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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 04:38:12 -0800, SpamBuster
wrote: On 2/3/2013 11:08 AM, Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - &/OR COUNTRY SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - OR COUNTRY Buzz off, ****wit. -- |
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On 2/3/2013 6:01 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS / COUNTRY |
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On 2/3/2013 10:20 AM, Bill Graham wrote:
SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS / COUNTRY |
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On 2/3/2013 6:01 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS / COUNTRY |
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: IBen Getiner wrote: On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw Karen Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat. And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them. IBen It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is very wrong. Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on Google Groups. Therefore...... \|||/ (o o) ,--oo0--------------. | Please | | Don't Feed | | The TROLLs | '--------------oo0---' |__| |__| || || ooO Ooo Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens? |
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: IBen Getiner wrote: On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw Karen Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat. And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them. IBen It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is very wrong. Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on Google Groups. Therefore...... \|||/ (o o) ,--oo0--------------. | Please | | Don't Feed | | The TROLLs | '--------------oo0---' |__| |__| || || ooO Ooo Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens? Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others. There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin, a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not. -- |
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Mack A. Damia wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: IBen Getiner wrote: On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw Karen Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat. And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them. IBen It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is very wrong. Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on Google Groups. Therefore...... \|||/ (o o) ,--oo0--------------. | Please | | Don't Feed | | The TROLLs | '--------------oo0---' |__| |__| || || ooO Ooo Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens? Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others. There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin, a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not. Not here in the USA, you mean. But in China, they obviously are. And in a world where all of us have to live in peace and harmony together, (as the liberals envision) how are we to handle the Chinese propensity to raise and kill cats for food? |
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:24:52 -0800, "Bill Graham"
wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:01:24 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: IBen Getiner wrote: On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw Karen Who are we to say that the Chinese are wrong and we're somehow right? Isn't cat meat food just like anything else that we choose to nourish our bodies with? The Vietnamese people love dog meat. And many cultures not only eat horse, but also drink their milk and make it into butter and cheese and so-forth. Just because the West is the part of the world affected by total feminization, don't expect other more common-sense peoples to be the same. They think we're crazy, and I can't say that I don't agree with them. Too much emphasis on animal 'rights'. Give them many more and we won't even be allowed to eat them. ANY of them. IBen It isn't who we kill & eqat, but how they are kept and the quality of their life while they are waiting to feed us. The poor kitties in that film clip are not treated well, but hearded into tiny cages and made to suffer while they are waiting to die. I am not a vegitarian, and know that animals are dilled in large wuantities to feed me. But I wouod like to think that thewse animals lead happy relaxed lives before they reach full growth and are killed for my dinner plate. I eat "full range raised" chickens and beef that has been allowed to roam the green prarie before they were killed for me. This is part of my argument that outside cats asre OK. Its not the length of life that counts, but the quality of life until the end comes, that counts. If they have to be killed well, that's one thing. But to make them suffer before then is very wrong. Bill, IBen is a notorious troll on Usenet. Check out his history on Google Groups. Therefore...... \|||/ (o o) ,--oo0--------------. | Please | | Don't Feed | | The TROLLs | '--------------oo0---' |__| |__| || || ooO Ooo Perhaps, but the point he is making is perfectly valid. As meat eaters, we are responsible for the raising and killing of millions of animals every year, so to disparage others for killing and eating cats is duplicious and discriminatory. Does a cat suffer more than a chicken? And if not, then why is it more dispicable to kill and eat one than a chicken? As a libertsrian and mathematician who believes in logic I am duty bound to answer this question. Just because cats are soft and furry and are comfortable on my lap, does that give me the right to treat them better than chickens? Our culture and its norms says that it's okay to eat chickens but not alright under normal circumstances to eat cats. Other cultures may vary, but we live in our culture, not that of others. There are those who despise the killing of any animal. My own cousin, a clergyman, is a vegan. I tried a vegitarian diet many years ago and grew weak and weary. So we reach a compromise. Livestock and poultry are raised for consumption. Dogs and cats are not. Not here in the USA, you mean. But in China, they obviously are. And in a world where all of us have to live in peace and harmony together, (as the liberals envision) how are we to handle the Chinese propensity to raise and kill cats for food? We don't. It's their culture. If you mean Chinese-Americans, then I think there are local laws against that sort of thing. It's probably done - but then so is cockfighting, a "sport" deeply engrained in Hispanic culture. It's still a crime, though. All we can do is support law enforcement whenever we can. -- |
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On 2/3/2013 8:43 PM, IBen Getiner wrote:
a double-edged sword contrary to that insane vision: IGNORE IT. SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - or COUNTRY |
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On 2/3/2013 8:41 PM, IBen Getiner wrote:
On Feb 3, 9:01 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote: Mack A. Damia wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:15:37 -0800, "Bill Graham" wrote: IBenGetinerwrote: On Feb 1, 11:51 pm, ConsЯcons wrote: SPAMMED INTO NON-RELEVANT NEWSGROUPS - or COUNTRY |
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