Cat Using toilet and toilet paper

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think the reason for the separate room for the toilet may be
due to
the fact that it was a later addition, in many Victorian homes -
the may
"bathroom" may have originally been set aside for the purpose,
before
running water was installed. The toilet was referred to as a
"water
closet" because the room in which it was installed originally
WAS a closet.

And indeed it was - and still is. I'm thinking of two places where
friends of mine have lived. In both cases, the "wc" would make a
small
or average-sized closet for clothes. They wouldn't be fun places
for
claustrophobics.

Joyce

Funny how what was old is new again. In an effort to make the
'master bath' in my daughters three year old house more classy, the
toilet itself is in what is essentially a closet off the room with
the shower and huge tub and double sinks etc. Personally I think
the architect underestimated the amount of room needed to set aside
for a toilet with the door closed. I thought our toilet/shower off
out bedroom was tiny!

Jo

Adrian wrote:
Yowie wrote:
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MatSav wrote:

Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily
function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and
in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as
nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we
have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our
'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of
public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be
hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it?
I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself -
but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden
to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination -
"Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so
discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom".
I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom".
Oh, really?
Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is
that about?
For a while when we were desperately trying to get Cary out of nappies
(diapers), we had to rush into the toilet, inspect his efforts and
praise him profusely for it. I mean, what do you say about the stuff?
We had to go into some detail about the particular individual nature
of each session, and thus made a straw for our own backs. After
finally getting him to poop confidently in the toilet, we then had to
train Cary *not* to give us a running commentary about his bowel
activities even though we'd made a big fuss just months earlier

We're still arguing over who has to do the wiping.

Kinda reminds me of the time when some girlfriends of mine got
togetherover lunch. All bar one of us have kids, and they're all
roughly of the same age too. We're in the middle of eating and
chatting about our lives, and the topic, as it usually does, turns to
our precious children, and one of my friends was complaining about
her own son just not 'getting' toilet training. The rest of us chip
in, and we all find ourselves having a lively discussion about poo as
we're happily chowing down. Except of course the one who hasn't had
kids yet (nor a litterbox), and she was looking rather..... green.
For the rest of us, dealing with other people's poo is such a normal
every day affair it had simply become a fact of life, and we had
forgotten that other people have certain sensitivities to the
subject, *especially* whilst eating.
Yowie

10 years ago I was asked by a three year old girl "does your mother wipe
your bottom?" :-)




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MLB

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:12:16 +0000, ScratchMonkey wrote:

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It's funny that your mom thought "toilet" was a naughty word - that
word was itself a euphemism. "Toilette" is a French word for washing,
ablutions, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper

While my mother generally did have an earthy sense of humor, and didn't
have any hesitation about calling the appliance itself a toilet, she
always used the euphemism "T-Paper" instead of "toilet paper".

--
John F. Eldredge --
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:12:16 +0000, ScratchMonkey wrote:

wrote in
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It's funny that your mom thought "toilet" was a naughty word -
that
word was itself a euphemism. "Toilette" is a French word for
washing,
ablutions, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper

While my mother generally did have an earthy sense of humor, and
didn't
have any hesitation about calling the appliance itself a toilet,
she
always used the euphemism "T-Paper" instead of "toilet paper".

Or for the really reticent, to the point of not being understood,
just TP

Jo

"Jofirey" wrote in news:7h7vdlF2sejc9U1
@mid.individual.net:

Funny how what was old is new again. In an effort to make the
'master bath' in my daughters three year old house more classy, the
toilet itself is in what is essentially a closet off the room with
the shower and huge tub and double sinks etc. Personally I think
the architect underestimated the amount of room needed to set aside
for a toilet with the door closed. I thought our toilet/shower off
out bedroom was tiny!

How big does a public restroom stall need to be? Seems like that would be a
good guideline for how much floor space to allocate.

wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think the reason for the separate room for the toilet may be due to
the fact that it was a later addition, in many Victorian homes - the may
"bathroom" may have originally been set aside for the purpose, before
running water was installed. The toilet was referred to as a "water
closet" because the room in which it was installed originally WAS a closet.

And indeed it was - and still is. I'm thinking of two places where
friends of mine have lived. In both cases, the "wc" would make a small
or average-sized closet for clothes. They wouldn't be fun places for
claustrophobics.

I knew a house once in which the reverse happened - what must have once
been a bedroom contained the bathroom, toilet, ironing board....yi


--
Cheryl

ScratchMonkey wrote:
"Jofirey" wrote in news:7h7vdlF2sejc9U1
@mid.individual.net:

Funny how what was old is new again. In an effort to make the
'master bath' in my daughters three year old house more classy, the
toilet itself is in what is essentially a closet off the room with
the shower and huge tub and double sinks etc. Personally I think
the architect underestimated the amount of room needed to set aside
for a toilet with the door closed. I thought our toilet/shower off
out bedroom was tiny!

