Food Question

"GAUBSTER2" wrote in message
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From: "Jon C"

Wellness has very low phosphorus and calcium levels, as well as almost 0
carbohydrates. That's something your beloved Science Diet can't claim.

What's wrong w/ carbs? Are you a carbophobic??

What do you think the phosphorus and calcium levels are on a dry matter
basis?

Wellness Turkey and Salmon has a phosphorus level of 0.88% and the Chicken
and Salmon has a phosphorus level of 0.91%. Both are well below the
oft-quoted 0.98% maximum recommended phosphorus level.

They don't have non-specific by-products, and have a small fraction of the
carbs of Science Diet. Specifically, 16-20% of Science Diet's (maintenance)
calories come from carbs. 2% of Wellness Turkey and Salmon's come from
carbs. Read the article zuzu22 linked to you, and you'll understand why
that's a good thing.

So what advantage, exactly, does Science Diet have over Wellness? What's
bad about having few carbs? Steve made a good argument for carbs being more
or less ok at http://tinyurl.com/2bhga but even he never said they were a
great thing to have, either. He cautioned against going low or no carb
without looking at other things like phosphorus, but if you can have your
cake....

Jon

Thank you Karen, I was really starting to feel guilty about what I was
feeding them. Come tax time I'll load up on the quality stuff lol..........

Christina

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http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Karen M." wrote in message
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Christina wrote:
I actually buy Ol Roy for my bassett hound (whereas she used to get
Purina
Beneful), but money is so tight that we've had to make many changes. We
have a family of six, two cats and one dog and are having a hard time
just
keeping the utilities on which is why I ended up buying the Walmart
brands.
I realize I shouldn't have taken on the responsibility for two cats, but
the
lady who was fostering them made me feel guilty for not taking both
since
they were brothers, so my husband and I adopted both of them even though
we
were intending to get one kitten.

Anyway, they seem to love it and drink plenty of water, but I'm curious
if
anyone in the group knows why the walmart brand is known as the worst
brand
to give your pet.

Thanks for all of your help it's much appreciated.

Christina

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http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
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Christina wrote:

Hi Sue and thanks for the advice! If you read my response to Lauren,

you'll

see that I have been buying Walmart brand "Special Kitty". Can you
tell

me

about how much a bag of Purina ONE costs? Thank you!!

I think a seven pound bag costs about seven dollars at Wal-Mart.
It could cost more or less where you live. Wal-Mart checks prices at
other local stores to be sure their prices are lower. (It's called
"comping," if you care!)

"Special Kitty" is probably one of the worst brands to buy, IMHO. Same
for the "Ol' Roy" Wal-Mart brand of dog food.

8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~

"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson
************************************************ *
http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/




Christina, Feed whatever you can afford. Wal-Mart's Ol'Roy and others
don't use quality ingredients, that's why they are so cheap. But as long
as your pets are eating it and if that's all you can afford, then that's
all you can do. I'm sure your kitties would rather be in a loving home
than in a shelter, right? When your finances improve, then you can start
changing their diet.

Thank you Karen, I was really starting to feel guilty about what I was
feeding them. Come tax time I'll load up on the quality stuff lol..........

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Karen M." wrote in message
...
Christina wrote:
I actually buy Ol Roy for my bassett hound (whereas she used to get
Purina
Beneful), but money is so tight that we've had to make many changes. We
have a family of six, two cats and one dog and are having a hard time
just
keeping the utilities on which is why I ended up buying the Walmart
brands.
I realize I shouldn't have taken on the responsibility for two cats, but
the
lady who was fostering them made me feel guilty for not taking both
since
they were brothers, so my husband and I adopted both of them even though
we
were intending to get one kitten.

Anyway, they seem to love it and drink plenty of water, but I'm curious
if
anyone in the group knows why the walmart brand is known as the worst
brand
to give your pet.

Thanks for all of your help it's much appreciated.

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...

Christina wrote:

Hi Sue and thanks for the advice! If you read my response to Lauren,

you'll

see that I have been buying Walmart brand "Special Kitty". Can you
tell

me

about how much a bag of Purina ONE costs? Thank you!!

I think a seven pound bag costs about seven dollars at Wal-Mart.
It could cost more or less where you live. Wal-Mart checks prices at
other local stores to be sure their prices are lower. (It's called
"comping," if you care!)

"Special Kitty" is probably one of the worst brands to buy, IMHO. Same
for the "Ol' Roy" Wal-Mart brand of dog food.

8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~

"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson
************************************************ *
http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/




Christina, Feed whatever you can afford. Wal-Mart's Ol'Roy and others
don't use quality ingredients, that's why they are so cheap. But as long
as your pets are eating it and if that's all you can afford, then that's
all you can do. I'm sure your kitties would rather be in a loving home
than in a shelter, right? When your finances improve, then you can start
changing their diet.

