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  #31  
Old February 3rd 13, 09:52 PM posted to alt.talk.creationism,us.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 04:38:12 -0800, SpamBuster
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On 2/3/2013 11:08 AM, Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
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Old February 3rd 13, 11:03 PM posted to alt.talk.creationism,alt.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 2/3/2013 6:01 PM, Bill Graham wrote:


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Old February 3rd 13, 11:04 PM posted to alt.talk.creationism,alt.spam,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Old February 3rd 13, 11:05 PM posted to alt.talk.creationism,alt.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 2/3/2013 6:01 PM, Bill Graham wrote:




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Old February 4th 13, 02:01 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,can.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw

Karen

Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow
right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose
to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat.
And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and
make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West
is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't
expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think
we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much
emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even
be allowed to eat them. ANY of them.



IBen


It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality
of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in
that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and
made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian,
and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But
I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives
before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I
eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to
roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part
of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life
that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that
counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to
make them suffer before then is very wrong.


Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on
Google Groups. Therefore......



\|||/
(o o)
,--oo0--------------.
| Please |
| Don't Feed |
| The TROLLs |
'--------------oo0---'
|__| |__|
|| ||
ooO Ooo


Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we
are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every
year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and
discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why
is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian
and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this
question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my
lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens?

  #36  
Old February 4th 13, 02:11 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,can.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Mack A. Damia
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw

Karen

Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow
right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose
to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat.
And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and
make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West
is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't
expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think
we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much
emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even
be allowed to eat them. ANY of them.



IBen

It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality
of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in
that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and
made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian,
and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But
I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives
before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I
eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to
roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part
of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life
that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that
counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to
make them suffer before then is very wrong.


Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on
Google Groups. Therefore......



\|||/
(o o)
,--oo0--------------.
| Please |
| Don't Feed |
| The TROLLs |
'--------------oo0---'
|__| |__|
|| ||
ooO Ooo


Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we
are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every
year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and
discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why
is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian
and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this
question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my
lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens?


Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not
alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may
vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others.

There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin,
a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and
grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry
are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not.

--


  #37  
Old February 4th 13, 02:24 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,can.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Bill Graham
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw

Karen

Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow
right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose
to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat.
And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk
and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the
West is the part of the world affected by total feminization,
don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They
think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them.
Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we
won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them.



IBen

It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality
of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties
in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny
cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a
vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities
to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead
happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed
for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef
that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were
killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre
OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of
life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed
well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is
very wrong.

Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on
Google Groups. Therefore......



\|||/
(o o)
,--oo0--------------.
| Please |
| Don't Feed |
| The TROLLs |
'--------------oo0---'
|__| |__|
|| ||
ooO Ooo


Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat
eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions
of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating
cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a
chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat
one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes
in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats
are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me
the right to treat them better than chickens?


Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not
alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may
vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others.

There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin,
a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and
grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry
are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not.


Not here in the USA, you mean. But in China, they obviously are. And in a
world where all of us have to live in peace and harmony together, (as the
liberals envision) how are we to handle the Chinese propensity to raise and
kill cats for food?

  #38  
Old February 4th 13, 02:40 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,can.politics,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Mack A. Damia
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:24:52 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw

Karen

Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow
right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose
to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat.
And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk
and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the
West is the part of the world affected by total feminization,
don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They
think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them.
Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we
won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them.



IBen

It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality
of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties
in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny
cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a
vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities
to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead
happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed
for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef
that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were
killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre
OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of
life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed
well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is
very wrong.

Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on
Google Groups. Therefore......



\|||/
(o o)
,--oo0--------------.
| Please |
| Don't Feed |
| The TROLLs |
'--------------oo0---'
|__| |__|
|| ||
ooO Ooo

Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat
eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions
of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating
cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a
chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat
one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes
in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats
are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me
the right to treat them better than chickens?


Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not
alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may
vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others.

There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin,
a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and
grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry
are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not.


Not here in the USA, you mean. But in China, they obviously are. And in a
world where all of us have to live in peace and harmony together, (as the
liberals envision) how are we to handle the Chinese propensity to raise and
kill cats for food?


We don't. It's their culture. If you mean Chinese-Americans, then I
think there are local laws against that sort of thing. It's probably
done - but then so is cockfighting, a "sport" deeply engrained in
Hispanic culture. It's still a crime, though. All we can do is
support law enforcement whenever we can.

--


  #39  
Old February 4th 13, 03:13 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,alt.spam,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 2/3/2013 8:43 PM, IBen Getiner wrote:

a double-edged sword contrary to that insane vision: IGNORE IT.



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Old February 4th 13, 03:13 AM posted to alt.talk.creationism,alt.spam,rec.food.cooking,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On 2/3/2013 8:41 PM, IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:01 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote:
IBenGetinerwrote:
On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote:



SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - or COUNTRY
 




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