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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
On Sep 12, 4:44*am, Jack Campin - bogus address
wrote: One I used in Romania last year: http://www.campin.me.uk/Travel/Roman...hoolToilet.jpg You used that! One look at it and I would have developed severe constipation for a month! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
MatSav wrote:
"Yowie" wrote in message ... "MLB" wrote in message Yowie wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message OMG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQbHS4YJOMc&NR=1 Amazing! BTW - there was a aweful lot of water in that pan. Is that normal? Yowie When ou said "pan" did you mean the toilet? If so, the answer is yes. MLB Pan= where the business goes. Bowl= the ceramic part Cistern= the water storage & delivery system Toilet= the whole structure There's only a small amount of water, right down the bottom of our toilets. Maybe less risk of splashback? Toilets are fascinating pieces of engineering, and the different designs around the world can be somewhat confusing. The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? If you're seriously (or strangely?) interested in this, and I don't mean in a perverse way, there's the wonderful http://www.poopreport.com I know I am in good company when I consider the flush toilet as one of the freatest inventions. MLB |
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MatSav wrote:
The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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On Sep 12, 9:37*am, Marina wrote:
Afraid I've had the same experience in England. Yep water pressure over here isn't always that good- when I put our shower on it has to be full blast just to get a decent spray because ours is just attached to the main water supply. Most showers have accessory pumps to boost the water pressure Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
Marina kirjoitti:
MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. :P What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England. Just checked from the German Wiki on toilets, the shelf version (Flachspüler) was more common before the 90's. And as I graduated in -82, and bro studied in Augsburg in the 80's too, we still remember the shelf version vividly. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilette -- Christine in Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com |
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Cheryl wrote:
MatSav wrote: Toilets are fascinating pieces of engineering, and the different designs around the world can be somewhat confusing. The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap. Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? Because things being natural and done by everyone isn't automatically connected with either doing it privately or the location of public toilets? I've always thought that the older the building, the more likely it was that indoor toilets were added as an afterthought, whereever they could be squeezed in. I'd expect that to have happened more often in the UK than in North America, although I well remember a building I attended a couple of dances in. It was originally built in the 1800s for one of those men-only fraternal organizations that eventually sold it in order to buy something cheaper and easier to maintain. During the last of their reign and under the new owners, the place was rented out for dances (among other events), since although shabby, it had a large room with a hardwood floor plus a bar. The mens' toilet was in a sensible and accessible place on the main floor. The womens' toilet, clearly an afterthought, was in the basement, down a long flight of stairs and along a corridor. Some European homes I've been in had the toilet and bathtub in different rooms, which was rather odd to my eyes! I have never really adjusted to the hole-in-the-floor type, no matter how often I'm told that it's more natural to crouch down instead of sitting, and that they're as clean as any other (when in private homes, not necessarily in public locations, but we all know not all public toilets are clean), and they use less water so are more environmentally sensitive. My knees just don't take a lot of bending, and I really think that if you want to keep them clean, you need to practice your aim. Of course, that's true for sit-down toilets, too. Especially for men. Memory from long ago: In the "old days" a builder would build a second house in the lot behind the first house. While water might have bee piped in for household use, there would be no toilet. The front house would have a toilet room outside on the back of the house. People in the second house would use a "chamber pot" at night which they would have to empty in the morning. one of the big problems was in winter the pipes could freeze. I also remember our elementary school had an outside toilet at the back of the building. As a kid, I tried to use it once -- no deal, it was filthy Today most new houses here have multiple bathrooms and stores have very nice, clean facilities. MLB |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
On Sep 12, 10:11*am, MLB wrote:
.. one of the big problems was in winter the pipes could freeze. * Don't remind me! The first 2 years we lived here the housing had not lagged the water pipes coming into the building properly and didn't seem too concerned about this but we certainly were! For a week or three (the second time) we had no water coming in for the kitchen and bathroom and were grateful that 1. When we moved we had brought those 40 gallon bins from when we tried to make some home brew and 2. There was a garage opposite that allowed us to fill them up We had a few nights out that started with one of us saying they had to go to the pub because they needed to....sugar if you get my drift and would rather use a loo where you could flush from the cistern rather than having to empty a few gallons of our hard carried water down the loo Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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Cat Using toilet and toilet paper
"moonglow minnow" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: I should give away the two sacks of litter that I have, too. Come to terms that I do not need it now. The moment you do, you'll have a "visitor" that prefers the indoor facilities to outside. LOL! That would be just my luck. I don't think so though. This is a great place for kitties to wander, hardly any traffic at the front of the house and acres behind to look at mice and rats around the chicken huts. Kitty FC only started using litter boxes when she forgot about outside in her old age. I set two up, one upstairs and one downstairs when she started peeing and pooing on the carpets and she used them faithfully after that. I still have one litter box downstairs. Boyfie says he'd rather die than pee or poo in the house. Tweed P.S. I know where he goes.. he poos in my compost heap and wees on my neighbours path which is covered with leaves, both a hundred yards away. He doesn't know that I know |
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"Marina" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: I I know it's possible to train indoor cats to pee/poo in the toilet (they do not flush, leading to embarrassment if a visiting friend needs to use your facilities) Caliban often flushes my toilet, because it is flushed by a button on the tank, and he often waltzes around there and accidentally steps on the button. The weirdest thing is when he steps on the button while I'm using the 'throne'. Unfortunately, he hasn't taken to using the toilet instead of the litter box. My sister's cat, Linus, did learn to use the toilet, just by watching my sister. Really? What a clever boy. I understood it was quite a long process to train a cat to use the toilet using a litter box on the seat and going from there. Tweed |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
Cheryl wrote:
Some European homes I've been in had the toilet and bathtub in different rooms, which was rather odd to my eyes! My home is like that, but the rooms are immediately adjacent to each other. How else would you wash your hands after using the "smallest room"? (It does mean, of course, that door handles need more cleaning than they would if the toilet and tub / shower were in the same room). -- MatSav |
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