IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE PRACTICES OF THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY!!!!! Introduction

From: dgk

You need to take Poli-Sci 101. Your right wing tub thumping comments
about Canada being a socialist country are ignorant rhetoric.

-mhd

I notice you didn't attempt a reply at the other points I made.

You obviously don't want to have a legitimate conversation if you think what
I
said was "right wing, blah, blah". Does Canada have a Socialist Healthcare
system or not? Before you dismiss what I've said as "ignorant rhetoric",
you
might want to reconsider what really goes on up there.

Sorry, I can't spend too much time on you. We'll never agree.

But yes, we did put Hussein in power. Our CIA guided him every step of
the way, even giving him lists of people to kill.

Do you have any PROOF of this, or does this just make a good conspiracy theory?
BTW, I think you can't defend the excellent points that were made. Oh well.

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message ...
From: dgk

(...)

Human overpopulation is wiping out the habitat of all other forms of
live on Earth.

No, it is not. Have you ever been on an airplane? Have you flown across the
US? There is a lot of empty space down there! That's just one simple
example.

Ha ha ha! Simple is the word, explanation ain't a part of it though.
Educate yourself via:

http://sagitta.ci.uc.pt/mhonarchive/.../msg00209.html

http://www.uen.org/themepark/html/habitat/endanim.html
', however, most plants and animals become endangered because of the
interference of humans.'

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html
http://eelink.net/EndSpp/takingaction-overview.html

The loss of fish (via overfishing) is an obvious example of these
types of human intervention - this gets a reasonable amount of radio
coverage, from time to time.

To think that humans are NOT leading (and have led to) to the
extinction of various species is ostrich behaviour of the most amusing
sort.


We do need
population control no matter what the religious folks think.

That's absolutely ridiculous! Who is supposed to make those decisions?

The individuals, ideally - although that probably won't happen.


(...)

We refuse
to face the fact that human activity is changing the climate of the
earth in a way that greatly threatens the continued existence of all
life.

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ent/index.html

Or I suppose you could just dismiss it all as a communist-pinko plot,
eh? Simpler that way.


Haven't heard
much about the ozone hole lately, have you? That's because it's been closing
up for the last several years. More damage is caused to the "environment" by
one volcano eruption than anything man has done.

Absurd. Compare, contrast - volcano ... Hiroshima. Chernobyl.

I don't think any volcano has led to the extinction of any animal
species, either.


This is a vibrant, robust,
healthy planet. It was designed for us to live here. There is no "quota".

It was neither 'designed', nor is it specifically for us. Its
continued vibrancy and robustness requires humans to be proactive in
protecting the environment, rather than saying 'ah ****it, it'll all
work out magically in the end'.



I have read quite a bit on the subject of dairy products not being
good for humans and I think there is some truth to this.

Oh brother! rolling my eyes You can find the "bad" in anything if you
look hard enough and if you're geared to being a pessimist.

If you are lactose intolerant, then milk ain't good for you!

(...)

You've been brainwashed by the leftists.

Ah, it's those damn leftists again. Lurking in cupboards, making up
global warming. In fact, Saddam Hussein was a left-wing pinko-commie
vegetarian acupuncture-loving VW-beetle driving liberal, the cad!

Steve.

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message ...
From: dgk

(...)

Human overpopulation is wiping out the habitat of all other forms of
live on Earth.

No, it is not. Have you ever been on an airplane? Have you flown across the
US? There is a lot of empty space down there! That's just one simple
example.

Ha ha ha! Simple is the word, explanation ain't a part of it though.
Educate yourself via:

http://sagitta.ci.uc.pt/mhonarchive/.../msg00209.html

http://www.uen.org/themepark/html/habitat/endanim.html
', however, most plants and animals become endangered because of the
interference of humans.'

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html
http://eelink.net/EndSpp/takingaction-overview.html

The loss of fish (via overfishing) is an obvious example of these
types of human intervention - this gets a reasonable amount of radio
coverage, from time to time.

To think that humans are NOT leading (and have led to) to the
extinction of various species is ostrich behaviour of the most amusing
sort.


We do need
population control no matter what the religious folks think.

That's absolutely ridiculous! Who is supposed to make those decisions?

