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Cat Pregnancy Questions?
On Aug 14, 1:59 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
You can set humane traps that will trap the feral cat when she comes to eat. Then you can bring her to the vet where they will tranquilizer her and spay her. Then you can bring her back and let her go, and she won't have any more kittens....Also, she is likely to stick around your place (or wherever the food is best) and become domesticated....... I've thought about doing that, but I'd be afraid she'd never show at my door again. In fact, I'm not even sure it would work - she's been incredibly canny (or incredibly lucky) when it comes to the animal control cages around the neighborhood at various times. It's certainly something to think about though - thanks! Actually, if I do anything, it'll be that, if I can find a sympathetic vet. Skye |
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On Aug 14, 3:13 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
Errrrrr......I don't want to start a flame war here, but you might just put a teensy weensy bit of the blame on God, don't you think? - After all, literally millions of cute furry little animals die of starvation, thirst and the cold every year, and there isn't a damn thing any of us can do about it........I often wonder how well He sleeps at night...... Sometimes I feel the same way, these are bad endings for innocent creatures, but here's a thought, William . . . Would you *really* want to be vying for elbow room with dogs, bears, rabbits, etc, etc.? Sharing diseases? Can you imagine the humongous abuse rate, the hunting and killing for sport? I think nature knows what it's doing. We may not like some aspects of it (for example, I don't especially care about the fact that everything dies at all, including us), but it IS beautiful in it's own way. And as far as God is concerned, She set all this in motion and probably sleeps just fine. :-) Skye |
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On Aug 14, 3:38 pm, "Rene S." wrote:
Since she is a feral, you could also call your local animal shelter to see if they will offer assistance. Some have TNR (trap, neuter, release) programs or offer low-cost spays. Many will also loan you a humane trap. Our animal shelter does not offer a TNR program or any low cost spays. They might offer a trap, though. Unfortunately, by asking these questions you have stumbled onto one of the hot topics on this forum. Almost all of us regulars here _strongly_ believe in spaying and neutering, both for the prevention of unwanted/unneeded litters but also for the overall health and well being of the animal. Spaying will prevent certain types of cancers and eliminate many unwanted behaviors (coming into heat, caterwauling, spraying). With the millions of animals that are euthanized each year, it's hard *not* to be an advocate of spaying. I asked my questions with the only objective of getting information. With no disrespect intended, I for some reason just don't care about posters' opinions, approval, or disapproval. They don't know me or my situations. I *tried* to care about an hour ago, but I just can't. I mean, no offense, but you all are faceless, anonymous Usenet users - I don't understand how to care about that. And I can't believe anyone cares that much about what I do. They have to jump on and lecture every time someone posts anything with the words "pregnant" and "cat" in it, so that it makes THEM feel like they have some purpose in life. It's ridiculous. I do care that some of the posters took the time and trouble to respond with some constructive information. THOSE are the ones I hear. Skye |
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Cat Pregnancy Questions?
"Skye" wrote in message ps.com... On Aug 14, 3:38 pm, "Rene S." wrote: Since she is a feral, you could also call your local animal shelter to see if they will offer assistance. Some have TNR (trap, neuter, release) programs or offer low-cost spays. Many will also loan you a humane trap. Our animal shelter does not offer a TNR program or any low cost spays. They might offer a trap, though. Unfortunately, by asking these questions you have stumbled onto one of the hot topics on this forum. Almost all of us regulars here _strongly_ believe in spaying and neutering, both for the prevention of unwanted/unneeded litters but also for the overall health and well being of the animal. Spaying will prevent certain types of cancers and eliminate many unwanted behaviors (coming into heat, caterwauling, spraying). With the millions of animals that are euthanized each year, it's hard *not* to be an advocate of spaying. I asked my questions with the only objective of getting information. With no disrespect intended, I for some reason just don't care about posters' opinions, approval, or disapproval. They don't know me or my situations. I *tried* to care about an hour ago, but I just can't. I mean, no offense, but you all are faceless, anonymous Usenet users - I don't understand how to care about that. And I can't believe anyone cares that much about what I do. They have to jump on and lecture every time someone posts anything with the words "pregnant" and "cat" in it, so that it makes THEM feel like they have some purpose in life. It's ridiculous. I do care that some of the posters took the time and trouble to respond with some constructive information. THOSE are the ones I hear. Skye With the exception of a few trolls, everyone here has one thing in common....We all love cats and hate to see anything bad happen to them. Anytime you ask strangers for an opinion, you are risking getting bad advice.....the question I have is: Why did you post here in the first place? |
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"Skye" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 14, 1:59 pm, "William Graham" wrote: You can set humane traps that will trap the feral cat when she comes to eat. Then you can bring her to the vet where they will tranquilizer her and spay her. Then you can bring her back and let her go, and she won't have any more kittens....Also, she is likely to stick around your place (or wherever the food is best) and become domesticated....... I've thought about doing that, but I'd be afraid she'd never show at my door again. In fact, I'm not even sure it would work - she's been incredibly canny (or incredibly lucky) when it comes to the animal control cages around the neighborhood at various times. It's certainly something to think about though - thanks! Actually, if I do anything, it'll be that, if I can find a sympathetic vet. Skye I have had this problem in the past, and what I did was trap the cat, and then call a friend of mine to pick it up (in the trap) and bring it to the vet. Then, I picked it up at the vet the next day, and brought it home and let it go.....The cat didn't connect me with its experience.....Probably thought of me as the one who rescued it from that terrible place. (The vet:^) |
