Cat not drinking water

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do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
howl that he uses for these occasions.

Har, that's funny. In a reverse role, I'm planning on taking my three year
old Deetoo out for recreation trips this coming summer. Only other times
she's been out is when she's been in her cat carry bag while I roll down
the
street to her annual vet examination.

Currently, I've been putting a halter on Deetoo and she wears it around
the
apartment for several hours without complaint. Next I'll attach a leash to
the halter and walk her a little bit in the apartment hallways. The final
part will be when I take her over to a friend's house and tie the leash to
a
stake in the ground and see how she likes the green grass. If she weathers
that experience without too much complaint, I'll see about expanding
outings
for her in the future.

And to the comment a previous poster made, most cat inside/outside
comments
are talking in absolutes. I agree with that assessment. If I lived in a
house in some rural area or perhaps a farm, I'd let my cat out. But, not
when I'm living in the middle of a city with 3 zillion cars zipping by and
minimal trees and grass to be found.




I once thought about trying to accomodate Bubba to a harness for outside
walks, but 25Lbs of howling and wiggling panic on a leash doesn't seem
like that good of an idea.

There isn't much car trafic where I live and there is a 15 MPH
speed limit that is observed my most. The worst danger to cats
in my neighborhood is the occasional escaped Jack Russell.

I got Bubba from the pound, and it really seems as if he
has had a bad outdoor experience in the past somewhere.
I've never seen an animal throw such a fit as when I
take him outside. Even when I hold him he goes into
total panic. If he was inclined to scratch or bite
he'd tear me up....

Mine Winter in the house, but spend their Summers outside on the deck, on
the roof, and/or in the driveway......I protect them with two traffic cones
during the Summer. (from delivery trucks who might use the driveway to turn
around on my one-way street)

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I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.

Funny thread.
I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
dies.
When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.
Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

"AMUN" is a nutcase who hates all non-zionists. He's tracked me here to
flame me, but you can see how whacked in the head he is. He has a short
attention span, he'll lose interest soon enough.

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"William Graham" wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
it dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

I think that if you get a cat from kittenhood, and keep it well indoors,
it can lead a very happy life. but if you get cats the way I do, ones that
just wandered in that someone else abandoned, who have been living
outdoors most of their lives, then it is very hard to keep them as indoor
cats. What's strange about, "professor" is that he presumes to know all
about other people whom he has never met, and thinks the whole world lives
the way he does, or at least ought to live the way he does. He doesn't
have the imagination to be able to put himself in someone else's shoes or
believe that it might be possible for others (and/or their cats) to keep a
different life style than he does.

Exactly the opposite. I don't give a **** what you do or how little care
you give your cats. I object to your labeling all owners of indoor cats as
prison wardens when you decree that living outdoors is the only way all cats
should live. You are absolutely and completely full of ****. You should
look into the posting history of AMUN to see what kind of nut job you have
allied yourself with.

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"William Graham" wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
it dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to
get away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

I think that if you get a cat from kittenhood, and keep it well indoors,
it can lead a very happy life. but if you get cats the way I do, ones
that just wandered in that someone else abandoned, who have been living
outdoors most of their lives, then it is very hard to keep them as indoor
cats. What's strange about, "professor" is that he presumes to know all
about other people whom he has never met, and thinks the whole world
lives the way he does, or at least ought to live the way he does. He
doesn't have the imagination to be able to put himself in someone else's
shoes or believe that it might be possible for others (and/or their cats)
to keep a different life style than he does.

Exactly the opposite. I don't give a **** what you do or how little care
you give your cats. I object to your labeling all owners of indoor cats
as prison wardens when you decree that living outdoors is the only way all
cats should live. You are absolutely and completely full of ****. You
should look into the posting history of AMUN to see what kind of nut job
you have allied yourself with.

William is a nutjob too. Also full of ****.

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"William Graham" wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to
cater to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
it dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to
get away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

I think that if you get a cat from kittenhood, and keep it well indoors,
it can lead a very happy life. but if you get cats the way I do, ones
that just wandered in that someone else abandoned, who have been living
outdoors most of their lives, then it is very hard to keep them as indoor
cats. What's strange about, "professor" is that he presumes to know all
about other people whom he has never met, and thinks the whole world
lives the way he does, or at least ought to live the way he does. He
doesn't have the imagination to be able to put himself in someone else's
shoes or believe that it might be possible for others (and/or their cats)
to keep a different life style than he does.

Exactly the opposite. I don't give a **** what you do or how little care
you give your cats. I object to your labeling all owners of indoor cats
as prison wardens when you decree that living outdoors is the only way all
cats should live. You are absolutely and completely full of ****. You
should look into the posting history of AMUN to see what kind of nut job
you have allied yourself with.

Please give the reference where I "label all owners of indoor cats as prison
wardens". I certainly never said that. What I said was exactly what is
printed above. That an indoor cat can lead a very happy
life........Apparently, you are not only narrow minded, but you also have a
problem with reading comprehension.

