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Old July 13th 09, 07:31 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
dgk
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Default Espy in hospital (Phil, you around?)

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:20:13 -0400, "cybercat"
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"dgk" wrote

He's only 7, maybe not even that.


This gives him a better shot. What worries me, from the catheter story, is
that Phil may be right and the second vet may have damaged his urethra.


Maybe, and I'm always concerned about such things, but I wouldn't bet
on it here. These folks are really very good. It's one of those places
with 20 doctors with various specialties. I brought Jackie there to
have all of her teeth pulled; they have (well, had) a dental
specialist. It's this place:

http://www.myvetspecialist.com/

Also, some good news. The vet reviewed the various results from my vet
and is not concerned about the liver enzymes. Apparently they are not
very far from normal. Nor are they concerned about the limp, which
likely is unrelated. Espy has been lively and peeing so they are
likely to let me take him home today.

Funny, they're not concerned about the liver enzymes, and my vet isn't
concerned about the heart murmur. I, of course, remain concerned about
both.

But if he eats and acts normal, I'll likely leave him home when I go
away next week. That's also if the poop cam and software continues to
track the litterbox activity. I did have to reboot it once but
otherwise it does a fine job of keeping me an informed pet slave.

My plan (if all goes well) is to check twice a day or so and review
the videos. If I don't see Espy going, or if I see him going
repeatedly, then I tell the cat sitter to take him to the vet. This is
a wonderful use of technology.


  #12  
Old July 13th 09, 10:29 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Billy
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Default Espy in hospital (Phil, you around?)

I'm sorry to say this but I would cancel the trip. Technoly will not
replace being there and your hearing that from a 20 year tech veteran.
If Epsy has to go through surgery that is.

I keep hearing this doc is not concerned, that doc is not
concerned....but i would recommend that you take a step back (i know
it's hard) and re-assess all of the facts, not just the opinions of the
vets. What do the vets facts point to, what is ruled out? Finding out a
root issue is sometimes ruling out all others with a direction based on
clues, if no clear facts present themselves definitively.

I hope you get an answer soon.

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:20:13 -0400, "cybercat"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote

He's only 7, maybe not even that.


This gives him a better shot. What worries me, from the catheter
story, is
that Phil may be right and the second vet may have damaged his
urethra.


Maybe, and I'm always concerned about such things, but I wouldn't bet
on it here. These folks are really very good. It's one of those places
with 20 doctors with various specialties. I brought Jackie there to
have all of her teeth pulled; they have (well, had) a dental
specialist. It's this place:

http://www.myvetspecialist.com/

Also, some good news. The vet reviewed the various results from my vet
and is not concerned about the liver enzymes. Apparently they are not
very far from normal. Nor are they concerned about the limp, which
likely is unrelated. Espy has been lively and peeing so they are
likely to let me take him home today.

Funny, they're not concerned about the liver enzymes, and my vet isn't
concerned about the heart murmur. I, of course, remain concerned about
both.

But if he eats and acts normal, I'll likely leave him home when I go
away next week. That's also if the poop cam and software continues to
track the litterbox activity. I did have to reboot it once but
otherwise it does a fine job of keeping me an informed pet slave.

My plan (if all goes well) is to check twice a day or so and review
the videos. If I don't see Espy going, or if I see him going
repeatedly, then I tell the cat sitter to take him to the vet. This is
a wonderful use of technology.

  #13  
Old July 15th 09, 02:05 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
dgk
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Default ESPY HAS BEEN RANSOMED and is home!

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:29:20 +0000 (UTC), Billy
wrote:

I'm sorry to say this but I would cancel the trip. Technoly will not
replace being there and your hearing that from a 20 year tech veteran.
If Epsy has to go through surgery that is.

I keep hearing this doc is not concerned, that doc is not
concerned....but i would recommend that you take a step back (i know
it's hard) and re-assess all of the facts, not just the opinions of the
vets. What do the vets facts point to, what is ruled out? Finding out a
root issue is sometimes ruling out all others with a direction based on
clues, if no clear facts present themselves definitively.

I hope you get an answer soon.



Oh, I'd cancel if surger was needed, but surgery has been ruled out.
The specialty vet said that they don't consider that until other
options have been tried. They count this as strike one. I need to feed
him only wet food - until now I gave him dry food after he finished
eating the wet food. All quallity stuff but still, no dry food at all
now.

I should even add some water to his wet food and they recommend a pet
fountain. I already have a pet fountain (the platinum one of course -
no less for my felines). I've even been adding some water to his wet
food such as Wellness Turkey, turning it into a slurry. He always
likes the juice so this works well. He ate a lot this morning but I
had to follow him around placing it under his face.