The individuals, ideally - although that probably won't happen.


(...)

We refuse
to face the fact that human activity is changing the climate of the
earth in a way that greatly threatens the continued existence of all
life.

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ent/index.html

Or I suppose you could just dismiss it all as a communist-pinko plot,
eh? Simpler that way.


Haven't heard
much about the ozone hole lately, have you? That's because it's been closing
up for the last several years. More damage is caused to the "environment" by
one volcano eruption than anything man has done.

Absurd. Compare, contrast - volcano ... Hiroshima. Chernobyl.

I don't think any volcano has led to the extinction of any animal
species, either.


This is a vibrant, robust,
healthy planet. It was designed for us to live here. There is no "quota".

It was neither 'designed', nor is it specifically for us. Its
continued vibrancy and robustness requires humans to be proactive in
protecting the environment, rather than saying 'ah ****it, it'll all
work out magically in the end'.



I have read quite a bit on the subject of dairy products not being
good for humans and I think there is some truth to this.

Oh brother! rolling my eyes You can find the "bad" in anything if you
look hard enough and if you're geared to being a pessimist.

If you are lactose intolerant, then milk ain't good for you!

(...)

You've been brainwashed by the leftists.

Ah, it's those damn leftists again. Lurking in cupboards, making up
global warming. In fact, Saddam Hussein was a left-wing pinko-commie
vegetarian acupuncture-loving VW-beetle driving liberal, the cad!

Steve.

From: (Steve G)

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message
...
From: dgk

(...)

Human overpopulation is wiping out the habitat of all other forms of
live on Earth.

No, it is not. Have you ever been on an airplane? Have you flown across
the
US? There is a lot of empty space down there! That's just one simple
example.

Ha ha ha! Simple is the word, explanation ain't a part of it though.
Educate yourself via:

http://sagitta.ci.uc.pt/mhonarchive/.../msg00209.html

http://www.uen.org/themepark/html/habitat/endanim.html
', however, most plants and animals become endangered because of the
interference of humans.'

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html
http://eelink.net/EndSpp/takingaction-overview.html

The loss of fish (via overfishing) is an obvious example of these
types of human intervention - this gets a reasonable amount of radio
coverage, from time to time.

To think that humans are NOT leading (and have led to) to the
extinction of various species is ostrich behaviour of the most amusing
sort.


We do need
population control no matter what the religious folks think.

That's absolutely ridiculous! Who is supposed to make those decisions?

The individuals, ideally - although that probably won't happen.


(...)

We refuse
to face the fact that human activity is changing the climate of the
earth in a way that greatly threatens the continued existence of all
life.

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ent/index.html

Or I suppose you could just dismiss it all as a communist-pinko plot,
eh? Simpler that way.


Haven't heard
much about the ozone hole lately, have you? That's because it's been
closing
up for the last several years. More damage is caused to the "environment"
by
one volcano eruption than anything man has done.

Absurd. Compare, contrast - volcano ... Hiroshima. Chernobyl.

I don't think any volcano has led to the extinction of any animal
species, either.


This is a vibrant, robust,
healthy planet. It was designed for us to live here. There is no "quota".

It was neither 'designed', nor is it specifically for us. Its
continued vibrancy and robustness requires humans to be proactive in
protecting the environment, rather than saying 'ah ****it, it'll all
work out magically in the end'.



I have read quite a bit on the subject of dairy products not being
good for humans and I think there is some truth to this.

Oh brother! rolling my eyes You can find the "bad" in anything if you
look hard enough and if you're geared to being a pessimist.

If you are lactose intolerant, then milk ain't good for you!

(...)

You've been brainwashed by the leftists.

Ah, it's those damn leftists again. Lurking in cupboards, making up
global warming. In fact, Saddam Hussein was a left-wing pinko-commie
vegetarian acupuncture-loving VW-beetle driving liberal, the cad!

Steve.

LMAO!!!!! Great post, Steve

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Steve G)

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message
...
From: dgk

(...)

Human overpopulation is wiping out the habitat of all other forms of
live on Earth.

No, it is not. Have you ever been on an airplane? Have you flown across
the
US? There is a lot of empty space down there! That's just one simple
example.

