatty
acids - none of which would be true of Nutro products. The Renal LP
product contains 0.14 mgs of phos per 100 grams. A typical Nutro
product might contain up to 10 times that amount.

We have a cat suffering from chronic renal failure ourselves, and if
you frequent any of the support groups for such kitties you will see
that what to feed them is a point of *high* controversy. Many people
feel that the prescription foods manufactured for CRF cats have too
little protein, too many grains and by-products to be truly healthy
for a cat.

In addition many CRF cats have a low to non-existant appetite. It is
believed that it is better for a cat to eat *something*, even if it is
not prescription food, than to eat nothing at all. And, many many CRF
cats hate the prescription food they're supposed to eat.

So, while I agree with your advice to check with the vet, in the end
each owner must sift through all the conflicting information out there
and make a decision which seems to fit their situation the best.

dragon

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"Paul O." wrote in message .com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Please be sure and check with your vet before you make
such a move. Managing and controlling renal failure requires very low
levels of phosphorus, sodium, and much elevated levels of N3 fatty
acids - none of which would be true of Nutro products. The Renal LP
product contains 0.14 mgs of phos per 100 grams. A typical Nutro
product might contain up to 10 times that amount.

We have a cat suffering from chronic renal failure ourselves, and if
you frequent any of the support groups for such kitties you will see
that what to feed them is a point of *high* controversy. Many people
feel that the prescription foods manufactured for CRF cats have too
little protein, too many grains and by-products to be truly healthy
for a cat.

In addition many CRF cats have a low to non-existant appetite. It is
believed that it is better for a cat to eat *something*, even if it is
not prescription food, than to eat nothing at all. And, many many CRF
cats hate the prescription food they're supposed to eat.

So, while I agree with your advice to check with the vet, in the end
each owner must sift through all the conflicting information out there
and make a decision which seems to fit their situation the best.

dragon

"Steve Crane" wrote in message
m...
"Paul O." wrote in message
.com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they
seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As
soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to
find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Snip, Snip

Thanks, will be sure to check on that. I don't believe it was renal failure,
but there was something with the liver that the vet said this would help.
Have a check up next month and will refresh my memory with him.
--
Paul O.
Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats
Learning more every day, but still clueless

"Steve Crane" wrote in message
m...
"Paul O." wrote in message
.com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they
seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As
soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to
find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Snip, Snip

Thanks, will be sure to check on that. I don't believe it was renal failure,
but there was something with the liver that the vet said this would help.
Have a check up next month and will refresh my memory with him.
--
Paul O.
Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats
Learning more every day, but still clueless

"Dragon" wrote in message
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(Steve Crane) wrote in message
om...
"Paul O." wrote in message
.com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they
seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As
soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to
find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just
one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Snip, Snip


We have a cat suffering from chronic renal failure ourselves, and if
you frequent any of the support groups for such kitties you will see
that what to feed them is a point of *high* controversy. Many people
feel that the prescription foods manufactured for CRF cats have too
little protein, too many grains and by-products to be truly healthy
for a cat.

In addition many CRF cats have a low to non-existant appetite. It is
believed that it is better for a cat to eat *something*, even if it is
not prescription food, than to eat nothing at all. And, many many CRF
cats hate the prescription food they're supposed to eat.


dragon

Our cat has learned to like the Renal LP with some boiled chicken mixed in
the wet food. Gradually putting in less and less chicken. Seems like
anything to do with foods has a high controversy. What he's eating now he's
doing real well on. Thanks.
--
Paul O.
Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats
Learning more every day, but still clueless

"Dragon" wrote in message
om...
(Steve Crane) wrote in message
om...
"Paul O." wrote in message
.com...
Our cat seems to prefer the pouch food, possibly I think, because they
seem
to have more juices and that seems to be what he goes after first. As
soon
as we can take him off the Waltham's Renal LP, a pouch food, I want to
find
some of the better brands that make a pouch. I've seen Nutro but just
one
flavor. Are there any others out there? Thanks.

Paul O,
I'm assuming your cat is on the Waltham R/C Renal LP due to renal
failure? If so moving over to a Nutro pouch would be a VERY VERY bag
thing to do. Snip, Snip


We have a cat suffering from chronic renal failure ourselves, and if
you frequent any of the support groups for such kitties you will see
that what to feed them is a point of *high* controversy. Many people
feel that the prescription foods manufactured for CRF cats have too
little protein, too many grains and by-products to be truly healthy
for a cat.

In addition many CRF cats have a low to non-existant appetite. It is
believed that it is better for a cat to eat *something*, even if it is
not prescription food, than to eat nothing at all. And, many many CRF
cats hate the prescription food they're supposed to eat.


dragon

Our cat has learned to like the Renal LP with some boiled chicken mixed in
the wet food. Gradually putting in less and less chicken. Seems like
anything to do with foods has a high controversy. What he's eating now he's
doing real well on. Thanks.
--
Paul O.
Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats
Learning more every day, but still clueless

(Dragon) wrote in message . com...

We have a cat suffering from chronic renal failure ourselves, and if
you frequent any of the support groups for such kitties you will see
that what to feed them is a point of *high* controversy. Many people
feel that the prescription foods manufactured for CRF cats have too
little protein, too many grains and by-products to be truly healthy
for a cat.

I would certainly agree that it is much more critical for a CRF cat to
eat than not to eat. While disagreement over grains etc may exist in
internet sites, there is no such disagreement in the scientific world.
There is not a single Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary
Nutrition nor of the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine
which supports the current carbophobic hypothesis in CRF cats. The
issue of excess phosphorus is totally undebateable by anyone in the
small animal clincial nutrition field. None of the renal failure
specialists and board certified internal medicine diplomates believe
otherwise. There is some debate over just how much protein should be
decreased and at what point the protein provided is sufficient. In the
case of the Nutro products the phos levels would be off the scale.