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"kaeli" wrote Oh, they don't eat it all. I just don't like to store wet food in the fridge and then have to heat it. So they share one in the morning and one in the evening, but they rarely finish it all. So, they each get about a half a can a day plus a little dry. The "recommended serving" on the cans says a can per day per 8 pound cat. The cans are, IIRC, somewhere around 5 oz. The cans range from 40 cents to $1 each, depending on what kind I buy. I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them. My girls share a 3-oz can and don't finish it, then they get dry, Boo half a cup a day and Cheeks the skinny one as much as she wants. I wonder how Boo can be so fat? It is worrisome as she is getting bigger now that her hyperthyroid is regulated. She should weigh about 8 pounds and she weighed 13.5 at her last checkup. Not good. (But I didn't do it to her! Her first owner delivered her that way.) (...) So if the good quality dry is just as good or better than the lower quality wet, I'd be more than happy to let them have it. I guess the problem is that if don't know whether your cats are especially susceptible to urinary nastyness, then you don't know whether it's best to err on the side of water intake (****ty wet food) versus generally better nutritional profile (quality dry). I know. I worry most about Rowan and Jeffrey. Rowan, because she's always been a little sickly and she gets dehydrated very quickly and Jeffrey b/c he's a boy. Isis always seems well-hydrated. They all drink ample water. I think what I'm going to do is give them whatever wet they like the most in the morning and late afternoon and leave them a half-cup of their higher- quality dry to share overnight. -- -- ~kaeli~ Quantum Express: When you absolutely, positively, don't know where it's going or when it needs to be there. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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"kaeli" wrote Oh, they don't eat it all. I just don't like to store wet food in the fridge and then have to heat it. So they share one in the morning and one in the evening, but they rarely finish it all. So, they each get about a half a can a day plus a little dry. The "recommended serving" on the cans says a can per day per 8 pound cat. The cans are, IIRC, somewhere around 5 oz. The cans range from 40 cents to $1 each, depending on what kind I buy. I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them. My girls share a 3-oz can and don't finish it, then they get dry, Boo half a cup a day and Cheeks the skinny one as much as she wants. I wonder how Boo can be so fat? It is worrisome as she is getting bigger now that her hyperthyroid is regulated. She should weigh about 8 pounds and she weighed 13.5 at her last checkup. Not good. (But I didn't do it to her! Her first owner delivered her that way.) (...) So if the good quality dry is just as good or better than the lower quality wet, I'd be more than happy to let them have it. I guess the problem is that if don't know whether your cats are especially susceptible to urinary nastyness, then you don't know whether it's best to err on the side of water intake (****ty wet food) versus generally better nutritional profile (quality dry). I know. I worry most about Rowan and Jeffrey. Rowan, because she's always been a little sickly and she gets dehydrated very quickly and Jeffrey b/c he's a boy. Isis always seems well-hydrated. They all drink ample water. I think what I'm going to do is give them whatever wet they like the most in the morning and late afternoon and leave them a half-cup of their higher- quality dry to share overnight. -- -- ~kaeli~ Quantum Express: When you absolutely, positively, don't know where it's going or when it needs to be there. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them. An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good quality foods. You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them. An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good quality foods. You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them. An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good quality foods. You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html Thanks! I wish cat foods had lables like human foods that had calorie and nutrition content right on there. This would be a lot easier. Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like. This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do you think? -- -- ~kaeli~ You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them. An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good quality foods. You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html Thanks! I wish cat foods had lables like human foods that had calorie and nutrition content right on there. This would be a lot easier. Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like. This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do you think? -- -- ~kaeli~ You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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Kaeli wrote:
Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like. This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do you think? If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats. It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Kaeli wrote:
Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like. This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do you think? If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats. It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats. It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful. Thanks. I think we're going to go with a variety of wet food in the morning and afternoon and leave them some dry overnight. Hopefully over time they'll learn to like the better quality wet, but in the meantime, I want them to get good nutrition, so I'll let them have some dry. Plus, I think it's good for them to have to chew once in a while. *G* They can get the water content of the wet and the nutrition of the dry for now. I sure wish I could talk to them and bribe them with treats for eating the good stuff. *smiles* You know, why is it the higher-quality wet looks like paste and the lower- quality wet is all full of gravy and looks almost good enough for me to eat? Well, not really, but you know what I mean. *heh* No wonder they prefer the Fancy Feast. The good stuff sure doesn't look very good, and it doesn't smell very good, either. If I were a cat, I'd probably refuse to eat it, too. -- -- ~kaeli~ The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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