Thank you Karen, I was really starting to feel guilty about what I was
feeding them. Come tax time I'll load up on the quality stuff lol..........

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Karen M." wrote in message
...
Christina wrote:
I actually buy Ol Roy for my bassett hound (whereas she used to get
Purina
Beneful), but money is so tight that we've had to make many changes. We
have a family of six, two cats and one dog and are having a hard time
just
keeping the utilities on which is why I ended up buying the Walmart
brands.
I realize I shouldn't have taken on the responsibility for two cats, but
the
lady who was fostering them made me feel guilty for not taking both
since
they were brothers, so my husband and I adopted both of them even though
we
were intending to get one kitten.

Anyway, they seem to love it and drink plenty of water, but I'm curious
if
anyone in the group knows why the walmart brand is known as the worst
brand
to give your pet.

Thanks for all of your help it's much appreciated.

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html
"Suzie-Q" wrote in message
...

Christina wrote:

Hi Sue and thanks for the advice! If you read my response to Lauren,

you'll

see that I have been buying Walmart brand "Special Kitty". Can you
tell

me

about how much a bag of Purina ONE costs? Thank you!!

I think a seven pound bag costs about seven dollars at Wal-Mart.
It could cost more or less where you live. Wal-Mart checks prices at
other local stores to be sure their prices are lower. (It's called
"comping," if you care!)

"Special Kitty" is probably one of the worst brands to buy, IMHO. Same
for the "Ol' Roy" Wal-Mart brand of dog food.

8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
~~~~~~

"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson
************************************************ *
http://www.suzanne-eckhardt.com/
http://www.intergnat.com/malebashing/




Christina, Feed whatever you can afford. Wal-Mart's Ol'Roy and others
don't use quality ingredients, that's why they are so cheap. But as long
as your pets are eating it and if that's all you can afford, then that's
all you can do. I'm sure your kitties would rather be in a loving home
than in a shelter, right? When your finances improve, then you can start
changing their diet.

From: "Christina"

Lauren LOVE the photos of the cats...they are so cute!!! The one of him
hanging from the chair is hilarious!!!

Thanks so much, Christina!!

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Christina"

Lauren LOVE the photos of the cats...they are so cute!!! The one of him
hanging from the chair is hilarious!!!

Thanks so much, Christina!!

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Christina"

Lauren LOVE the photos of the cats...they are so cute!!! The one of him
hanging from the chair is hilarious!!!

Thanks so much, Christina!!

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"


In ,
composed with style:
Gaubster2 Wrote:
snip mindless drivel

In fact, *you've* done
quite a bit of namecalling, and often in the same post where you
complain about it.

Heh. That's given me a few chuckles, time and again.

You've provided nothing but dead links or links
that do nothing to back up your claims, and even when proved wrong,
continued to claim that Wellness contains ingredients from feces,
which is absolutely and unequivocally untrue.

Don't forget to mention that when asked to back up his claims, his
canned response is "call the manufacturer yourself".


Oh yeah, that one for sure, LOL. Maybe he should have it embroidered on his
t-shirt. I just love it when I suggested a few foods for Christina how
Gaubster, without knowing anything about the foods, stated that their
calcium/phosphorous levels were too high. His idiocy knows no bounds.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"


In ,
composed with style:
Gaubster2 Wrote:
snip mindless drivel

In fact, *you've* done
quite a bit of namecalling, and often in the same post where you
complain about it.

Heh. That's given me a few chuckles, time and again.

You've provided nothing but dead links or links
that do nothing to back up your claims, and even when proved wrong,
continued to claim that Wellness contains ingredients from feces,
which is absolutely and unequivocally untrue.

Don't forget to mention that when asked to back up his claims, his
canned response is "call the manufacturer yourself".


Oh yeah, that one for sure, LOL. Maybe he should have it embroidered on his
t-shirt. I just love it when I suggested a few foods for Christina how
Gaubster, without knowing anything about the foods, stated that their
calcium/phosphorous levels were too high. His idiocy knows no bounds.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Cheryl"


In ,
composed with style:
Gaubster2 Wrote:
snip mindless drivel

In fact, *you've* done
quite a bit of namecalling, and often in the same post where you
complain about it.

Heh. That's given me a few chuckles, time and again.

You've provided nothing but dead links or links
that do nothing to back up your claims, and even when proved wrong,
continued to claim that Wellness contains ingredients from feces,
which is absolutely and unequivocally untrue.

Don't forget to mention that when asked to back up his claims, his
canned response is "call the manufacturer yourself".


Oh yeah, that one for sure, LOL. Maybe he should have it embroidered on his
t-shirt. I just love it when I suggested a few foods for Christina how
Gaubster, without knowing anything about the foods, stated that their
calcium/phosphorous levels were too high. His idiocy knows no bounds.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm