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  #11  
Old April 19th 05, 08:56 PM
CatNipped
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"Seanette Blaylock" wrote in
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Karen had some very interesting things to say
about Need links!:

Over on an e-mail list I'm on, there's someone who's normally a very
kind person (she fosters d-pets all the time) who now has a kitten she
plans to have declawed. I'm assuming she just doesn't realize what
she's about to do, so I need links to show her just why this is such a
bad move.
TIA!

http://community-2.webtv.net/zuzu22/STOPDECLAWCOM/


Thanks for trying, gang, but I got the cyber equivalent of sticking
fingers in ears and yelling "LA LA LA I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU SO I'M
NOT GOING TO".

I unsubbed from that list, and told her her attitude toward cats was
why.

I just don't have the energy to fight hopeless battles. Megan, shut
up.


I'm sorry to hear that, but you can't force somebody to educate themselves
if they don't want to hear it, and you can't shove empathy down their throat
if they don't already have it. Purrs that the little furbaby will at least
get through the pain as quickly as possible and will adjust to life without
claws without developing problems that will cause this numbskull to dump
him/her.

Hugs,

CatNipped

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doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.
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  #12  
Old April 19th 05, 08:58 PM
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CatNipped wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...

Seanette Blaylock wrote:
Thanks for trying, gang, but I got the cyber equivalent of

sticking
fingers in ears and yelling "LA LA LA I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU SO

I'M
NOT GOING TO".

I unsubbed from that list,


What list?

and told her her attitude toward cats was
why.

I just don't have the energy to fight hopeless battles. Megan,

shut
up.


*WHAT* is THAT all about?

Even if you hate Megan, her website is THE best anti-declaw website

on
the net. If you want info and data to change someone's mind, it's
there.

-L.


Were you not here to see how Megan flamed Ginger-lyn for not keeping

a
foster she adopted to someone whom she thought *might* - not would,

but
*might* - declaw a cat? THAT is *WHAT* that is about. What are you

now,
Megan's defender and protector???


Please, don't. Please, just stop it right now. Dredging all that up
again is just inflammatory, and serves no purpose but to incite
ugliness. No matter what you think about Megan, all that is suggested
is using her website for a reference tool, and it IS a good reference
tool. If Seanette doesn't want to, I am sure we can find her another
website. Why don't we spend our energy looking for one for her, instead
of picking another argument over something that happened months ago?

Sherry

  #13  
Old April 19th 05, 09:09 PM
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wrote in message
ps.com...

CatNipped wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...

Seanette Blaylock wrote:
Thanks for trying, gang, but I got the cyber equivalent of

sticking
fingers in ears and yelling "LA LA LA I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU SO

I'M
NOT GOING TO".

I unsubbed from that list,

What list?

and told her her attitude toward cats was
why.

I just don't have the energy to fight hopeless battles. Megan,

shut
up.


*WHAT* is THAT all about?

Even if you hate Megan, her website is THE best anti-declaw website

on
the net. If you want info and data to change someone's mind, it's
there.

-L.


Were you not here to see how Megan flamed Ginger-lyn for not keeping

a
foster she adopted to someone whom she thought *might* - not would,

but
*might* - declaw a cat? THAT is *WHAT* that is about. What are you

now,
Megan's defender and protector???


Please, don't. Please, just stop it right now. Dredging all that up
again is just inflammatory, and serves no purpose but to incite
ugliness. No matter what you think about Megan, all that is suggested
is using her website for a reference tool, and it IS a good reference
tool. If Seanette doesn't want to, I am sure we can find her another
website. Why don't we spend our energy looking for one for her, instead
of picking another argument over something that happened months ago?

Sherry


Then please ask this of Lyn also. She should not have "shouted" at Seanette
when Seanette asked not to be flamed like Ginger-lyn was (a not unfair
request given the history here).

I really am *not* the one starting these little bruhahas, but I *am* the
*only* one being scolded about them when I respond (even mildly and not in
kind).

Hugs,

CatNipped


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Old April 19th 05, 09:30 PM
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CatNipped wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

CatNipped wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...

Seanette Blaylock wrote:
Thanks for trying, gang, but I got the cyber equivalent of

sticking
fingers in ears and yelling "LA LA LA I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU

SO
I'M
NOT GOING TO".

I unsubbed from that list,

What list?

and told her her attitude toward cats was
why.

I just don't have the energy to fight hopeless battles. Megan,

shut
up.


*WHAT* is THAT all about?

Even if you hate Megan, her website is THE best anti-declaw

website
on
the net. If you want info and data to change someone's mind,

it's
there.

-L.

Were you not here to see how Megan flamed Ginger-lyn for not

keeping
a
foster she adopted to someone whom she thought *might* - not

would,
but
*might* - declaw a cat? THAT is *WHAT* that is about. What are

you
now,
Megan's defender and protector???


Please, don't. Please, just stop it right now. Dredging all that up
again is just inflammatory, and serves no purpose but to incite
ugliness. No matter what you think about Megan, all that is

suggested
is using her website for a reference tool, and it IS a good

reference
tool. If Seanette doesn't want to, I am sure we can find her

another
website. Why don't we spend our energy looking for one for her,

instead
of picking another argument over something that happened months

ago?

Sherry


Then please ask this of Lyn also. She should not have "shouted" at

Seanette
when Seanette asked not to be flamed like Ginger-lyn was (a not

unfair
request given the history here).

I really am *not* the one starting these little bruhahas, but I *am*

the
*only* one being scolded about them when I respond (even mildly and

not in
kind).

Hugs,

CatNipped


But Seanette is an extremely intelligent woman. If she were offended, I
bet she could have worked through it just fine. Sometimes it's better
for a 3rd party, especially one who has a past history of conflict with
both Megan and Lyn, to just sit back and let them resolve
misunderstanding without jumping in with a highly inflammatory post.
That's all I meant. I'm not scolding anyone. It takes two. Believe me,
I know this. It has taken me about five years on usenet to figure it
out.

Back to Seanett's quandary, I checked Google...there's a plethora of
good websites out there. I can't find the one I used to use to print a
brochure from. Here are three I thought were interesting:

http://www.declawing.com/htmls/declawing.htm

http://www.declaw.lisaviolet.com/

www.avar.org/avar_cat_declawing.html

Sherry

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Old April 19th 05, 09:35 PM
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wrote in message
ups.com...

But Seanette is an extremely intelligent woman. If she were offended, I
bet she could have worked through it just fine. Sometimes it's better
for a 3rd party, especially one who has a past history of conflict with
both Megan and Lyn, to just sit back and let them resolve
misunderstanding without jumping in with a highly inflammatory post.
That's all I meant. I'm not scolding anyone. It takes two. Believe me,
I know this. It has taken me about five years on usenet to figure it
out.


Then I apologize for taking offense, Sherry - I will admit I'm still a bit
singed around the edges and jumpy when it comes to these two (I've never
before even heard some of the names I've been called in the last week or so!
;).

Hugs,

CatNipped

Back to Seanett's quandary, I checked Google...there's a plethora of
good websites out there. I can't find the one I used to use to print a
brochure from. Here are three I thought were interesting:

http://www.declawing.com/htmls/declawing.htm

http://www.declaw.lisaviolet.com/

www.avar.org/avar_cat_declawing.html

Sherry



  #16  
Old April 20th 05, 01:20 AM
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Karen wrote:
She just meant Megan might now come on and rant at her for not

hounding this
woman more.



Oh, ok. I couldn't for the life of me figure out where *that* was
coming from. megan's site is de facto the best anti-declaw site on the
net. No reason it can't just be sent as a link - to anyone.

-L.