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"Skye" wrote in message ps.com... I *tried* to care about an hour ago, but I just can't. I mean, no offense, but you all are faceless, anonymous Usenet users As are you. - I don't understand how to care about that. And I can't believe anyone cares that much about what I do. They have to jump on and lecture every time someone posts anything with the words "pregnant" and "cat" in it, so that it makes THEM feel like they have some purpose in life. It's ridiculous. Is that so? Well, looks like you have us all figured out. Do you have a purpose in life other than breeding cats and posting questions to strangers on Usenet? Best regards, ---Cindy S. I do care that some of the posters took the time and trouble to respond with some constructive information. THOSE are the ones I hear. Skye |
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"Skye" wrote in message s.com... On Aug 14, 9:43 am, "cindys" wrote: "Skye" wrote: 1. Generally speaking, how old can a queen be and still be going into heat and producing offspring? In other words, please God, is there such a thing as feline menopause??? :-/ Yes. It's called a "spay." I'm glad your life is so well-ordered and nothing ever gets out of your control once in a while. However, please realize that's not the case with everyone in the world, mkay? The older cat is a feral cat who I've been feeding for the last two years, but has hung around this neighborhood for at least 10. I've somehow grown attached, even though she is wild. She will not come to me nor allow me to so much as touch her. You tell me how to get her to the vet, Cindy S., ok? You buy or borrow (rescue groups and shelters sometimes lend traps - ask them) a humane trap. If you've been feeding this cat anyway it should be quite easy to trap her. Check with the rescue groups for recommendations for low-cost spay neuter locations where they will do feral cats. Make an appointment. The day of or the night before the appointment, put some good smelly wet food in the back of the trap and set it shortly before the time that the cat usually shows up to eat. Then wait in an out of sight but not out of hearing place for the unique sound of a trap tripping. Cover trap with a large towel and take the cat in the trap to the vet for her spay. If it's the night before, place a large plastic bag on the floor of a garage or similar place. Put a thick layer of newspaper on the plastic bag and then set the trap on them. The cat will be fine in a covered trap overnight. Last summer, some of the neighbors tried to get rid of her. They did manage to catch her kittens and most of them were put to sleep. This summer, we've managed to get the kittens before they were found, but we had to pull off commando-type raids under cat-hating neighbors porches to do it. She seems to be safe and stays under the radar all the rest of the year. I simply wondered how many more summers I could look forward to worrying about this. Or do you just think I should stop feeding her? I mean, what gives with your attitude??? If you aren't willing to get her spayed, you are doing more harm than good by feeding her. You are keeping her healthy enough to continue reproducing kittens when there are already too many kittens to ever possibly home. You basically are facilitating the birth of kittens so that they or others like them will have to be put to death. I know people mean well when they start feeding strays but the truth is that it's better not to and just let nature take it's course unless you're willing to commit to doing it right and spay/neuter the cat. 2. I've got another younger cat, first time queen, shows all the symptoms of pregnancy - more than a month along. However, every few days, she's spotting blood from the vulva. Not much though, and otherwise she acts fine. Is this normal, or should I be contacting the vet? You should be contacting the vet about having her spayed. Why are you allowing your cats to breed? This cat is my indoor, well-cared-for, beautiful, loved cat. Yes, I wanted her to have kittens. OMG! I'm guilty! Shoot me, but not the cat! Seriously, I'm not sure since 9/11/2001, but I THINK America is still free enough that if you want your cat to breed, you are allowed to do so. Unless there's some law I'm not aware of (under Homeland Security, maybe?). I don't even think you have to ask permission from, well, ANYBODY. Lol. Well, thank you for your, um, help and info, Cindy S. I can assure you, the world is a much safer and better place. You can sleep well tonight. Skye People tend to get a little bent out of shape with people who are willfully adding to the cat over-population problem. I volunteer for a cat rescue group. We do adoptions from a Pet Smart store on Saturdays. Last weekend we had a man bring us a kitten who was obviously on death's door. It appeared to have injested some type of poison and was having convultions. It was beyond helping so one of our volunteers took the kitten to the local SPCA to get it euthanized. When she arrived there the person at the shelter told her they couldn't help us because they didn't have room. Our volunteer told them that we weren't asking them to take the cat and house it but to put it out of it's misery. The shelter person again said they didn't have room. When it became obvious that they were miscommunicating the shelter person clarified that they didn't have any room in their FREEZER where they keep the euthanized animals until they can be cremated. She said that they couldn't fit a hampster in the freezer if they had to. THAT'S how many unwanted animals there are out there. And THAT'S why people tend to get a little short with someone who is exacerbating the problem. W |
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Cat Pregnancy Questions?
