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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On Jun 1, 2:06 am, Charlie Wilkes
wrote: It didn't seem to bother the bird at all, and it hardly bled, but I caught hell from a couple of people in sci.ag.poultry for not using an anesthetic. Charlie I see, the toe was dead and had no feeling (specially with no blood) like cutting a callous off the foot. I am sure if you had cut him too deep he would have pecked your eyes |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On May 31, 6:32 pm, bookie wrote:
On 31 May, 19:35, Lis wrote: On May 30, 9:14 pm, bookie wrote: snip anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me Sweetie-pie, _some_ people have their cats declawed. It's controversial, most vets refuse to do it in most circumstances, humane societies and breeders generally include BOTH "must be an indoor cat only" and "must not be declawed" clauses in all adoption/purchase contracts. I have happy cats, that have all their claws, AND mostly undamaged furniture, because I've always provided appropriate scratching surfaces for my cats, and taught them where they are. As usual, when blathering on about the USA, you have no idea what you're talking about. Lis i said 'some' people, i didn't mean all. so i have no idea what I am talking about eh? so you are sayign that when i state that some people in the US have their cats declawed that I am wrong ? are you sayign that noone in the states gets their cat declawed?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, Bookie, you didn't say "some." You said: "anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me" You presented Americans as callous, furniture-obsessed monsters who all declaw our cats, in contrast to those decent human beings, the Brits, who would rather have their furniture wrecked. And you implied that all our cats are unhappy, too. You have wrecked furniture. I have intact furniture, AND happy cats, because I've provided appropriate, attractive-to-them places for them to climb and scratch and hide. Also toys for them to play with; they're not bored out of their minds with nothing better for them to do than wreck my furniture. I bet Sheelagh doesn't have wrecked furniture, either. Lis |
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On 1 Jun, 03:27, Charlie Wilkes
wrote: In article , says... "Matthew" wrote How does it feel bookie ;-) You are stepping up in the world I am not going to snip your response I really interested in the response. Can you tell I am bored ;-) You may be, but you cannot force me to read bookie. Killfiling Bookie & Sheelagh means passing up a lot of opportunities to stir the ****. Charlie He He He, that works both ways of course though, doesn't it Charlie? Far be it from me to mince my words..... I only ever **** stir on well ****ed off mode Well worth knowing mind you! S;o) |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On 1 Jun, 06:50, "Lilah Morgan" wrote:
Dammit accidentally hit send before I added that if there is another post where you did say some(for some reason sometimes posts don't show up. Usually mine, but they show the replies to it), then I apologize. "Lilah Morgan" wrote in message hlink.net... "bookie" wrote in message roups.com... so i have no idea what I am talking about eh? so you are sayign that when i state that some people in the US have their cats declawed that I am wrong ? are you sayign that noone in the states gets their cat declawed? You didn't say 'some' though, this was what you said: "anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - when i put 'you' i meant 'you the country' not 'you personally' I am not daft enough to say that you the indivdiual has declawed their cat cos I dontl knwo whether you have or not, i cannot remember whether certain individuals have or not, i dontl take that much notice bookie |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On 1 Jun, 07:06, Charlie Wilkes
wrote: In article 42, says... on Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:23:03 GMT, Charlie Wilkes wrote: My cat is slowly destroying my green leather barca loungers, which cost about $800 apiece... the most expensive furniture I own. I may declaw him myself, with angle cutters. you'll post photos, right? Sure. I actually have some experience in this area. A few years ago, I found myself nursing a rooster who had a terrible infection on his legs and feet. Scaly leg mites, it turned out to be. One of his toes was beyond saving, and it was curled around under the ball of his foot, causing him great pain every time he tried to put pressure on that foot. It was mostly bone with a thin covering of skin, so I lopped it off with a pair of angle cutters, and I posted a photo of the severed digit lying next to the cutters. It didn't seem to bother the bird at all, and it hardly bled, but I caught hell from a couple of people in sci.ag.poultry for not using an anesthetic. But I have run this by a couple of vets, and they both said that injecting the anesthetic would have caused more stress and discomfort than a quick, decisive amputation. As for Tweaker, my cat... I suppose I'd have to give him a shot of whisky at least. Another option would be to fit him out with a shock collar and zap him whenever he claws the barca lounger. BUT, I do think I have discouraged this behavior somewhat by simply clapping my hands and crying "NO!" when I see him do it. Also, the polished leather is not his favorite type of scratching material. He prefers the canvas on my futon-factory sofa, and that is a good piece of furniture for him to slowly destroy. Charlie you could always practise on yourself first to maek sure you get it right, you don't want damage your tools on the cat do you? |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On 1 Jun, 15:54, Lis wrote:
On May 31, 6:32 pm, bookie wrote: On 31 May, 19:35, Lis wrote: On May 30, 9:14 pm, bookie wrote: snip anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me Sweetie-pie, _some_ people have their cats declawed. It's controversial, most vets refuse to do it in most circumstances, humane societies and breeders generally include BOTH "must be an indoor cat only" and "must not be declawed" clauses in all adoption/purchase contracts. I have happy cats, that have all their claws, AND mostly undamaged furniture, because I've always provided appropriate scratching surfaces for my cats, and taught them where they are. As usual, when blathering on about the USA, you have no idea what you're talking about. Lis i said 'some' people, i didn't mean all. so i have no idea what I am talking about eh? so you are sayign that when i state that some people in the US have their cats declawed that I am wrong ? are you sayign that noone in the states gets their cat declawed?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, Bookie, you didn't say "some." You said: "anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me" You presented Americans as callous, furniture-obsessed monsters who all declaw our cats, in contrast to those decent human beings, the Brits, who would rather have their furniture wrecked. And you implied that all our cats are unhappy, too. You have wrecked furniture. I have intact furniture, AND happy cats, because I've provided appropriate, attractive-to-them places for them to climb and scratch and hide. Also toys for them to play with; they're not bored out of their minds with nothing better for them to do than wreck my furniture. I bet Sheelagh doesn't have wrecked furniture, either. Lis- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - and you have just implied that all my furniture is wrecked and I am not providing my cats with adequate means to sharpen their claws on or climb and hide and suchlike, and that they are both bored out of their minds and so wreck my furniture. considering that with our animal welfare law now you are pretty much accusing me of breaking the law and of being a criminal, I would be careful what you say now as it could well amount to defamation of character. Especially as what you may be implying about me personally is not true (but why let that small detail stop you) sure you want to go down that route? |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 05:13:44 GMT, "Lilah Morgan"
wrote: I thought the lady who sued McDonald's for getting her fat was bad, but my mom heard about this one gal who was driving down the road in her RV, and she had to go to the bathroom, so she puts the RV in cruise control, LEAVES THE WHEEL, and gets up to go to the bathroom. Of course the RV crashes. She's not seriously hurt, but she sues the RV manufacturer because they didn't say in the manual you can't leave the wheel unattended when it's in cruise control. If that's not bad enough, she WON the lawsuit. Snopes! http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp There are many version of that story to be found. |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On 2 Jun, 00:05, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 05:13:44 GMT, "Lilah Morgan" wrote: I thought the lady who sued McDonald's for getting her fat was bad, but my mom heard about this one gal who was driving down the road in her RV, and she had to go to the bathroom, so she puts the RV in cruise control, LEAVES THE WHEEL, and gets up to go to the bathroom. Of course the RV crashes. She's not seriously hurt, but she sues the RV manufacturer because they didn't say in the manual you can't leave the wheel unattended when it's in cruise control. If that's not bad enough, she WON the lawsuit. Snopes! http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp There are many version of that story to be found. i heard the one about the woman who bought a coffee from a McDonalds drive-thru, wedged it in between her legs to hold it as she drove off, and when she inevitably spilt it over her ample thighs she sued McDonalds for persoanl injury or something because of the massive scalding and burns to her legs and general 'lady area' she suffered as a result of her own stupidity. I think the lawyers claimed that she had no idea that the coffee was going to be so hot or something incredibly stupid like that. If someone tried that in this country it woudl be laughed out of court, if it even got that fair in the first place, any judge woudl just tell the silly old mare that she should not have been so damn stupid and what she did was her own damn fault. is it correct that you have the right to have any case heard in a court of law inthe US? regardless of how outlandish it actually is? something in your constitution or something, not sure about the veracity of that statement. |
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My cat had an accident - I'm sick with worry!
