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Male cat FLUTD UTI problems
"Kelly Greene" "Stormmee" .... i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Then take a break from these NGs and learn about cat nutrition. Here's some good links to start you off: shredded wif sharp clawz Umkkkkkkkey..Mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Kelly Greene , diz iz gnot da rite groop tew dixzcuz diz matur at awl n yoo dunt git tew tawk tew Auntie Lee wike dat..nope I taked owt da crosspoastz tew, so dere!! Bad mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Mosey |
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"Stormmee" wrote
i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Hi Lee, fancy meeting you here! You are right. There is no 'one size fits all' diet although there are plenty who think there is and will occasionally be impolite about it. |
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"Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... i agree about not using the old pills but i DO NOT agree on the wet only option, if you can switch him and that is what your vet reccommends fine, but my tiger was so bad we thought we would lose him, he has now been crystal/infection free for over five years on a diet of dry c/d and is healtheir than ever. Lee There are people who smoke heavily all their lives like my mother who died at 90, and never get lung cancer. You too, huh? - My mom started smoking at 15 and quit when she was 90 because "they are too expensive". She went on to live to 97. So she smoked for 75 years! When I tell doctors that, it blows them away! |
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Bill Graham wrote:
"Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... i agree about not using the old pills but i DO NOT agree on the wet only option, if you can switch him and that is what your vet reccommends fine, but my tiger was so bad we thought we would lose him, he has now been crystal/infection free for over five years on a diet of dry c/d and is healtheir than ever. Lee There are people who smoke heavily all their lives like my mother who died at 90, and never get lung cancer. You too, huh? - My mom started smoking at 15 and quit when she was 90 because "they are too expensive". She went on to live to 97. So she smoked for 75 years! When I tell doctors that, it blows them away! If it blew them away, they were not very good doctors. Individual variation and resilience plays a very big role in human and cat health. Risk factors are important only for the mediocre, susceptible part of the population, that would have gotten the disease easily anyway. Fit, healthy, genetically advanced individuals (cats that we would like to have, humans that we should strive to mate with) do not care about risk factors. And if they succumb to them - well, they were not that superior to begin with, and their loss is indicative, if painful. |
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"Dragoman" wrote in message ... Bill Graham wrote: "Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... i agree about not using the old pills but i DO NOT agree on the wet only option, if you can switch him and that is what your vet reccommends fine, but my tiger was so bad we thought we would lose him, he has now been crystal/infection free for over five years on a diet of dry c/d and is healtheir than ever. Lee There are people who smoke heavily all their lives like my mother who died at 90, and never get lung cancer. You too, huh? - My mom started smoking at 15 and quit when she was 90 because "they are too expensive". She went on to live to 97. So she smoked for 75 years! When I tell doctors that, it blows them away! If it blew them away, they were not very good doctors. Individual variation and resilience plays a very big role in human and cat health. Risk factors are important only for the mediocre, susceptible part of the population, that would have gotten the disease easily anyway. Fit, healthy, genetically advanced individuals (cats that we would like to have, humans that we should strive to mate with) do not care about risk factors. And if they succumb to them - well, they were not that superior to begin with, and their loss is indicative, if painful. I had a brother in law who died of lung cancer, and he never smoked anything in his entire life. I also know that the national cancer institute attributes every lung cancer death in the entire world to either their smoking, or to their ingestion of second hand smoke....IOW, they don't believe it's possible for anyone who dies of lung cancer to have contracted the disease any other way besides tobacco smoke. So I take these, "TV" statistics with a large grain of salt...... |
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now you are the only person on NGs that can google, please take a break from
admiring yourself and give others credit for taking proper care of their animals... i don't see a DMV behind your name, I would NEVER presume to tell another how to care for their cat, i can only tell someone else what worked for mine, and i didn't post this on a group i normally don't read, i am responding to post that are in groups that i do normally read, Lee "Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Then take a break from these NGs and learn about cat nutrition. Here's some good links to start you off: Feline nutrition information: http://www.catinfo.org/ History of dry food (a must-read article): http://www.catnutrition.org/diabetes.php http://www.yourdiabeticcat.com/ http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/canned_food.htm http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm http://www.catinfo.org/ by Lisa A. Pierson, DVM http://www.catinfo.org/zorans_article.pdf http://www.felinefuture.com/?p=630 (dry foods) www.rawfedcats.org http://www.catinfo.org/#Cats_Need_Animal-Based_Protein_ http://www.catinfo.org/#We_Are_Feedi..._Carbohydrates |
