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Kreisleriana wrote:
Oh no!!! Yowie, once you start discussing the "A" and/or "AR" sound between Brits, Americans and Australians IN WRITING, you're really heading for the ditch!!! Reading this thread, I find myself wishing I knew how to write the phonetic alphabet on the keyboard, but OTOH, not everyone knows how to read that. There are at least three or four signs for different A sounds alone. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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"Marina" wrote in message ... wrote: Then there's the word "haaahht". What does it mean? Depends where you are. In the Midwest US states, it refers to a high temperature. In New England, it refers to the muscle that pumps blood through your body. So how do people in the Midwest pronounce heart? I never realised it could be pronounced any other way. I've probably heard it in films, but haven't realised. For a non-native speaker, the accents are easier to understand, it seems. A co-worker of mine is married to an American lady, and he told us that one time, they were travelling in some part of the US where the wife had a hard time understanding what the natives said, while this Finnish guy had no problems. There are accents and then there are *accents* and for me personally, some accents are less understandable than others. I have a lot less trouble with New England and Midwestern speech than I do with Southern accents, especially deep Southern. I recently saw a documentary about the Mississippi delta, and I was just floored. I couldn't understand people at all, especially the older ones. I have a friend in Texas whom I sometimes can't understand either. What's interesting in New York is something outsiders might not recognize-- I think we all sound the same to them. But while most of us born here have some flavor of "Noo Yawk" accent, the strongest ones belong to the suburbs. People out on Long Island and in some parts of Jersey like a fifties gangster movie. I guess it's because at a historical moment when what we call the New York accent was really strong and flourishing, they took themselves away and isolated themselves geographically. Now in the city itself, people keep coming from all over to live here, but few people come from the Midwest to live out on Long Island. So the accent remains relatively undiluted. You see a similar thing up in Red Sawx Nation, I think. -- Theresa, Stinky and Dante drtmuirATearthlink.net Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh |
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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... (snip) What's interesting in New York is something outsiders might not recognize-- I think we all sound the same to them. But while most of us born here have some flavor of "Noo Yawk" accent, the strongest ones belong to the suburbs. People out on Long Island and in some parts of Jersey like a fifties gangster movie. Eeek, I meant they SOUND like a fifties gangster movie. Little fourteen-year-old girls sound just like my late grandfathers. -- Theresa, Stinky and Dante drtmuirATearthlink.net Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh |
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On Jun 15, 2:03�pm, wrote:
Sherry wrote: � Oh no!!! Yowie, once you start discussing the "A" and/or "AR" sound between � Brits, Americans and Australians IN WRITING, you're really heading for the � ditch!!! � � Theresa, Stinky and Dante � Heh. My very good friend and I from Long Island practically had to � have an interpreter :-) And there is such a variance just from state to � state, even here! Duke is definitely "Dook" here. � One particular word I ended up having to spell for her, she could not � understand me. It was "Hallmark." �New Yorkers and Okies prounounce � that word completely different. Then there's the word "haaahht". What does it mean? Depends where you are. In the Midwest US states, it refers to a high temperature. In New England, it refers to the muscle that pumps blood through your body. -- Joyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. �^..^ ================================================== == LOL, I'm no longer a Midwesterner (raised in Mich), when I saw Haaahht I thought heart, not hot. Suz&Spicey |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... On Jun 16, 6:54 am, "Kreisleriana" wrote: "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... (snip) What's interesting in New York is something outsiders might not recognize-- I think we all sound the same to them. But while most of us born here have some flavor of "Noo Yawk" accent, the strongest ones belong to the suburbs. People out on Long Island and in some parts of Jersey like a fifties gangster movie. Eeek, I meant they SOUND like a fifties gangster movie. Little fourteen-year-old girls sound just like my late grandfathers. -- Theresa, Stinky and Dante drtmuirATearthlink.net Stinky Pictures:http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Yeah, I hear you. Last night watched a Law & Order episode about a cat burglar who stole only antique silverware, one of my interests, and at the end, when it was revealed who the murderer was, I could not make out a word the murderer was screaming -- a female - in a total Jersey mode. OTOH, no, in spite of what is said in south FL, you New Yorkers do not all sound alike. My SIL is a native of Finger Lakes region, near Rochester, and several friends of mine from Rochester and she sound nothing like NYC New York. Oh, that's UPSTATE!!! It's TOTALLY DIFFERENT-- as they would be the first to tell you. Like another country-- another planet. Different in every way. I'm sure it's annoying to Upstaters, but when people talk about a "New York Accent," they mean the New York City metro area speech pattern. People in West New York, like Rochester talk much more like people in Pennsylvania and Ohio, whom they are also closer to geographically. Down here, we call Rochester "Ratchester," because that's how it sounds to us when Rochster natives say it. -- Theresa, Stinky and Dante drtmuirATearthlink.net Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh It isn't just you, though, LOL....i have Cajun cousins in the delta of Louisiana who I have to be around for a few days before we are able to communicate with each other, in spite of being glad to see each other again when we get together....our friend Catnipped understands Cajuns, I believe. Tough, resourceful people living simple, fulfilling lives, virtually isolated by preference, and some of the best-looking men I ever set eyes on.....nothing changes much down there. |
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I was watching Oceans Eleven last night (droll movie BTW) and George Clooney
was in it, so Duke can be pronounced like CLOONEY That make any sense? Hug Kyla --actually gonna venture outside today "Jofirey" "Kreisleriana" .... Heh. My very good friend and I from Long Island practically had to have an interpreter :-) And there is such a variance just from state to state, even here! Duke is definitely "Dook" here. One particular word I ended up having to spell for her, she could not understand me. It was "Hallmark." New Yorkers and Okies prounounce that word completely different. Sherry I'm sure. And Long Islanders, in my experience, have the *most pronounced* Noo Yawk accents. They have the really big "Brooklyn" or "Bronx" accents you hear in old movies. They sound more New York than we do (inside the actual city). A lifetime ago, I remember standing in line to register for classes at American University in Washington DC. I'm a DC native, but apparently it is one of the schools to go to if you went to high school on Long Island. These kids were standing around me, and getting to know one another. I swear to you they could tell which high school someone had attended by their accent. Jo |
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"Marina" ... bastXXXette Then there's the word "haaahht". What does it mean? Depends where you are. In the Midwest US states, it refers to a high temperature. In New England, it refers to the muscle that pumps blood through your body. So how do people in the Midwest pronounce heart? I never realised it could be pronounced any other way. I've probably heard it in films, but haven't realised. For a non-native speaker, the accents are easier to understand, it seems. A co-worker of mine is married to an American lady, and he told us that one time, they were travelling in some part of the US where the wife had a hard time understanding what the natives said, while this Finnish guy had no problems. Of course we get lots of US TV shows, films and music here, but I think of the language in them as mostly 'neutral' American English. No pronounced accent, except if the character is a specific type; the Brooklyn cab driver, the southern lady, etc. Most of the cabbies here wear turbans. And chat in their native tongue on their cell phones. It's been a long time since I took a taxi cab, however. Hug Kyla Hug Kyla -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Kyla =^. .^=` wrote:
Marina wrote: Of course we get lots of US TV shows, films and music here, but I think of the language in them as mostly 'neutral' American English. No pronounced accent, except if the character is a specific type; the Brooklyn cab driver, the southern lady, etc. Most of the cabbies here wear turbans. And chat in their native tongue on their cell phones. Good point. I think the image of New York cabbies all sounding like Robert De Niro is out of date nowadays. -- Joyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ |
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