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"Kalyahna" wrote in message ... "Joe Pitt" wrote in message . .. I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that is SICK. A lot of shelters apparently have a reputation for euthanizing strays as soon as their legal holding period is over. NOT every shelter does this. Yes, this is true. I saw Duffy's picture and description on Petfinders, and it was clear that the picture had been there for some time. The description also said that animals were kept at that shelter for 14 days before being euthanized. I was fairly sure that it was too late, but I called anyway. Duffy was still alive! He had been at the shelter for 3 months, and shelter staff were doing everything possible to keep him (literally, to "shelter" him) until a home could be found. That turned out to be one of the best days of my life because I was able to adopt Duffy (and, I hope, one of the best days of *his* life). That animal shelter is going to receive a donation from me at Christmas in Duffy's honor. By the way, not every shelter still uses the time-limit criteria for euthanasia. On a more personal note (which explains why this subject is so intensely irritating), as a certified euthanasia tech, I helped with my first euth today. But he HAD those issues, and we cannot put a dog up for adoption that will bite if someone reaches toward his food dish, or distrusts men completely and barely trusts women. And he was euthanized. Not killed. You know why there's that difference in wording for the people who actually work in this field, Joe? Because frankly, if we look at it as killing, slaughtering, whatever you'd like to call it, it would be impossible for us to do. But if we call it euthanasia, we remember that we put them to sleep, end their suffering, and prevent injury to other animals and other people. We take on that emotional burden and the extra heartbreak that already fills a very emotionally difficult line of work. This is an excellent point. I once did inspections of our local animal shelter for the Humane Society, and I witnessed the process you just described. I was very impressed with the love and care I saw there. It was clearly painful to the staff when animals were euthanized, but the alternative would have been even worse. ~Kal. |
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:00:10 -0500, "Phil P." wrote: Maybe if everyone used the correct terms that describes exactly what it is, more people would be outraged and sickened enough to force legislation to eliminate it -- like mandatory neuter before adoption or sale (health permitting) and subsidize vets or give them a tax deduction for neutering all animals in their care regardless of the owners' consent or ability to pay. It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners' consent. If mandatory neutering was the law, vets would have no choice.... (health permitting). If they altered a champion dog that was part of a breeding program, there would be a major lawsuit. Vets would be protected by the law.... Btw, breeders are not very high on my list of priorities.... In fact, they're not even on it.... Phil |
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"Phil P." wrote in message
... "Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners' consent. There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead of declaw on resident cats. Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done. We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then. |
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You go, girl! I am glad you are one of those in the trenches of our public shelters. It's a tough tough job and certainly a thankless one. I look forward to more postings from you. Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus Cats www.campuscats.org |
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"Kalyahna" wrote in message ... "Phil P." wrote in message ... "Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... It would be great to get help with vet costs for altering pets, but no vet would ever go along with mandatory altering without owners' consent. There are low income assistance programs available at some shelters, and we've had some success in getting landlords to require spay/neuter instead of declaw on resident cats. Before we finalize an adoption to renters, we check with the landlord to make sure pets are allowed and if there are any conditions. We won't approve an adoption if the cat must be declawed. I've sent my declaw brochure to a few landlords who allowed only declawed and neutered cats... After reading the brochure, a few have changed their policies http://maxshouse.com/facts_about_declawing.htm http://maxshouse.com/Declaw_Brochure-2.pdf Print the fronts (page 1), tumble the paper and print the backs. Trim 1/4 in. off the long ends (landscape) - Its a triple-fold brochure that fits into #10 envelopes and plastic (credit card) application holders. Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. With early-age neutering becoming more popular with vets, kittens can now be neutered by the time they're ready for adoption. Phil |
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| Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is | made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I | know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the | animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done. | We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the | students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then. | When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered. Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it? Carola |
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I know the non profit no kill shelters will spay or neuter the animal
