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Old September 14th 04, 08:14 PM
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Kaeli wrote:

I think we're going to go with a variety
of wet food in the morning and afternoon
and leave them some dry overnight.


If you stop leaving dry food out at night your cats will start eating
all the canned you give them because they won't have been snacking all
night and will have a good appetitie. It does take a little time while
you're transitioning but they figure it out.


Tried that. You probably didn't read the other post (it was a few days ago I
think) where I was lamenting that I had to leave it for them because I was
worried they would get fatty liver.
They didn't eat for a whole 36 hours. I got worried. Jeffrey is fat enough
that I worried about FLS with him not eating. Isis is fine. Rowan is too thin
already (she's my sickly baby who has a recurring URI).

I don't leave enough dry for them to get full; just enough so they do
actually eat something for the day if they haven't. They scream at me in the
morning for more food and chow if I give them something they like, so I
figure they're hungry.


Giving them some cooked chicken hearts and gizzards will accomplish this
much better and won't leave a starchy goo stuck to their teeth. :-)


Rowan will eat cooked beef (she loves my tacos). The other two won't eat any
meat that I've tried to give them, cooked or raw.
We tried beef heart, chicken heart, chicken gizzards, cooked ground beef, and
cooked chicken muscle meat. They won't eat canned fish of any kind, including
tuna.
I have odd cats.


What is your definition of good stuff?


Anything they'll eat that costs more than $1 a pound dry and more then .50 a
can wet.
*smile*

I think you mentioned SD,


They hate SD, IAMS, and Innova.

Here's what we've tried...

Paws up for dry:
Chicken Soup Cat Lovers
Royal Canin
Pro Plan
Nutro Max Cat
Nutro Natural Choice
Anything that qualifies as Kitty Micky Ds (cat chow, 9-lives, etc)

Paws up for wet:
Most Fancy Feast flavors (no sliced)
Some Friskies flavors (mostly the shredded)
Some Pro Plan flavors (only kinds with no chunks)
Meow Mix packets (most flavors, not the fish)

Paws down for wet:
9-lives
Wiskas
Wellness
IAMS
Innova
Nutro Max Cat
Nutro Natural Choice


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Old September 14th 04, 08:45 PM
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We got a can of anything Whole Foods
had.


Whole Foods doesn't carry Wellness, so it's likely you haven't tried it.

Megan



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We got a can of anything Whole Foods
had.


Whole Foods doesn't carry Wellness, so it's likely you haven't tried it.

Megan



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Old September 14th 04, 08:55 PM
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Kaeli,
Have faith. Just because it's not happening quickly doesn't mean you
won't succeed. I have dealt with this too and the article you read also
has very good tips for transitioning from dry to wet. I have a cat I
rescued early this year and I could not get her to eat any wet food so I
had to start out giving her high quality dry. I just kept trying and
finally I got her to eat one flavor and over the next few months I just
kept adding little bits of this and that and we're at the point now that
she's eating 6 different premium canned foods. If you have to do more
dry and less canned right now, then that's what you have to do. Just
keep sneaking in a little more canned and a little less dry and changing
the flavors so they get used to *not* eating the exact same thing every
day. It's difficult to undo things sometimes, but it is not impossible!
:-)

Megan



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elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
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Kaeli,
Have faith. Just because it's not happening quickly doesn't mean you
won't succeed. I have dealt with this too and the article you read also
has very good tips for transitioning from dry to wet. I have a cat I
rescued early this year and I could not get her to eat any wet food so I
had to start out giving her high quality dry. I just kept trying and
finally I got her to eat one flavor and over the next few months I just
kept adding little bits of this and that and we're at the point now that
she's eating 6 different premium canned foods. If you have to do more
dry and less canned right now, then that's what you have to do. Just
keep sneaking in a little more canned and a little less dry and changing
the flavors so they get used to *not* eating the exact same thing every
day. It's difficult to undo things sometimes, but it is not impossible!
:-)

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old September 14th 04, 10:16 PM
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Steve Crane wrote:

Here's the decision you must make.
Do I feed a food with excesses of phosphorus in order to justify some
other emotional need/desire/preference I have, even when that
need/desire/preference cannot be proven to show any benefit?


According to the lists at
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/dryfood.html
The chicken, turkey, chicken & herring, and turkey & salmon
flavors of Wellness don't have significantly more phosphorus
than most of the varieties of Science Diet. The mixed seafood
flavors have more, but so do a few of the Science Diet dry varieties.

My cats (now 13 and 17) were on Science Diet dry most of their lives,
until LeMieux was diagnosed diabetic in January. They ate Adult
Maintenance for many years, and then Sensitive Stomach. (a 20 lb
bag's worth of Lite and Senior at different periods caused them both
to get noticably fatter, and develop large amounts of dander.)

LeMieux (13) maintains normal bg (80 to 115) on Wellness canned.
I tried Science Diet and Iams canned kitten food for several weeks
(recommended by the vet as low-carb) when LeMieux was first diagnosed,
but while they enjoyed both as a new treat for the first week or so,
after that they both sniffed it when I put it out, and then avoided
eating it for several hours until they were too hungry not to.
I haven't had that reaction to the Wellness, which also smells a LOT
better than the Science Diet and Iams, and has less carb content.

BTW, Hills prescription M/D canned is higher in carb than Science
Diet canned kitten food. Why?

Gideon developed a bladder full of struvite crystals on the Science
Diet dry. Fortunately, he never developed a blockage, but because
his developing hyperthyroid caused him to drink and urinate more,
he didn't have any obvious symptoms of bloody or concentrated urine,
and he never broke litterbox training. His only obvious symptom
was walking stiffly, and he was misdiagnosed as arthritic by my
previous vet. The new vet took an X-ray to check, and found no sign
of arthritis, but his bladder on the X-ray looked like it was *full*
of fishtank gravel. Between the extra drinking from the hyperthyroid,
and the Wellness diet, he managed to dissolve or excrete all but a
marble-sized cluster of crystals before his pre-op X-ray (the vet
was really surprised) so we cancelled the bladder surgery that was
to be done along with the thyroid and dental.

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