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Churchill's Lessons of History
I had unsubscribed but decided to come back. I'm not going to engage in flame wars. I noted more than a few replies to my thead; I posted it as a clever joke. I'm not the only one who thinks Romney is evasive about how he's going to pay for all the money problems our nation has. I'm an ordinary citizen, and I want what is best for all of us. Anyway, being a Brit, I have always admired Churchill, and I know some of you will be interested in his "Lessons of History". Read and heed: 1. Despite the importance of doing so, we do not learn from history. 2. Science and technology cannot immunize us from history's lessons. 3. Freedom, which Americans believe is longed for by people worldwide, is not a globally shared value. By contrast, desire for power, whether wielded as a despot, or as a benevolent empire or superpower, is a universal value. 4. Known as the cradle of civilization, the Middle East has also been the graveyard of empires, no matter what their intention, as the Romans and so many others have learned. 5. America will experience the same ultimate destiny as the memorable democracies, republics, and superpowers of the past. 6. Religion and spirituality—and the lust for power—are the most profound motivators in history. 7. Nations and empires rise and fall not because of anonymous social and economic forces but because of decisions made by individuals. 8. A true statesman possesses four qualities: a bedrock of principles, a moral compass, a vision, and the ability to build consensus to achieve that vision. BTW, Churchill loved cats: http://www.winstonchurchill.org/supp...line-menagerie -- |
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
I had unsubscribed but decided to come back. I'm not going to engage in flame wars..... How the hell can you avoid them? If I post that 2 + 2 = 4 on this forum, there will appear some ass hole who gives me an argument about it. |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:34:19 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: I had unsubscribed but decided to come back. I'm not going to engage in flame wars..... How the hell can you avoid them? If I post that 2 + 2 = 4 on this forum, there will appear some ass hole who gives me an argument about it. Nah, it's the name-calling and descent into personal attacks that I want to avoid. Somebody insults me personally, then I will insult them, because they are not worth a rational debate. Just my personal feelings; I know there are those that thrive on flame wars, and depending on the group, I might participate if I get disgusted enough. -- |
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:34:19 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: I had unsubscribed but decided to come back. I'm not going to engage in flame wars..... How the hell can you avoid them? If I post that 2 + 2 = 4 on this forum, there will appear some ass hole who gives me an argument about it. Nah, it's the name-calling and descent into personal attacks that I want to avoid. Somebody insults me personally, then I will insult them, because they are not worth a rational debate. Just my personal feelings; I know there are those that thrive on flame wars, and depending on the group, I might participate if I get disgusted enough. In the long run, it is a waste of time. No one has ever been convinced of anything by being insulted. If you are trying to conmvince someone that your point of vies is valid, only continue to do so with rational arguments. Beyoned that, you are much better off just terminating the discussion and pick up some other subject to discuss with someone else. I sit here and try to give people the knowlege I have picked up during my 77 years of living. But if they don't want to learn anything from me, there is no reason why I should waste my time with them. Certainly screaming, "YOU IDIOT!!" at them can't accomplish any purpose whatsoever. Far better to just state what you have to say, and then bow out. |
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Someone said: I'm not the only one who thinks Romney is evasive about how he's going to pay for all the money problems our nation has. Of course he's, "evasive". Nobody can possibly get rid of a 16+ trillion dollar debt in 8 years or less. He's evasive because he hasn't a clue how to do the impossible, but the stupid voting public in this country will only be happy with someone who tells them that he will be able to do just that. The only thing worse than lying politicians is a voting public that forces them to lie..... |
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FragSinatra wrote:
Don't like CHristianity? Then **** off to a muslo-nazi state and never be bothered by Christians, Hindus, Jews, Bahais or Sikhs ever again. How do I get away from all of them? Do you know what its like to have to spend your whole life with a bunch of idiots that are willing to give their lives for some non-existent boogy man in the sky? I keep running to one hiding place or another hoping these idiots won't find and kill me as an offering.... |
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"Bill Graham" wrote in
: FragSinatra wrote: Don't like CHristianity? Then **** off to a muslo-nazi state and never be bothered by Christians, Hindus, Jews, Bahais or Sikhs ever again. How do I get away from all of them? Do you know what its like to have to spend your whole life with a bunch of idiots that are willing to give their lives for some non-existent boogy man in the sky? I keep running to one hiding place or another hoping these idiots won't find and kill me as an offering.... There's only ONE religion currently slaughtering, enslaving, raping and kidnapping people of other faiths in the name of their death god all over the world, today, in the here and now. In Iran, one of the first groups rounded up and disappeared following the Islamic Revolution were Communists. I predict Christianity will be completely eradicated from the Mid-East and N. Africa sometime this century, w/the possible exception being Israel. Anyone who thinks Islam is at all peaceful or tolerant should try wearing a kippah and tallits publicly in any Islamic state. They better make sure their life insurance is paid up and their will made out first. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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FragSinatra wrote:
"Bill Graham" wrote in : FragSinatra wrote: Don't like CHristianity? Then **** off to a muslo-nazi state and never be bothered by Christians, Hindus, Jews, Bahais or Sikhs ever again. How do I get away from all of them? Do you know what its like to have to spend your whole life with a bunch of idiots that are willing to give their lives for some non-existent boogy man in the sky? I keep running to one hiding place or another hoping these idiots won't find and kill me as an offering.... There's only ONE religion currently slaughtering, enslaving, raping and kidnapping people of other faiths in the name of their death god all over the world, today, in the here and now. In Iran, one of the first groups rounded up and disappeared following the Islamic Revolution were Communists. I predict Christianity will be completely eradicated from the Mid-East and N. Africa sometime this century, w/the possible exception being Israel. Anyone who thinks Islam is at all peaceful or tolerant should try wearing a kippah and tallits publicly in any Islamic state. They better make sure their life insurance is paid up and their will made out first. I have no use for it either, but then, I have little use for any religion, with the possible exception of those who support charitable efforts. On of my favorite charities is also supported by the Catholics, I believe. In general, religion has been responsible for most of the wars and mass murderings on this planet since the dawn of mankind. Its death record is onloy surpassed by its Gods, who, (presumably) have been around since they created everything, and have been murdering the little creatures for billions of years...... |
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"Bill Graham" wrote in
: FragSinatra wrote: "Bill Graham" wrote in : FragSinatra wrote: Don't like CHristianity? Then **** off to a muslo-nazi state and never be bothered by Christians, Hindus, Jews, Bahais or Sikhs ever again. How do I get away from all of them? Do you know what its like to have to spend your whole life with a bunch of idiots that are willing to give their lives for some non-existent boogy man in the sky? I keep running to one hiding place or another hoping these idiots won't find and kill me as an offering.... There's only ONE religion currently slaughtering, enslaving, raping and kidnapping people of other faiths in the name of their death god all over the world, today, in the here and now. In Iran, one of the first groups rounded up and disappeared following the Islamic Revolution were Communists. I predict Christianity will be completely eradicated from the Mid-East and N. Africa sometime this century, w/the possible exception being Israel. Anyone who thinks Islam is at all peaceful or tolerant should try wearing a kippah and tallits publicly in any Islamic state. They better make sure their life insurance is paid up and their will made out first. I have no use for it either, but then, I have little use for any religion, with the possible exception of those who support charitable efforts. On of my favorite charities is also supported by the Catholics, I believe. In general, religion has been responsible for most of the wars and mass murderings on this planet since the dawn of mankind. Its death record is onloy surpassed by its Gods, who, (presumably) have been around since they created everything, and have been murdering the little creatures for billions of years...... I can say with conviction that neither Yeshua nor Buddha EVER advocated for the persecution or murder of anyone ever, much less had anyone murdered in their name. All religions are not the same. The Spanish Inqusition was a picnic in comparison to what the muslims did and are doing in the Indian sub-continent. Take a look at jihadwatch.com some day and read the daily litany of islamic atrocities and persecution, the ones the MSM doesn't bother to report. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Sylvia M wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
And this all has something to do about 'cats' or 'health'. I grant you 'behavior', but isn't there a political newsgroup ? There is. They feel that they can do what they want. I KF'ed both. -- |
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