before adoption if possible, if not, then you can bring the animal in at a later time and have them altered for no additional adoption fee. I believe that our local Humane Society has the same policy. A friend of mine adopted from there and brought her cat back to be spayed. "M.C. Mullen" wrote in message ... | Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is | made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I | know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the | animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done. | We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the | students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then. | When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered. Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it? Carola |
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The SPCA in my area, Central Florida, stopped doing that. They found that
although there was no additional cost they animals weren't being altered. Then people brought in the kittens (and puppies) from the animal they were supposed to get altered. Now EVERYTHING is altered before going out the door. You pick out your new friend and come back in a day or two to pick them up. -- Joe http://www.jwpitt.com/cats.htm Cat Rescue http://www.animalrescuefoundation.com God created the cat so man could have the pleasure of petting the tiger "lakinapook" wrote in message om... I know the non profit no kill shelters will spay or neuter the animal before adoption if possible, if not, then you can bring the animal in at a later time and have them altered for no additional adoption fee. I believe that our local Humane Society has the same policy. A friend of mine adopted from there and brought her cat back to be spayed. "M.C. Mullen" wrote in message ... | Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is | made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I | know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the | animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done. | We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the | students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then. | When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered. Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it? Carola |
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I couldn't agree more, Phil. Society likes to come up with words to hide
what they don't want to think about. ....like "pro choice" instead of "killing". "Phil P." wrote in message ... "Joe Pitt" wrote in message . .. I attended a presentation about stopping the killing of cats (and dogs) in animal control facilities. He emphasised that you euthanize an animal that is SICK. What is happening in shelters all over is they are KILLING perfectly fine animals because they are unwanted, often due to the failure to spay and neuter their parents. The general public sees 'euthanized' and it softens what is happening in their minds. I see postings that say you adopted the day before the animal was due to be euthanized. Tell people you adopted just before the animal was due to be KILLED. It may seem a small thing, but when you talk to people it may help their awareness of the problem. Maybe if everyone used the correct terms that describes exactly what it is, more people would be outraged and sickened enough to force legislation to eliminate it -- like mandatory neuter before adoption or sale (health permiting) and subsidize vets or give them a tax deduction for neutering all animals in their care regardless of the owners' consent or ability to pay. I use the terms "excecute", "put to death", "slaughter"... because they stick in peoples' throats and are much harder to swallow than "put to sleep" or euthanize" or "put down". |
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Same with the City of Seattle shelter. They gave up the "prepaid" spay a couple of decades ago and moved to "early" sterilization, with kittens and puppies done by 8 weeks. (Younger animals are fostered until they are adoption age.) Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus Cats On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Joe Pitt wrote: The SPCA in my area, Central Florida, stopped doing that. They found that although there was no additional cost they animals weren't being altered. Then people brought in the kittens (and puppies) from the animal they were supposed to get altered. Now EVERYTHING is altered before going out the door. You pick out your new friend and come back in a day or two to pick them up. -- Joe http://www.jwpitt.com/cats.htm Cat Rescue http://www.animalrescuefoundation.com God created the cat so man could have the pleasure of petting the tiger "lakinapook" wrote in message om... I know the non profit no kill shelters will spay or neuter the animal before adoption if possible, if not, then you can bring the animal in at a later time and have them altered for no additional adoption fee. I believe that our local Humane Society has the same policy. A friend of mine adopted from there and brought her cat back to be spayed. "M.C. Mullen" wrote in message ... | Btw, I think most (if not all) large shelters DO alter before an animal is | made available for adoption, or at the very least before they go home. I | know a few middle-of-nowhere shelters that do this as well, even though the | animals have to be transported an hour each way to get the surgery done. | We're lucky enough to have a fantastic vet school in town, and some of the | students come in and even spay and neuter rats for us, now and then. | When I got our new cat at the shelter I was surprised to learn that the cats available were injected and wormed, yes, but only the males were neutered. Females and males were the same price though. Strange isn't it? Carola |
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