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Old January 9th 04, 01:19 AM
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I had a foster kitten that reacted to the vaccine too. After a few weeks it
went away.. cancer can develop with vaccines, but its usually not that fast.
"Charles" wrote in message
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I took in an abandoned kitty approx 4 months ago. She is now 6-7 months
old. I was what I thought to be a wonderful owner, purchasing several
scratching posts, giving kitty the run of the house. Did NOT have her
declawed, got her rabies and distemper vaccine, had her spayed. Now 6

weeks
after her rabies vaccine, there is a lump at her vaccination site.

Further
research suggests that this could very likely be cancerous sarcoma caused

by
the vaccine. The vet NEVER mentioned this side effect. We had a needle
aspirator (sp) biopsy which was negative, but even the vet said we still
should be concerned. We are going to watch the lump for changes and may
have a tough choice coming up. I am very upset about this and can't help
but wonder if I wouldn't have been better off leaving kitty a feral. I
can't believe that my own actions of having her vaccinated may cause her
such pain. We have grown so attached to kitty. The vet tried to reassure
us that it is unlikely that this is cancerous, but I am AMAZED at how many
other cat owners have gone through this same thing. Any one out there have
experience with post vaccination lumps. I am just praying that one

morning
I will wake up and the lump will be gone.




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Old January 9th 04, 01:28 AM
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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From what I read, 1 in 5000 cats are affected--seems like a lot but as a
percentage, it's .0002%.


More like .02%, I guess... If we start with the fact that 1 in 50 is 2%,
then 1 in 500 is 0.2% and...?

Hans


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Old January 9th 04, 01:28 AM
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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From what I read, 1 in 5000 cats are affected--seems like a lot but as a
percentage, it's .0002%.


More like .02%, I guess... If we start with the fact that 1 in 50 is 2%,
then 1 in 500 is 0.2% and...?

Hans


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Old January 9th 04, 01:56 AM
Rona Yuthasastrakosol
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"Hans Schrøder" wrote in message
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More like .02%, I guess... If we start with the fact that 1 in 50 is 2%,
then 1 in 500 is 0.2% and...?

Hans



Oops! I meant to adjust the decimal point but forgot! But staying on
topic, .02% is still a relatively low risk...

Thanks for the correction!

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Old January 9th 04, 01:56 AM
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"Hans Schrøder" wrote in message
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More like .02%, I guess... If we start with the fact that 1 in 50 is 2%,
then 1 in 500 is 0.2% and...?

Hans



Oops! I meant to adjust the decimal point but forgot! But staying on
topic, .02% is still a relatively low risk...

Thanks for the correction!

rona

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Old January 9th 04, 03:16 AM
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:46:13 -0600, Charles wrote:

I took in an abandoned kitty approx 4 months ago. She is now 6-7 months
old. I was what I thought to be a wonderful owner, purchasing several
scratching posts, giving kitty the run of the house. Did NOT have her
declawed, got her rabies and distemper vaccine, had her spayed. Now 6
weeks after her rabies vaccine, there is a lump at her vaccination site.


And you took her to the vet. Good call, and with this, you did the Right
thing.

Further
research suggests that this could very likely be cancerous sarcoma
caused by the vaccine. The vet NEVER mentioned this side effect.


Here's a question - where is the research that says this is a
*significant* risk? Odds are that your vet not only felt that this was of
no risk, but that because a rabies shot may be so routine

First and foremost, I'll go on record as saying I hope this gets better.
Second, keep in mind that I'm not anywhere near a doctor of any sort.

Now then, something I learned is that most sub-independent research (IE,
"this is what happened to me") is something to be taken with a grain -
nay, about a truckload - of salt. It is always the people who have
something bad happen to them who yell the loudest, and when something goes
right, the only time you'll hear of it is if it's authoritative research
beyond what the news gives you. (Besides, the news gives you
pseudoscientific results of initial findings - such as that having a beer
would melt your liver, and next year beer would strengthen your heart, or
something equally ridiculous.)

With that said, keep in mind that, as it is in humans, there is a risk
when you do something - ANYTHING - invasive to a feline, from full blown
open heart surgery to something as simple as a vaccination injection,
however minute the risk is. There are steps to prevent really nasty
things from happening, but every now and again something does happen, and
there are almost always ways to treat this.

In any case, heed your vet's word before you heed what's online - they are
the one who has the training to know where there are problems.

We had a needle
aspirator (sp) biopsy which was negative, but even the vet said we still
should be concerned. We are going to watch the lump for changes and may
have a tough choice coming up.


If the biopsy came back negative, like others have said, there's probably
no worry.