On 1 Jun, 19:03, bookie wrote:
On 1 Jun, 15:54, Lis wrote: On May 31, 6:32 pm, bookie wrote: On 31 May, 19:35, Lis wrote: On May 30, 9:14 pm, bookie wrote: snip anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me Sweetie-pie, _some_ people have their cats declawed. It's controversial, most vets refuse to do it in most circumstances, humane societies and breeders generally include BOTH "must be an indoor cat only" and "must not be declawed" clauses in all adoption/purchase contracts. I have happy cats, that have all their claws, AND mostly undamaged furniture, because I've always provided appropriate scratching surfaces for my cats, and taught them where they are. As usual, when blathering on about the USA, you have no idea what you're talking about. Lis i said 'some' people, i didn't mean all. so i have no idea what I am talking about eh? so you are sayign that when i state that some people in the US have their cats declawed that I am wrong ? are you sayign that noone in the states gets their cat declawed?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, Bookie, you didn't say "some." You said: "anyway think about the differences in attitudes between us; you have your cats declawed and have pristine furniture, we have lots of scratch marks all over our ancient tables and chairs and deal with it (and have happy cats as a result), says somethign about the different ways in which we look at our animasl for me" You presented Americans as callous, furniture-obsessed monsters who all declaw our cats, in contrast to those decent human beings, the Brits, who would rather have their furniture wrecked. And you implied that all our cats are unhappy, too. You have wrecked furniture. I have intact furniture, AND happy cats, because I've provided appropriate, attractive-to-them places for them to climb and scratch and hide. Also toys for them to play with; they're not bored out of their minds with nothing better for them to do than wreck my furniture. I bet Sheelagh doesn't have wrecked furniture, either. Lis- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - and you have just implied that all my furniture is wrecked and I am not providing my cats with adequate means to sharpen their claws on or climb and hide and suchlike, and that they are both bored out of their minds and so wreck my furniture. considering that with our animal welfare law now you are pretty much accusing me of breaking the law and of being a criminal, I would be careful what you say now as it could well amount to defamation of character. Especially as what you may be implying about me personally is not true (but why let that small detail stop you) sure you want to go down that route?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This is all going a little bit toooo Far. If you think I like the sound of my own voice-then you do. Who gives a monkeys? If the comment was intended to slight me, then it failed. I don't feel the need to do the same to you right now...... Just for the record, I could do with a new 3 piece because the cats have ravaged it in the side and on the arm too. I would love to say that was the cats wouldn't damage it, but it is not true. They have also scratched the hell out of my coffee table legs as well, but so what, I can replace them, where I can't replace them. To me, if you declaw your cat, it is cruel. I couldn't consider doing it, & that is the end of the matter. I don't care if they are chinese, Canadian or Brits, it is wrong-end of. OTOH, I do actively discourage it where possible, & I get quite peeved when they climb on the top in the kitchen;only one particular top, but It's a no no here. My plate & their feet don't mix...marlbes & jars work well here..... I don't think for one moment Bookie"intended" to slight anyone here, sometimes things just come across the wrong way, & I can see where it did here. Lis, I "know" she certainly didn't intend to provoke you.(or anyone else). It is out of hand, & we should know better than to attack one another in here. There are far more important things we could be talking about without giving in to what is clearly exactly what the trolls want. We are creating 7th heaven. how about we stop what we are doing & take a long hard think about what "could" happen here. I'm done with name calling. I'd much rather hear Matthews house Rules over again.. they were hilarious & I hope he shares them with us all. They were ever so good, but more to the point, so true, that you had to laugh when you got through them;o) I think we can do better than this...don't you? S;o) |
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