OMG! One more reason to NOT declaw...

From: "Sharon"

I don't know! I don' travel home with those statistics on a daily basis.
All I can tell you, and you have to trust me on this, is that very few cats
are declawed at our practice each year. I've gone over this already and
shouldn't have to do it again.

Why declaw at all?
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Sharon wrote:
And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.
I understand your views and I sympathize. But a blind attack on my character
is uncalled for.

Yeah, very very few. I've heard of one or two cases where it was
justified. One was a cat that was tearing itself to pieces and nothing,
drugs, therapy, was making it stop (it wuold constantly scratch itself to
bleeding). Declawing made it so the cat could scratch all she wanted
without harming herself.

The other I wouldn't be for a full declawing but the cat had like seven
toes and one of them was inbetween toes with a claw that didn't retract
and obviously would constantly poke at the other toes.

Alice

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The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
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Sharon wrote:
And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.
I understand your views and I sympathize. But a blind attack on my character
is uncalled for.

Yeah, very very few. I've heard of one or two cases where it was
justified. One was a cat that was tearing itself to pieces and nothing,
drugs, therapy, was making it stop (it wuold constantly scratch itself to
bleeding). Declawing made it so the cat could scratch all she wanted
without harming herself.

The other I wouldn't be for a full declawing but the cat had like seven
toes and one of them was inbetween toes with a claw that didn't retract
and obviously would constantly poke at the other toes.

Alice

--
The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
|\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.

Sharon wrote:
It's the insinuation that vets are in it for the money that gets me. I wish.
Can't even begin to tell you how much we have given away in products and
services. House calls on lunch half hours, calls all night. It certainly

I don't think all vets that declaw are in it for the money, but I do think
there probably is a good amount that do.

I work for a vet and he most definitely is not trying to get the money
from people. He's never suggested it, but he never tells epople it's a bad
option if they ask for it (but he doesn't seem to mind me trying to
convince them to try other options). I wish he would but he is of
different opinion than me. And I'm sure he's not in it for the money when
I see him all time do things that most vets wouldn't (like he will let
people pay in payment plans even though he ends up with people who have
1000 dollars or so of debt that in the end leave him with that debt and
never pay him back, and he doesn't put them in collection as long as they
show him they're trying, even 20 dollars a month when they owe that
thousand dollars of debt).

Alice

--
The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
|\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.

Sharon wrote:
It's the insinuation that vets are in it for the money that gets me. I wish.
Can't even begin to tell you how much we have given away in products and
services. House calls on lunch half hours, calls all night. It certainly

I don't think all vets that declaw are in it for the money, but I do think
there probably is a good amount that do.

I work for a vet and he most definitely is not trying to get the money
from people. He's never suggested it, but he never tells epople it's a bad
option if they ask for it (but he doesn't seem to mind me trying to
convince them to try other options). I wish he would but he is of
different opinion than me. And I'm sure he's not in it for the money when
I see him all time do things that most vets wouldn't (like he will let
people pay in payment plans even though he ends up with people who have
1000 dollars or so of debt that in the end leave him with that debt and
never pay him back, and he doesn't put them in collection as long as they
show him they're trying, even 20 dollars a month when they owe that
thousand dollars of debt).

Alice

--
The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't
worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev
|\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress
|,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee.

-Sharon (vet-wifey who NEVER advocated routine declaws)

So exactly what kind of declawing do you advocate?

*Any* declaw performed for other than medical reasons is a routine declaw.

Sherry

-Sharon (vet-wifey who NEVER advocated routine declaws)

So exactly what kind of declawing do you advocate?

*Any* declaw performed for other than medical reasons is a routine declaw.

Sherry

From: (Sherry )

-Sharon (vet-wifey who NEVER advocated routine declaws)

So exactly what kind of declawing do you advocate?

*Any* declaw performed for other than medical reasons is a routine declaw.

Sherry

Exactly. I don't understand these vets who use the term "routine" as if it has
any meaning when it comes to declawing cats. Just another sick excuse.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Sherry )

-Sharon (vet-wifey who NEVER advocated routine declaws)

So exactly what kind of declawing do you advocate?

*Any* declaw performed for other than medical reasons is a routine declaw.

Sherry

Exactly. I don't understand these vets who use the term "routine" as if it has
any meaning when it comes to declawing cats. Just another sick excuse.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Sherry )

I am not tearing you apart. I once again *invite* you to post proof that
those articles from the Journal of American Veterinary Medicine Asso. are
not being fairly quoted with a nearly 20% complication rate. That's it. Post
that evidence and I'll listen. BTW how did the fix on the botched declaw job
some vet did on that other cat that was set for Monday go for your husband?

Karen

I followed the thread on the other newsgroups. I'm sure everyone else also
saw
Karen post reference after reference, and saw Sharon repeatedly asked to do
the
same. She never offered anything further than anecotal evidence or "my
husband
saids." I'm sure she has access to even more than Karen does, yet she never
posted a thing.

Sherry

Obviously she can't back up what she says so chooses to ignore the questions
asked of her.
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm