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Christina Websell wrote:
I would need it to be compatible with the wildlife streaming webcams I like to watch for a start. It almost always says not compatible with a Mac. They are good machines, but probably for the serious computer user who wants them to do other things apart from e-mailing and websurfing which is all I want mine for. And like you say, they are very expensive. There is another upside to Macs, they rarely get viruses. And it has GarageBand. Want! I have it on my iPod, but it's a pared-down version of the s/w, plus the interface is horrible. I keep doing stuff I don't intend to do because my fingers aren't coordinated enough. Or maybe they're just too big to touch the tiny icon that makes the program do something I want it to do, without it touching something else that makes it do something I don't want. A friend of mine brought her Apple laptop over and we fooled around with GarageBand - it was a blast. And fairly easy to use with a normal keyboard and mouse interface. -- Joyce "Yes, but humans are more important than animals," said Brutha. "This is a point of view often expressed by humans," said Om. (Small Gods) |
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Cheryl wrote:
On 2013-10-19 3:45 AM, Bastette wrote: lid wrote: "Christina Websell" wrote: My German friend has a Mac and wanted me to get one. I think not, they aren't compatable (sp?) with much, are they? What do you need it to be compatible with? They can read windows files if need be. They're very well made, the downside is they're much more expensive that a similar spec windows machine. They might be able to read Windows files, but the main problem is that most of the software being developed out there is for Windows and doesn't run on a Mac. Some programs have versions for both, but there are a lot of things you can't get for the Mac. At the same time, most of the *really cool* software is developed for the Mac. And one thing you don't get much of on the Mac is viruses. So I want one. I want both kinds, tbh. People who are used to Macs swear by them. I wouldn't switch - I'm so used to PCs that I find Macs (and their cousins, the I-this and that) very counter-intuitive and hate trying to use them. But of course, people used to Macs are the other way round and find PCs unpleasant to use. Macs have fewer virus problems, but less software (or used to); PCs are (or can be) much cheaper, but are maybe not as well made. People use whatever suits them best. I had a couple of Macs in the 90s, when I worked at Apple. Later, I had a job at another company. At first we used Macs, but after we were bought by Compaq, we all had to switch to PCs. I had never used Windows before, so that was a learning curve for me. But now I've used PCs for about 15 years and I'm used to that. In the meantime, Macs have changed a lot. The current operating system on the Mac is as foreign to me as it would be to someone who has never used a Mac. -- Joyce The problem with cats is that they get the exact same look on their face whether they see a moth or an axe-murderer. -- Paula Poundstone |
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Bastette wrote: So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find out, could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself. Try Acer, they were still selling new ones with Windows 7. I love mine. When you say "they" do you mean Acer itself? I've gone to both bestbuy.com and tigerdirect.com, and they aren't selling any Win7 machines that cheap. Did you buy a laptop or desktop? I've been looking at both. I've also been looking at W8 computers. I heard that Microsoft has made W8.1 available as a free upgrade, because (I assume) so many people complained about W8. I don't have any loyalty to W7 because I've never used it - I've just heard that W8 is terrible. Apparently W8.1 is a return to the W7 user interface.. I've used XP for several years, and befoer that, Windows 2000. I'm really old-school. What did you pay, if you don't mind saying, for your Acer? Thanks! -- Joyce When you finish, you have a complete (you hope) set of characters. So you call it a "character set". And because you're in a funny mood, instead of calling the numeric identifiers "numeric identifiers", you call them "code points". -- Steve Ferg, "Unicode Beginners Introduction for Dummies Made Simple" |
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Bobble wrote:
Bastette wrote: So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Try Acer, they were still selling new ones with Windows 7. I love mine. When you say "they" do you mean Acer itself? I've gone to both bestbuy.com and tigerdirect.com, and the W8 PCs are cheaper than the W7's. What does that tell you? BTW, did you buy a laptop or desktop? I've been looking at both. I've also been looking at W8 computers. I heard that Microsoft has made W8.1 available as a free upgrade, because (I assume) so many people complained about W8. I don't have any loyalty to W7 because I've never used it - I've just heard that W8 is terrible. Apparently W8.1 is a return to the W7 user interface.. I've used XP for several years, and befoer that, Windows 2000. I'm really old-school. What did you pay, if you don't mind saying, for your Acer? Thanks! -- Joyce When you finish, you have a complete (you hope) set of characters. So you call it a "character set". And because you're in a funny mood, instead of calling the numeric identifiers "numeric identifiers", you call them "code points". -- Steve Ferg, "Unicode Beginners Introduction for Dummies Made Simple" |
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 03:45:52 +0000 (UTC), Bastette
wrote: Bobble wrote: Bastette wrote: So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find out, could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself. Try Acer, they were still selling new ones with Windows 7. I love mine. When you say "they" do you mean Acer itself? I've gone to both bestbuy.com and tigerdirect.com, and they aren't selling any Win7 machines that cheap. Did you buy a laptop or desktop? I've been looking at both. I've also been looking at W8 computers. I heard that Microsoft has made W8.1 available as a free upgrade, because (I assume) so many people complained about W8. I don't have any loyalty to W7 because I've never used it - I've just heard that W8 is terrible. Apparently W8.1 is a return to the W7 user interface.. I've used XP for several years, and befoer that, Windows 2000. I'm really old-school. What did you pay, if you don't mind saying, for your Acer? Thanks! If you have to buy win8, you can get it to start from desktop mode. But it's still horrible. And no, 8.1 is not a reversion to Win 7 Get Ubuntu instead. Free. Get Win 7. Get a Mac. Anything but Win 8 |
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On 10/26/2013 12:17 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 03:49:16 +0000 (UTC), Bastette wrote: Bobble wrote: Bastette wrote: So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Try Acer, they were still selling new ones with Windows 7. I love mine. When you say "they" do you mean Acer itself? I've gone to both bestbuy.com and tigerdirect.com, and the W8 PCs are cheaper than the W7's. What does that tell you? BTW, did you buy a laptop or desktop? I've heard that if you buy a system with W8 on it, you CAN downgrade to W7 using the same serial number. And the majority of people claiming that W8.1 is better than W8 are usually reviewer who seem to have a vested interest, not regular users. MS will always let you downgrade but they won't provide the media. So if you can get your hands on an ISO or installation package, yes, you can downgrade. -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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On 10/25/2013 9:17 PM, The Other Guy wrote:
And the majority of people claiming that W8.1 is better than W8 are usually reviewer who seem to have a vested interest, not regular users. Well, here's one person who absolutely detests Windows 8. Those flashing, moving tiles on the god-awful Metro interface are enough to give one epilepsy. But 8.1 has been a vast improvement. I have it as a dual-boot setup on one laptop with 7, and previously had it as the 8 / 7 dual boot. I only went to the 8 partition when I wanted to marvel how bad it was. Now I have the default boot to 8.1, setup to avoid the Metro interface and go right to the desktop. I like it, and the speed improvement over 7 is remarkable. This 6 or 7 year old IBM laptop (I keep it because it has a 4:3 screen) will hibernate in 3-4 seconds. There are a few oddities that are somewhat vexing, but 8.1 seems to be a keeper. I might gradually move my other computers to it. Art |
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Cheryl wrote:
On 10/26/2013 12:17 AM, The Other Guy wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 03:49:16 +0000 (UTC), Bastette wrote: Bobble wrote: Bastette wrote: So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Try Acer, they were still selling new ones with Windows 7. I love mine. When you say "they" do you mean Acer itself? I've gone to both bestbuy.com and tigerdirect.com, and the W8 PCs are cheaper than the W7's. What does that tell you? BTW, did you buy a laptop or desktop? I've heard that if you buy a system with W8 on it, you CAN downgrade to W7 using the same serial number. And the majority of people claiming that W8.1 is better than W8 are usually reviewer who seem to have a vested interest, not regular users. MS will always let you downgrade but they won't provide the media. So if you can get your hands on an ISO or installation package, yes, you can downgrade. Media? -- Joyce The problem with cats is that they get the exact same look on their face whether they see a moth or an axe-murderer. -- Paula Poundstone |
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