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thank you sweetie, here have a bowl of nip, anti soft
"mosey =^..^=" wrote in message ... "Kelly Greene" "Stormmee" ... i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Then take a break from these NGs and learn about cat nutrition. Here's some good links to start you off: shredded wif sharp clawz Umkkkkkkkey..Mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Kelly Greene , diz iz gnot da rite groop tew dixzcuz diz matur at awl n yoo dunt git tew tawk tew Auntie Lee wike dat..nope I taked owt da crosspoastz tew, so dere!! Bad mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Mosey |
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well none of this would have ever come to my attention had it not been
posted to rpcc which is the group i actuall read. It is just beyond my ability to comprehend that someone fancies thenselves such an expert without having the proper training, and each animal is as different as each human being. my first dog guide would eat nothing but that cheap nasty bow wow dog food, so after consulting with the vet we gave him vitamins and meat to supplement and he was nutritionally sound. my second dog couldn't tolerate many foods had a dogey stomach and could have nothing in the way of "people" food or she hurked it up. but both dogs were given the best treatment and it was idivudalised for that specific dog. the best thing about the groups is reading what did and did not work for each personal story/animal, it gives perspective on what the animal in question should have for its best care. Lee "cshenk" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Hi Lee, fancy meeting you here! You are right. There is no 'one size fits all' diet although there are plenty who think there is and will occasionally be impolite about it. |
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which is my point exactly. while there are patterns and contributing
factors nothing when it comes to health is set in stone. tiger never had a hint of crystals until a month or so after we started the cats on wellness. every other cat in the house did fabulously on it, he did not, the other cats got shinier coats, more energy and bla bla bla, but tiger did NOT flourish... now i am not saying the wellness caused his issues because i am not sure about that but now that they are all on c/d they are all fine... and as an aside, in june of that same year Miss Violette was given a clean bill of health by the vet just after that i switched them to wellness... by november she was dead from kidney cancer. fast acting and very sad but again i can't blame the food, Lee "Bill Graham" wrote in message news "Dragoman" wrote in message ... Bill Graham wrote: "Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... i agree about not using the old pills but i DO NOT agree on the wet only option, if you can switch him and that is what your vet reccommends fine, but my tiger was so bad we thought we would lose him, he has now been crystal/infection free for over five years on a diet of dry c/d and is healtheir than ever. Lee There are people who smoke heavily all their lives like my mother who died at 90, and never get lung cancer. You too, huh? - My mom started smoking at 15 and quit when she was 90 because "they are too expensive". She went on to live to 97. So she smoked for 75 years! When I tell doctors that, it blows them away! If it blew them away, they were not very good doctors. Individual variation and resilience plays a very big role in human and cat health. Risk factors are important only for the mediocre, susceptible part of the population, that would have gotten the disease easily anyway. Fit, healthy, genetically advanced individuals (cats that we would like to have, humans that we should strive to mate with) do not care about risk factors. And if they succumb to them - well, they were not that superior to begin with, and their loss is indicative, if painful. I had a brother in law who died of lung cancer, and he never smoked anything in his entire life. I also know that the national cancer institute attributes every lung cancer death in the entire world to either their smoking, or to their ingestion of second hand smoke....IOW, they don't believe it's possible for anyone who dies of lung cancer to have contracted the disease any other way besides tobacco smoke. So I take these, "TV" statistics with a large grain of salt...... |
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Fank yew vury mutch anti Soft..Iiiiiii jest luffs yerownself.
Iiiiii wunna gnow hoo deez sew kalled weerd hoominz r n wyyyyy dey r in OWR groop..uh kitty groop? I reeefuze tew croxpoast tew demself, sew I wil jest deleet da entyre anxser.. I kan doo dat..dey r maykn me hissed off, fur shur. Luffs tew yoo n I hisses at dem. Mosey ... thank you sweetie, here have a bowl of nip, anti soft "mosey =^..^=" "Kelly Greene" "Stormmee" ... i meant this or that treatment works... to spew that sort of thing does not allo9w for differences in cats or issues at all and i find cultish at best and stupid at worst, Lee Then take a break from these NGs and learn about cat nutrition. Here's some good links to start you off: shredded wif sharp clawz Umkkkkkkkey..Mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Kelly Greene , diz iz gnot da rite groop tew dixzcuz diz matur at awl n yoo dunt git tew tawk tew Auntie Lee wike dat..nope I taked owt da crosspoastz tew, so dere!! Bad mrrrrrrrrrrrrt Mosey |
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