They really don't have a cause for this but there may not be one. It
is apparently unrelated to the liver or heart. Could be.

The ransom payment was around $1,600 - less than originally projected.
That, of course, doesn't count the $800 spent the previous week.

Some good news is that they feel that many cats outgrow getting urine
blockage by the age of 7 or 8, so he's closing in on that.

Let's review the facts. He wouldn't eat. X-ray shows enlarged bladder
and possibly a kidney that was a bit dark. Lab results show a slightly
elevated liver enzyme; I need to get that more specific. Apparently no
kidney problem. The bladder gets expressed and he comes home. The vet
asks me to call every few days to report on how he is doing. He gets
better consistently until he shows up limping on Saturday.

The specialty vet detects a heart murmur. Nothing done about that. No
one even got an Xray - I wasn't pleased. Bladder is enlarged and a
catheter can get in so no surgery at least. They flush out the
bladder, hopefully getting any existing crystals and perhaps some
mucous. We're still waiting for the urine culture but it should be
negative.

Mostly the last few days were to allow the urethra to calm down from
the catheter and make sure that he's peeing normally.

That's the current state of Espy. He's home, eating and peeing,
hopefully pooping though apparently he wouldn't eat enough at the
hospital to keep an insect alive. He did eat some though. I'll watch
the PP came closely to make sure he does both.

Thanks for everyone's help.
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Old July 15th 09, 04:24 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Ping Kalmia: ESPY HAS BEEN RANSOMED and is home!


"dgk" wrote

Oh, I'd cancel if surger was needed, but surgery has been ruled out.
The specialty vet said that they don't consider that until other
options have been tried. They count this as strike one. I need to feed
him only wet food - until now I gave him dry food after he finished
eating the wet food. All quallity stuff but still, no dry food at all
now.


Think maybe you want to save yourself some money in the long run, Kalmia,
you cheap *******?



I should even add some water to his wet food and they recommend a pet
fountain. I already have a pet fountain (the platinum one of course -
no less for my felines). I've even been adding some water to his wet
food such as Wellness Turkey, turning it into a slurry. He always
likes the juice so this works well. He ate a lot this morning but I
had to follow him around placing it under his face.

They really don't have a cause for this but there may not be one. It
is apparently unrelated to the liver or heart. Could be.

The ransom payment was around $1,600 - less than originally projected.
That, of course, doesn't count the $800 spent the previous week.


THIS is what can happen to male cats on dry food, esp. the cheap stuff you
are feeding your cat.


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Old July 15th 09, 04:25 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
cybercat
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Default ESPY HAS BEEN RANSOMED and is home!


"dgk" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:29:20 +0000 (UTC), Billy
wrote:


That's the current state of Espy. He's home, eating and peeing,
hopefully pooping though apparently he wouldn't eat enough at the
hospital to keep an insect alive. He did eat some though. I'll watch
the PP came closely to make sure he does both.


Beautiful job, dgk. I am so glad you had the money to take such good care of
your cat. I know you had better things to do with that money. I hope Espy
recovers completely and has no more problems.


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Old July 16th 09, 01:42 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Billy
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Default ESPY HAS BEEN RANSOMED and is home!

Remember that all this stress and dr visits can temporarily change
epsy's eating habits as well. She might be off for a while.


"cybercat" wrote:
"dgk" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:29:20 +0000 (UTC), Billy

wrote:


That's the current state of Espy. He's home, eating and peeing,
hopefully pooping though apparently he wouldn't eat enough at the
hospital to keep an insect alive. He did eat some though. I'll watch
the PP came closely to make sure he does both.


Beautiful job, dgk. I am so glad you had the money to take such good
care of
your cat. I know you had better things to do with that money. I hope
Espy
recovers completely and has no more problems.

  #17  
Old July 16th 09, 01:23 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
dgk
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Default ESPY HAS BEEN RANSOMED and is home!

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:42:06 +0000 (UTC), Billy
wrote:

Remember that all this stress and dr visits can temporarily change
epsy's eating habits as well. She might be off for a while.



Argh! Urine culture results are back, he has Proteus Mirablis. Not the
worst bacteria but he needs to be pilled for two weeks. That is one
more week than I'm going to be home. I'm going to try to crunch the
pill into some expensive Fancy Feast appetizer I bought at Target
yesterday - this kind of thing:

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p...925&dept_id=17


If it works, then maybe the cat sitter can do the same. She'll
actually have an advantage since the other two cats are likely to hide
when she's there.

I suspect, however, that Espy is getting boarded (and very bored) for
the week. I hate the thought of him being in a cage for a whole week
but he will get the best care that way.



 




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