On Aug 14, 7:57 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
With the exception of a few trolls, everyone here has one thing in common....We all love cats and hate to see anything bad happen to them. Apparently, that's not entirely true. There are evidently some in here who think it's best to just let stray cats and dogs starve. THAT can't be good. Anytime you ask strangers for an opinion, which I *didn't* you are risking getting bad advice.....the question I have is: Why did you post here in the first place? For information: 1. To find out if there is an age at which a female cat might stop breeding naturally. 2. To find out if my pregnant cat was medically in danger. To my knowledge, only 1 person attempted to specifically answered both questions. The rest is just rabid, nutty farting in the wind to me - with the exception of your advice of trapping the older cat. When I was having trouble with my car, I posted my problem to some car newsgroups asking for information. I received 12 responses packed full of info so that I was able to get my car fixed quickly. There were no opinions - no one accused me of letting my car get in disrepair or putting pollution into the air by driving a car, no judgmental attitudes at all. I simply received information that I needed. However, to be honest, I haven't posted on Usenet for a long time and I've forgotten how vicious and pompously superior people can act here when they know they're anonymous. All you can do is killfile some, ignore others, and pick the most constructive ones out of the mess. Skye |
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On Aug 15, 7:52 am, "Wendy" wrote:
If you aren't willing to get her spayed, Which I never said I wasn't willing, but ya'll assumed... you are doing more harm than good by feeding her. You are keeping her healthy enough to continue reproducing kittens when there are already too many kittens to ever possibly home. You basically are facilitating the birth of kittens so that they or others like them will have to be put to death. I know people mean well when they start feeding strays but the truth is that it's better not to and just let nature take it's course unless you're willing to commit to doing it right and spay/neuter the cat. Oh for God's sakes, I would NEVER start feeding a cat or dog just to quit when it becomes inconvenient for me. THAT's one of MY pet peeves - people who do that or take on pets just to dump them when they get tired of them or they don't like them. And I know it happens a lot. So forget it - not even up for discussion. But thanks for reminding me there's people like you who do that and/or advocate it. It's sick. :-/ Or that I should have ignored her 2 years ago when she was stumbling around broken, starving, and skeletal. I DID try for about 8 years, but come on now. Every animal lover has their limit, and actually, I don't regret starting it one bit. Truth is, this is the first cat I've ever "had" that I couldn't win over, and I'm not comfortable with that fact. I didn't know at the beginning she wouldn't warm up to me, now did I? But just because she's like that, doesn't mean I'm gonna discard her like a soiled tissue now. For anyone else who's reading this: don't take on a dog, cat, rabbit, gerbil, ferret, etc., unless you know beyond a shadow of a doubt you're willing to stand by and take care of it for the rest of it's life. If you don't think you're up to it or mature enough or are too fickle in your relationships, simply DON'T DO IT to begin with. End of story. And that goes for feeding strays too. Even if there's a risk you might not be able to spay it or make a true "pet" out of it. Once you start, it's yours. Jeesh. THAT'S why people tend to get a little short with someone who is exacerbating the problem. Oh, go pick on someone who deserves it. Surely, you can find someone out of all the pet-dumpers, animal abusers, people who REGULARLY don't get their pets spayed or neutered, people who don't CARE about euthanized animals, etc., etc. Hey, I'll even join you for that. Skye |
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"Skye" wrote in message ps.com... However, to be honest, I haven't posted on Usenet for a long time and I've forgotten how vicious and pompously superior people can act here when they know they're anonymous. ----- With all due respect, you could easily be describing your own behavior on this newsgroup. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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