China Confirms Case, Begins Civet Cat Cull

itter (MacCandace) wrote in message ...
But at least with the calves you are not killing off a wild animal in
hopes of making it extinct.

Good point.

True, but they all feel pain and fear and want to live, wild or not. I kept
thinking about the cows all day, how sad. I suppose most of them would have
been slaughtered for meat anyway but I (as a vegetarian) don't like that either
but this seems worse. Poor things. I imagine they will be killed more cruelly
than usual since there are so many to do at once.

Cows are already slaughterd at an alarming rate - one about every 3-6
seconds in each slaughter line. I don't think they *could* speed it
up if they had to.

-L.

itter (MacCandace) wrote in message ...
But at least with the calves you are not killing off a wild animal in
hopes of making it extinct.

Good point.

True, but they all feel pain and fear and want to live, wild or not. I kept
thinking about the cows all day, how sad. I suppose most of them would have
been slaughtered for meat anyway but I (as a vegetarian) don't like that either
but this seems worse. Poor things. I imagine they will be killed more cruelly
than usual since there are so many to do at once.

Cows are already slaughterd at an alarming rate - one about every 3-6
seconds in each slaughter line. I don't think they *could* speed it
up if they had to.

-L.

itter (MacCandace) wrote in message ...
But at least with the calves you are not killing off a wild animal in
hopes of making it extinct.

Good point.

True, but they all feel pain and fear and want to live, wild or not. I kept
thinking about the cows all day, how sad. I suppose most of them would have
been slaughtered for meat anyway but I (as a vegetarian) don't like that either
but this seems worse. Poor things. I imagine they will be killed more cruelly
than usual since there are so many to do at once.

Cows are already slaughterd at an alarming rate - one about every 3-6
seconds in each slaughter line. I don't think they *could* speed it
up if they had to.

-L.

I couldn't stand to think about the terror those
animals were feeling. Even if they were just skunks.

Sherry

Maybe if we all pray or send positive thoughts that their deaths will be
peaceful...the civet cats and the cows. There's something to be said for the
collective consciousness...hokey as it may sound, it can't hurt to wish them
well as they die.

Candace

Absolutely, and it's not hokey at all. That's what I'm doing. Thanks Candace.
This really bothers me, probably more than it even should, given the fact that
I can't do anything more about it.
Sherry

I couldn't stand to think about the terror those
animals were feeling. Even if they were just skunks.

Sherry

Maybe if we all pray or send positive thoughts that their deaths will be
peaceful...the civet cats and the cows. There's something to be said for the
collective consciousness...hokey as it may sound, it can't hurt to wish them
well as they die.

Candace

Absolutely, and it's not hokey at all. That's what I'm doing. Thanks Candace.
This really bothers me, probably more than it even should, given the fact that
I can't do anything more about it.
Sherry

Same with the civets;
they're not going to kill them humanely in a place like China.


What I don't understand about the civets, even putting aside that the link
between the coronavirus in civets and SARS has not even been confirmed, is why
they can't just stop eating them rather than killing them. Are these civets
being raised for food rather than animals in the wild?

Same with the civets;
they're not going to kill them humanely in a place like China.


What I don't understand about the civets, even putting aside that the link
between the coronavirus in civets and SARS has not even been confirmed, is why
they can't just stop eating them rather than killing them. Are these civets
being raised for food rather than animals in the wild?

What I don't understand about the civets, even putting aside that the link
between the coronavirus in civets and SARS has not even been confirmed, is why
they can't just stop eating them rather than killing them. Are these civets
being raised for food rather than animals in the wild?

Perhaps I'll be flamed for this but my significant other goes to India now and
then on business and he likes it there. On the other hand, his boss goes to
China for business sometimes and has told Tony that it's very strange
there...he never sees any animals wandering around (India being the far extreme
where there are animals and people everywhere) and never hears or sees any
birds. I guess we can draw whatever conclusions we want from that. He has
also reported that when his hosts take him out to dinner, they eat things he
finds exceedingly disgusting such as sheep eyeballs. Tony is hoping he never
has to take over the China route and can just stick with India. He said the
animals roaming the streets actually look better than a lot of the people.
They seem to be well fed, even the stray dogs that are everywhere (this is in
Mumbai, formerly Bombay).

My point being that I suppose if the civet cats are not fit to eat that they
would consider there is no point in them existing at all.


Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

What I don't understand about the civets, even putting aside that the link
between the coronavirus in civets and SARS has not even been confirmed, is why
they can't just stop eating them rather than killing them. Are these civets
being raised for food rather than animals in the wild?

Perhaps I'll be flamed for this but my significant other goes to India now and
then on business and he likes it there. On the other hand, his boss goes to
China for business sometimes and has told Tony that it's very strange
there...he never sees any animals wandering around (India being the far extreme
where there are animals and people everywhere) and never hears or sees any
birds. I guess we can draw whatever conclusions we want from that. He has
also reported that when his hosts take him out to dinner, they eat things he
finds exceedingly disgusting such as sheep eyeballs. Tony is hoping he never
has to take over the China route and can just stick with India. He said the
animals roaming the streets actually look better than a lot of the people.
They seem to be well fed, even the stray dogs that are everywhere (this is in
Mumbai, formerly Bombay).

My point being that I suppose if the civet cats are not fit to eat that they
would consider there is no point in them existing at all.


Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

MacCandace wrote:

But at least with the calves you are not killing off a wild animal in
hopes of making it extinct.

Good point.

True, but they all feel pain and fear and want to live, wild or not.

Right. An animal has no concept of itself as "threatened", "endangered"
or "food animal". The labels are human artifice. We designate value to
animals only when we have driven or are about to drive them to
extinction.

Whether steer, civet, orangantan or human, we all die the only way we
can, one by one.