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  #61  
Old December 16th 10, 09:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Storrmmee
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the one where you were fair and balanced, talking about how long david had
been here, if you would resend i think i wanted to respond, Lee
"Yowie" wrote in message
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On 17/12/2010 6:21 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
and i tried not, so much for effort... lol, and on top of all that i
somehow
lost yowie's post, grrr, this is NOT shaping up to be a great week, Lee


Which post of mine did you lose? I can re-send if you wish.

Yowie



  #62  
Old December 16th 10, 09:19 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Yowie" wrote in message
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On 17/12/2010 6:13 AM, Joy wrote:
BTW, Yowie, thank you for injecting a note of sanity into this thread.
Your
point of view seems to be well balanced and unbiased.

It does seem that people's skins are more sensitive this time of year,
and
they are more likely to take offense where it wasn't intended, and to
overreact to things. It's too bad.


Why thankyou blush.

2010 hasn't been a good year for many. Whilst I wouldn't consider it an
annus horibilis yet touch wood, 2010 has not been an easy year for me
either, and I'll be glad when its over.

Yowie


It's true. It hasn't been a good year for many, and grief and pain are
often intensified by all the insistence that everyone be happy this time of
year.

Joy


  #63  
Old December 16th 10, 09:28 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Joy" wrote in message . ..

"Yowie" wrote in message
...
On 17/12/2010 6:13 AM, Joy wrote:
BTW, Yowie, thank you for injecting a note of sanity into this thread.
Your
point of view seems to be well balanced and unbiased.

It does seem that people's skins are more sensitive this time of year,
and
they are more likely to take offense where it wasn't intended, and to
overreact to things. It's too bad.


Why thankyou blush.

2010 hasn't been a good year for many. Whilst I wouldn't consider it an
annus horibilis yet touch wood, 2010 has not been an easy year for me
either, and I'll be glad when its over.

Yowie


It's true. It hasn't been a good year for many, and grief and pain are
often intensified by all the insistence that everyone be happy this time of
year.

Joy

--------

I agree. I will be so glad when Christmas is over. The only thing bad
about this holiday being over is we then go into an intense winter with a
helluva lot of snow. But, with things that have happened to me lately, I
will still take getting Christmas done with. The main reason is losing my
dog last month. It's so hard.



·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

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All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln


  #64  
Old December 16th 10, 11:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On Dec 16, 2:59*pm, Sherry wrote:
On Dec 15, 11:39*pm, Takayuki wrote:



David Stevenson wrote:
snuffy wrote
Its obvious that David Stevenson does not love his wife and it *very
sad that Mr. and Mrs. Stevenson continue *to live together. The wife
is doing her best to ignore the situation but the cat is aware of her
feelings and is trying to wake her up. *Mr. Stevenson seems pleased
that their cat patted her with its claws out. 3 times right in front
of his eyes without him doing anything about it. * *I've lately taken
up meditation and when Snuffy walks in as Im meditating he always
wants to get involved. *The first time I had my eyes closed and was
sitting on the floor, *he patted me on the leg and it felt so
wonderful but he didnt have his claws out. *Now he just does the
figure 8 around my legs. which means get up and do something. * But
during play he has had his claws out at bit. *The cat wants Mrs.
Stevenson to realize what is going on with her husband and leave
him. *. *Wake up Mrs Stevenson and leave that bum.


* What a wonderful post. *Now there's a really nice person.


I'm not sure, but I think the above was meant to be some kind of
parody. - Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


This whole thread just makes me sad. It's a perfect example of what
rpca
has become.
David's post was a story. An *anecdote*. *It was what this ng used to
be all
about.
This is also a perfect example of why *I stopped posting to alt.cats
and rec.pets.cats.behavior. I could post a perfectly legit question
with the
scenario involved. There would *always* be *someone* who, instead of
taking the point intended, would pick up on some turn of phrase, and
slam me good for something entirely unrelated. And it would *always*
be that the poster misinterpreted what I said in the first place.
But RPCA wasn't like that. It is now. There are people now whom it
seems are simply searchng for an opportunity to be disagreeable
when they read a post. Especially if it's from someone you may not
particularly like, or someone you don't know.

What makes me saddest is the hypocrisy here, and I wonder how this
post would have been received had it been authored by a regular
poster.
David and I don't always see eye to eye. But I've read his posts for
over
ten years and he does have a wonderful dry wit and sense of humor.
Some
people didn't "get" it because he doesnt post much anymore and you're
not
familiar with him. BTW, he painstakingly has kept a list of all our
cats RB
and living, just simply by labor of love.
It also makes me wonder how some of you would react to David Yehuda.
Google his posts in the archives sometime. He was the king of creative
license with his postings. I think he would also be very sad to read
this thread.
Some posts are meant to be entertaining, nothing more. They're not
supposed
to give you insight into our private lives or make you think you know
what
kind of people we are.


Well said Sherry.

Jeanette
  #65  
Old December 16th 10, 11:41 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Storrmmee
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had david described said situation as you had i think there would have been
less of a fuss, i play that same game with Trudi, and she had to learn that
bunny kicking was to be done softly, it only took a couple of times of me
just freezeing and ignoring her shen she got too rough to get my point
across, now, if she gets into my lap and i flip her onto her bacck she can
wrap all four paws around my forearm and i can actually carry her that way,
I of course always have the other one under her but she thinks she is doing
it all because i keep it just low enough to let her hang there, no clue why
she like it but she purrs her loudest doing this game, and you can ask
gramby she has a mighty loud purr in general, Lee
"Judith Latham" wrote in message
...
In article , David Stevenson
wrote:
Granby wrote
I put you in KF then took you out trying to be a reasonable person.
Now you go back as I think you are doing this just to upset people, bah
humbug to you.


*I* was not the horrible person who decided to attack a perfect
stranger on this NG. If you support that sort of personal attack, I
hope you never read anything of mine and I hope I never read anything of
yours again.


You may expect personal attacks on your family. I do not and find
them extremely upsetting.


Please will everyone calm down.

I understand David's wife, letting the cat's claws just stick in a little
then when the cat pushes it's luck one too many times stopping it.

I play what I call fisticuffs with Sootie as I did Sweep RB. I stroke
under her chin, and she grabs me with both front paws and pretends to bite
my hand. Both cats learned to retract their claws and should they slip up
I only have to say "claws" and they retract them. The pretend bites never
break my skin and if she becomes too enthusiastic I pull out of the game.
Ok at first before she learned the rules I got a few scratches but now I
get none.

On the other hand when Sweep took to leaping at my legs and biting them
when I was otherwise occupied (I'll leave that to your imagination, but I
was sitting down in the bathroom) I had to take action in that I pushed
her away from my legs with some velocity. She stopped doing it.

There is a distinct difference in behaviour which needs different
reactions.

Gandalf may have misunderstood what was happening, been in a sensitive
mind set. I don't know. I don't think he is a man who sets out to upset
people. I don't think that the other people who reacted against your post
are either.

I am glad that you've started to post here more often so please don't
stop. Remember, I have to deal with the Stourbridge ring road and need to
read posts here to recover.

Judith

--
Judith Latham
Stourbridge, West Midlands. UK.



  #66  
Old December 16th 10, 11:50 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote in message
...
"Joy" wrote in message
. ..

"Yowie" wrote in message
...
On 17/12/2010 6:13 AM, Joy wrote:
BTW, Yowie, thank you for injecting a note of sanity into this thread.
Your
point of view seems to be well balanced and unbiased.

It does seem that people's skins are more sensitive this time of year,
and
they are more likely to take offense where it wasn't intended, and to
overreact to things. It's too bad.


Why thankyou blush.

2010 hasn't been a good year for many. Whilst I wouldn't consider it an
annus horibilis yet touch wood, 2010 has not been an easy year for me
either, and I'll be glad when its over.

Yowie


It's true. It hasn't been a good year for many, and grief and pain are
often intensified by all the insistence that everyone be happy this time
of
year.

Joy

--------

I agree. I will be so glad when Christmas is over. The only thing bad
about this holiday being over is we then go into an intense winter with a
helluva lot of snow. But, with things that have happened to me lately, I
will still take getting Christmas done with. The main reason is losing my
dog last month. It's so hard.



·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie


Yes, losing a loved one is always hard, no matter whether the loved one had
two legs or four.

Joy


  #67  
Old December 17th 10, 12:58 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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It is hard and I still miss Scooter and Sadie, both dogs, as much as I did
the day they left. I was able to do something with Sadie's ashes this
summer but still have Scooters here. I will do something with them this
spring.
"~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote in message
...
"Joy" wrote in message
. ..

"Yowie" wrote in message
...
On 17/12/2010 6:13 AM, Joy wrote:
BTW, Yowie, thank you for injecting a note of sanity into this thread.
Your
point of view seems to be well balanced and unbiased.

It does seem that people's skins are more sensitive this time of year,
and
they are more likely to take offense where it wasn't intended, and to
overreact to things. It's too bad.


Why thankyou blush.

2010 hasn't been a good year for many. Whilst I wouldn't consider it an
annus horibilis yet touch wood, 2010 has not been an easy year for me
either, and I'll be glad when its over.

Yowie


It's true. It hasn't been a good year for many, and grief and pain are
often intensified by all the insistence that everyone be happy this time
of
year.

Joy

--------

I agree. I will be so glad when Christmas is over. The only thing bad
about this holiday being over is we then go into an intense winter with a
helluva lot of snow. But, with things that have happened to me lately, I
will still take getting Christmas done with. The main reason is losing my
dog last month. It's so hard.



·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
Laurie
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.·

*~*LiveLoveLaugh*~*

All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother.
~Abraham Lincoln




  #68  
Old December 17th 10, 01:13 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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In ,
Storrmmee typed:
Lee "Yowie" wrote in message
...
On 17/12/2010 6:21 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
and i tried not, so much for effort... lol, and on top of all that i
somehow
lost yowie's post, grrr, this is NOT shaping up to be a great week,
Lee


Which post of mine did you lose? I can re-send if you wish.

the one where you were fair and balanced, talking about how long
david had been here, if you would resend i think i wanted to respond,


Here's the message ID which should take you back to the original message.


Or

Should work (let me know if it doesn't)

The only thing I'd change it that post above is one sentence, which I would
have very much liked to have kept intact, but its no longer true.

With regret I would now have to change the sentence "I can assure one and
all that David has never ever posted out of
spite, mean spiritedness, senility or to start a flame war." to "I can
assure one and all that David has never ever posted out of
spite, mean spiritedness bar the current thread, senility or to start a
flame war."

Yowie


  #69  
Old December 17th 10, 01:36 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Yowie wrote
The only thing I'd change it that post above is one sentence, which I would
have very much liked to have kept intact, but its no longer true.

With regret I would now have to change the sentence "I can assure one and
all that David has never ever posted out of
spite, mean spiritedness, senility or to start a flame war." to "I can
assure one and all that David has never ever posted out of
spite, mean spiritedness bar the current thread, senility or to start a
flame war."


The current thread was merely reaction to unjustified attacks on my
wife.

Answer me this, Yowie: you posted a lot of posts about Shmogg, many
humorous, some involving Joel. Suppose after one of those posts someone
had posted here a rant that Joel's actions were totally unacceptable,
how happy would you be?

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  #70  
Old December 17th 10, 01:37 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On Dec 12, 11:04*pm, Sherry wrote:
On Dec 12, 10:34*pm, "Yowie"
wrote:

Not wanting to enter (or start!) a flamefest, but I would not let my cats
attract attention in physically injurous ways either. Meowing loudly and
getting in my face are annoying enough, I am *not* going to let them think
thats its in any way OK to hurt me or mine on purpose (and fairs fair, if
one of the two-foots hurts either of them accidently we get a swift bite or
nasty scratch for our trouble to let them know that they dont' think being
hurt is acceptable either). Last thing I'd want them to do is hurt Cary once
they realise he's just as capable of operating the kibble box as I am.


Yowie


shrug Different interpretations, I guess. If you're replying to my
post,
I wouldn't call it "phyiscally injurious" in any way, shape or form. I
never
had even a mark on my leg. The key word is "intent". He didn't intend
to "phyiscally injure" me. If he wanted to, believe me, he could have.
The most I'd do is scold him and rake his paw off my leg with my hand.
Same with love bites, or kneading? There's a little discomfort there
for
the owner, but no injury, and no intent to harm.
Would you punish them for that too?
I've had cats for 40 years at least, and have *never* gotten rid of
one
because he was too aggressive. I know where the line is between
a cat asking for a pet, and a cat who's aggressively trying to hurt
me.

Sherry


I don't often post anymore, but I'm in Sherry's camp here. Lunatic
loved to attack Jody's hands when he was tying his shoes in the
morning. She's grown up quite a bit in the last six years so she
doesn't anymore but it was obvious, to her, it was only a game to play
with Daddy. She always ended up with ear scritches. Incidentally I
found her in a cage at PetsMart *because* she was deemed aggressive.
She wasn't a clawer, she was a biter. But even "biter" doesn't portray
the love nips. She never applied pressure, and she never ever
punctured anybody. She never even left indentions. But the mechanics
of biting were there and I suppose for some people, that was
unacceptable. 'Tic is so regal and ladylike now. Today I don't think
she'd ever embarrass herself by playing. Nothing but sitting on a
throne waiting for pets for her. Sweet, always purrs, patience with my
four year old but prefers to be treated like very very gently. I miss
the playful Miss. Mischief cat that she used to be.


Grace
 




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