I am very upset about this and can't help but wonder if I wouldn't have
been better off leaving kitty a feral.


Well, kitty has grown fond of you, yesno? =^^=

The storm will ride out. Prayers and purrs for you and kitty, I'm sure
this isn't painless.

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
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Old January 9th 04, 03:16 AM
Dennis Carr
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:46:13 -0600, Charles wrote:

I took in an abandoned kitty approx 4 months ago. She is now 6-7 months
old. I was what I thought to be a wonderful owner, purchasing several
scratching posts, giving kitty the run of the house. Did NOT have her
declawed, got her rabies and distemper vaccine, had her spayed. Now 6
weeks after her rabies vaccine, there is a lump at her vaccination site.


And you took her to the vet. Good call, and with this, you did the Right
thing.

Further
research suggests that this could very likely be cancerous sarcoma
caused by the vaccine. The vet NEVER mentioned this side effect.


Here's a question - where is the research that says this is a
*significant* risk? Odds are that your vet not only felt that this was of
no risk, but that because a rabies shot may be so routine

First and foremost, I'll go on record as saying I hope this gets better.
Second, keep in mind that I'm not anywhere near a doctor of any sort.

Now then, something I learned is that most sub-independent research (IE,
"this is what happened to me") is something to be taken with a grain -
nay, about a truckload - of salt. It is always the people who have
something bad happen to them who yell the loudest, and when something goes
right, the only time you'll hear of it is if it's authoritative research
beyond what the news gives you. (Besides, the news gives you
pseudoscientific results of initial findings - such as that having a beer
would melt your liver, and next year beer would strengthen your heart, or
something equally ridiculous.)

With that said, keep in mind that, as it is in humans, there is a risk
when you do something - ANYTHING - invasive to a feline, from full blown
open heart surgery to something as simple as a vaccination injection,
however minute the risk is. There are steps to prevent really nasty
things from happening, but every now and again something does happen, and
there are almost always ways to treat this.

In any case, heed your vet's word before you heed what's online - they are
the one who has the training to know where there are problems.

We had a needle
aspirator (sp) biopsy which was negative, but even the vet said we still
should be concerned. We are going to watch the lump for changes and may
have a tough choice coming up.


If the biopsy came back negative, like others have said, there's probably
no worry.

I am very upset about this and can't help but wonder if I wouldn't have
been better off leaving kitty a feral.


Well, kitty has grown fond of you, yesno? =^^=

The storm will ride out. Prayers and purrs for you and kitty, I'm sure
this isn't painless.

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
------------------------------------+-------------------------------

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Old January 9th 04, 03:37 AM
Cathy Friedmann
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Considering the needle aspiration biopsy was negative, I wouldn't be
overly-worried. I personally know of one cat who died of a vaccine (FeLV -
cat was indoor/outdoor, so needed the vaccine) site-induced cancerous tumor
on her shoulder a few years ago, when the cat was 7. It was inoperable,
because of the location. Now a rear leg is used for FeLV vax, *if* the cat
needs it, so that an amputation can be performed in the unlikely event of a
carcinoma forming as a result of the shot.

So, I agree to keep a watch on it, but to try to relax in the meantime.
Adopting her was, IMO, a wiser thing to do than to leave her to her own
devices outside. One can't ever second-guess such a situation - the "what
ifs" - the adverse things that *may* happen, Vs. what is -likely- to be the
overall better situation. And you chose the likely-to-be-better deals:
adopting her & getting her rabies shot taken care of. Which it may very
well still turn out to be.

Cathy

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"Charles" wrote in message
...
I took in an abandoned kitty approx 4 months ago. She is now 6-7 months
old. I was what I thought to be a wonderful owner, purchasing several
scratching posts, giving kitty the run of the house. Did NOT have her
declawed, got her rabies and distemper vaccine, had her spayed. Now 6

weeks
after her rabies vaccine, there is a lump at her vaccination site.

Further
research suggests that this could very likely be cancerous sarcoma caused

by
the vaccine. The vet NEVER mentioned this side effect. We had a needle
aspirator (sp) biopsy which was negative, but even the vet said we still
should be concerned. We are going to watch the lump for changes and may
have a tough choice coming up. I am very upset about this and can't help
but wonder if I wouldn't have been better off leaving kitty a feral. I
can't believe that my own actions of having her vaccinated may cause her
such pain. We have grown so attached to kitty. The vet tried to reassure
us that it is unlikely that this is cancerous, but I am AMAZED at how many
other cat owners have gone through this same thing. Any one out there have
experience with post vaccination lumps. I am just praying that one

morning
I will wake up and the lump will be gone.




 




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