  #17  
Old April 20th 05, 01:27 AM
-L.
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wrote:
But Seanette is an extremely intelligent woman. If she were offended,

I
bet she could have worked through it just fine. Sometimes it's better
for a 3rd party, especially one who has a past history of conflict

with
both Megan and Lyn, to just sit back and let them resolve
misunderstanding without jumping in with a highly inflammatory post.


WTF is this about? All I said is that Megan's site is the best
anti-declaw site on the net. It is. I wish people would quit dragging
me into their ****ing wars. I have absolutely nothing against Seanette
- I just couldn't understand what she was talking about. And Megan and
I don't see eye-to-eye on a number of issues but she's still the best
resource when it comes to declawing.

That's all I meant. I'm not scolding anyone. It takes two. Believe

me,
I know this. It has taken me about five years on usenet to figure it
out.


Well, whatever you're referencing, count me out. I'm not ****ing on
anyone.
Sheesh.

-L.

  #18  
Old April 20th 05, 02:53 AM
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
...
Then please ask this of Lyn also. She should not have "shouted" at
Seanette when Seanette asked not to be flamed like Ginger-lyn was (a not
unfair request given the history here).

I really am *not* the one starting these little bruhahas, but I *am* the
*only* one being scolded about them when I respond (even mildly and not in
kind).
Hugs,
CatNipped


CatNipped,

Please heed Sherry's plea and don't start in. Isn't saying "she started
it" exactly what children say when they get caught? I'd like to think you
are above all that childishness.

You have a real talent for writing and I enjoy your Sammy stories and would
like to see more.

Of course, you can write whatever you like, but for what it's worth, the
more you participate in these flame wars, the less likely I am to open the
post when I see your name. That makes me sad.

If -L- is Lynn, I'd say she did not shout at Seanette. Seanette asked for
anti-declaw links, and -L- suggested one of the best links around. Phil P
has another source of information.

If you are referring to another person who actually "shouted" at Seanette, I
didn't see it because I probably have killfiled that person.

I hope you understand that my purpose is not to "scold" you or hurt you. I
care about you. I believe you are a kind-hearted person with a delightful
sense of humor. It's to let you know that you have so much to contribute
and resorting to childish bickering does not do you justice.

Annie


  #19  
Old April 20th 05, 02:53 AM
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wrote:
CatNipped wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

CatNipped wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...

Seanette Blaylock wrote:
Thanks for trying, gang, but I got the cyber equivalent of
sticking fingers in ears and yelling "LA LA LA I DON'T WANT TO
HEAR YOU SO I'M NOT GOING TO".

*WHAT* is THAT all about?

Even if you hate Megan, her website is THE best anti-declaw
website on the net.
-L.

Were you not here to see how Megan flamed Ginger-lyn for not
keeping a foster she adopted to someone whom she thought *might* -
not would, but *might* - declaw a cat?

Please, don't. Please, just stop it right now. Dredging all that up
again is just inflammatory, and serves no purpose
good reference tool. If Seanette doesn't want to, I am sure we can
find her another website. Why don't we spend our energy looking for
one for her, instead of picking another argument over something
that happened months ago?

Sherry


Then please ask this of Lyn also. She should not have "shouted" at
Seanette when Seanette asked not to be flamed

CatNipped


But Seanette is an extremely intelligent woman. If she were offended,
I bet she could have worked through it just fine.

Back to Seanett's quandary, I checked Google...there's a plethora of
good websites out there.

Sherry


Seanette's examples to the woman are falling on deaf ears. The woman
doesn't want to hear about the reasons not to declaw, period. Sometimes you
simply cannot change people's minds. That's all Seanette was saying.

Jill


  #20  
Old April 20th 05, 03:08 AM
Seanette Blaylock
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"Karen" had some very interesting things
to say about Need links!:

She just meant Megan might now come on and rant at her for not hounding this
woman more.


Exactly.

--
"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be
doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.
:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
 




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