How big does a public restroom stall need to be? Seems like that would be a
good guideline for how much floor space to allocate.

You have to consider how the door opens. I encountered one toilet - just
the toilet and a sink - in a public area in which the door opened
inward, but only so far because the toilet was behind it. It was all I
could do to squeeze around the door and past the sink so I could close
the door.

--
Cheryl

MLB wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Yowie wrote:
wrote in message

MatSav wrote:

Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily
function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and
in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as
nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we
have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our
'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of
public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be
hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it?
I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself
- but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost
forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal
about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc.
But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to
"use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to
sit in the bathroom". Oh, really?
Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is
that about?
For a while when we were desperately trying to get Cary out of
nappies (diapers), we had to rush into the toilet, inspect his
efforts and praise him profusely for it. I mean, what do you say
about the stuff? We had to go into some detail about the particular
individual nature of each session, and thus made a straw for our
own backs. After finally getting him to poop confidently in the
toilet, we then had to train Cary *not* to give us a running
commentary about his bowel activities even though we'd made a big
fuss just months earlier We're still arguing over who has to do the
wiping.

Kinda reminds me of the time when some girlfriends of mine got
togetherover lunch. All bar one of us have kids, and they're all
roughly of the same age too. We're in the middle of eating and
chatting about our lives, and the topic, as it usually does, turns
to our precious children, and one of my friends was complaining
about her own son just not 'getting' toilet training. The rest of
us chip in, and we all find ourselves having a lively discussion
about poo as we're happily chowing down. Except of course the one
who hasn't had kids yet (nor a litterbox), and she was looking
rather..... green. For the rest of us, dealing with other people's
poo is such a normal every day affair it had simply become a fact
of life, and we had forgotten that other people have certain
sensitivities to the subject, *especially* whilst eating.
Yowie

10 years ago I was asked by a three year old girl "does your mother
wipe your bottom?" :-)




And your replu was????
MLB

I'm not telling you. ;-)
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Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:39:57 -0230, Cheryl wrote:

wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think the reason for the separate room for the toilet may be due to
the fact that it was a later addition, in many Victorian homes - the may
"bathroom" may have originally been set aside for the purpose, before
running water was installed. The toilet was referred to as a "water
closet" because the room in which it was installed originally WAS a closet.

And indeed it was - and still is. I'm thinking of two places where
friends of mine have lived. In both cases, the "wc" would make a small
or average-sized closet for clothes. They wouldn't be fun places for
claustrophobics.

I knew a house once in which the reverse happened - what must have once
been a bedroom contained the bathroom, toilet, ironing board....yi

Both of my bathrooms were originally bedrooms. It's an old farm house
that was built in 1932 when there wasn't electricity in this area
until after the hydroelectric dam at Dale Hollow was built.

The first time our grandson visited after we moved here he took one
look at the downstairs bathroom and exclaimed that it was bigger than
his bedroom.

Hugs and purrs,

Nan and the furkids

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Marina kirjoitti:
MatSav wrote:

The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the
pan than those in the UK. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf'
on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is
deposited (for inspection?) before flushing, and not straight
into the standing water of the S-(or U-)bend vapour trap.

Hmm. I don't remember seeing this shelf in Germany or any other
European country that I've visited. Maybe I just wasn't paying
attention. :P

What has struck me about plumbing in other parst of Europe is
that the water pressure seems to be so much lower than here in
Finland. Here, you just have to stand under the shower half a
minute to be soaked, but you don't have to go further than
Denmark, and the water pressure is so low you stand there and
the water dribbles and dribbles and you never get completely
wet. Afraid I've had the same experience in England.


Just checked from the German Wiki on toilets, the shelf version
(Flachspüler) was more common before the 90's. And as I graduated
in -82, and bro studied in Augsburg in the 80's too, we still
remember the shelf version vividly.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilette

--
That's all in German. My German is not good. The words I've
learned are mainly relating to animals and nature which N & I like
to discuss.
I know eigel, hedgehog, ameisen, ant, huehn, hen stuff like that.
When I'm at Hamburg airport being searched for drugs that's not so
useful..especially if the woman who eats children for breakfast
claims to speak no English while she's searching me.
N says that is absolutely not true - no one employed there cannot
speak English. she chose not to.
I'd just got past the barrier where N could not follow to protect
me from my lack of Germanspeak.
Now if I'd realised that this German woman had deliberately
pretended to not speak English when she could I might have
mentioned we won the war. Normally I would not dream of mentioning
it.

I don't think I'd mention that to someone who still might have the
option of searching me.

Exactly. But I wanted to as she was so awful, but she searched me from
head to foot, and I kept quiet. N was livid when I told her. She said no
way she did not speak English, everyone employed at the airport has to and
she deliberately chose not to.

N & I have discussed the war ad infinitum Even after so long a friendship
the war between England and Germany isn't forgotten. She's ashamed about it.

This airport employee obviously still has issues. It's 60 years ago. Let it
go now.

Tweed