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"William Graham" wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let theirs
out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and it
dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

Cats "held captive"?? Hmmm, that's an odd way of putting it; how does one
know if a cat is being "held captive" or if its actually happier being
indoors? Does the fact that it doesn't run for the door every time it's open
mean that it's happy indoors? Or does that just mean that it's never been
outside before and is treading carefully when it gets a whiff of all the new
smells and hears all the new sounds? Could it possibly not run because,
while it likes the outdoors because it's been out there, it had a bad
experience so it's not in a hurry to go back out? How do you KNOW whether a
cat is happy indoors or out?

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"William Graham" wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be happier inside, because I am too lazy to cater
to them they way I would have to were they inside cats.....

Therein lies the truth. Take your cats to a shelter where they might
find
a home with someone who can be bothered to take care of them.

William and Ivor are two ignorant peas in a very dysfunctional pod.
Cats are good judges of character, these two don't make the cut.


Funny thread.

I know several people who "indoor" their cats, and at least one let
theirs out accidentally, and never saw it again.
They swore that same arguments I see here about letting it out once and
it dies.

When the truth probably was that once the cat finally got a chance to get
away, it probably still hasn't stopped running, is now happy, has a
family, and a good job.

Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.

Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

Cats "held captive"?? Hmmm, that's an odd way of putting it; how does one
know if a cat is being "held captive" or if its actually happier being
indoors? Does the fact that it doesn't run for the door every time it's
open mean that it's happy indoors? Or does that just mean that it's never
been outside before and is treading carefully when it gets a whiff of all
the new smells and hears all the new sounds? Could it possibly not run
because, while it likes the outdoors because it's been out there, it had a
bad experience so it's not in a hurry to go back out? How do you KNOW
whether a cat is happy indoors or out?

You don't know. Cats are curious, and they can't stand not being able to
satisfy their curiosity.....Try keeping your indoor cats out of a particular
room or closet. They will kill to get in there, even it there is nothing
there that they want or like. This another reason why I have "outside cats".
I can't spend all my time policing the entrances and exits from my large
house. The truth of the matter is that my cats never go anywhere but the
roof and porch, because they really don't want to go anywhere else. And all
I have to do to achieve this is to not worry about them getting out.

"Claude V. Lucas" wrote in message
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Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just
because
it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's
like
any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't
find
its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily
got
lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
point to get home.




And for a different point of view, Bubba the Maine Coon absolutely
refuses to go outside. I leave the door open, weather permitting,
and he'll occasionally look out for a moment, then turn around and
do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
howl that he uses for these occasions. If I set him down, he sets a
land speed record getting back inside. If the door is closed he sits
and howls at the door until someone opens it and lets him in.

All of mine are that way too. After hurricane Rita we were without
electricity for over a day and had to leave all the windows and doors open
just to get a little breeze and not bake to death. All of my cats walked in
wide circles around the open doors afraid the scary "out" would get them.

Hugs,

CatNipped

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Cats free to come and go outdoors , return because they want to.
Cats held captive, will always run when they get a chance.

You're a flaming idiot. Saying that they run is giving them human
attributes. Cats are curious creatures and want to get outside just
because
it's some place they've never been and so they go looking around. It's
like
any five year old child who chases a butterfly, becomes lost and can't
find
its way back. Only difference is that a cat usually has enough natural
instincts to survive away from home. A cat new to the outside can easily
got
lost and not be able to find it's way back home. That's not running. It's
called being in a completely unfamiliar environment without any reference
point to get home.




And for a different point of view, Bubba the Maine Coon absolutely
refuses to go outside. I leave the door open, weather permitting,
and he'll occasionally look out for a moment, then turn around and
do something else. On the occasions when I pick him up and carry him
outside he immediately goes into full drama queen mode and acts as
if I'm sticking pins in him or something. He has a special "outdoor"
howl that he uses for these occasions. If I set him down, he sets a
land speed record getting back inside. If the door is closed he sits
and howls at the door until someone opens it and lets him in.

All of mine are that way too. After hurricane Rita we were without
electricity for over a day and had to leave all the windows and doors open
just to get a little breeze and not bake to death. All of my cats walked in
wide circles around the open doors afraid the scary "out" would get them.


He'll sit in the doorway and look out for a minute or two.

I wish I had a recording of Bubba's outdoor howl.

It's an amazing combination of "NNNNNOOOOOO" and "OOOOOOOWWWWWWWW"

I can even put food outside and he won't go out for it.

With Bubba, that's really saying something.

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: Exactly the opposite. I don't give a **** what you do or how
: little care you give your cats. I object to your labeling all
: owners of indoor cats as prison wardens when you decree that living
: outdoors is the only way all cats should live. You are absolutely
: and completely full of ****. You should look into the posting
: history of AMUN to see what kind of nut job you have allied
: yourself with.
:
: William is a nutjob too. Also full of ****.

And anyone who has to resort to abuse to make their point has lost both
the argument and any credibility they may once have possessed.

I'm out of here. With my cats.


Ivor