Ha ha ha! Simple is the word, explanation ain't a part of it though.
Educate yourself via:

http://sagitta.ci.uc.pt/mhonarchive/.../msg00209.html

http://www.uen.org/themepark/html/habitat/endanim.html
', however, most plants and animals become endangered because of the
interference of humans.'

http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html
http://eelink.net/EndSpp/takingaction-overview.html

The loss of fish (via overfishing) is an obvious example of these
types of human intervention - this gets a reasonable amount of radio
coverage, from time to time.

To think that humans are NOT leading (and have led to) to the
extinction of various species is ostrich behaviour of the most amusing
sort.


We do need
population control no matter what the religious folks think.

That's absolutely ridiculous! Who is supposed to make those decisions?

The individuals, ideally - although that probably won't happen.


(...)

We refuse
to face the fact that human activity is changing the climate of the
earth in a way that greatly threatens the continued existence of all
life.

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ent/index.html

Or I suppose you could just dismiss it all as a communist-pinko plot,
eh? Simpler that way.


Haven't heard
much about the ozone hole lately, have you? That's because it's been
closing
up for the last several years. More damage is caused to the "environment"
by
one volcano eruption than anything man has done.

Absurd. Compare, contrast - volcano ... Hiroshima. Chernobyl.

I don't think any volcano has led to the extinction of any animal
species, either.


This is a vibrant, robust,
healthy planet. It was designed for us to live here. There is no "quota".

It was neither 'designed', nor is it specifically for us. Its
continued vibrancy and robustness requires humans to be proactive in
protecting the environment, rather than saying 'ah ****it, it'll all
work out magically in the end'.



I have read quite a bit on the subject of dairy products not being
good for humans and I think there is some truth to this.

Oh brother! rolling my eyes You can find the "bad" in anything if you
look hard enough and if you're geared to being a pessimist.

If you are lactose intolerant, then milk ain't good for you!

(...)

You've been brainwashed by the leftists.

Ah, it's those damn leftists again. Lurking in cupboards, making up
global warming. In fact, Saddam Hussein was a left-wing pinko-commie
vegetarian acupuncture-loving VW-beetle driving liberal, the cad!

Steve.

LMAO!!!!! Great post, Steve

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Subject: IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE PRACTICES OF THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY!!!!!
Introduction
From: (Steve G)

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

There are many, many references showing global warming as a fraud. For every
source you provide, another source can be provided debunking your source. It's
a game to you, apparently. It's interesting because in the 1970s, the big
environmental scare was the "approaching Ice Age". Now it's "global warming".
Try selling your "global warming" to people suffering from the cold winter
we've been having here in the US and Canada. AlGore attempted it on the
coldest day of the year some weeks back and he was ridiiculed (rightfully so)
for being an idiot.

Subject: IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE PRACTICES OF THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY!!!!!
Introduction
From: (Steve G)

If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.

Hee hee hee.

You could hop over to the AGRICOLA search engine, and find c.1000
papers dealing with global warming.

Perhaps you could pop across to the EPA web site, to see what they
have to say on the issue:

There are many, many references showing global warming as a fraud. For every
source you provide, another source can be provided debunking your source. It's
a game to you, apparently. It's interesting because in the 1970s, the big
environmental scare was the "approaching Ice Age". Now it's "global warming".
Try selling your "global warming" to people suffering from the cold winter
we've been having here in the US and Canada. AlGore attempted it on the
coldest day of the year some weeks back and he was ridiiculed (rightfully so)
for being an idiot.

From: dgk

Steve, really, don't bother. He's hopeless and clueless and wrapped in
his flag.

If you hate it so much, then get the hell out. Otherwise quit 'yer bitching.
I'm sure Steve G in the UK would love to have you room with him. Misery loves
company, you know?

From: dgk

Steve, really, don't bother. He's hopeless and clueless and wrapped in
his flag.

If you hate it so much, then get the hell out. Otherwise quit 'yer bitching.
I'm sure Steve G in the UK would love to have you room with him. Misery loves
company, you know?

 As for 9/11, there is a feeling among many, myself included,
 that the attack was a reaction to many evil activities
performed by
 the US or US corporations in the spreading of global
capitalism.
 It is not an accident that it was the World Trade Center, the
very
 home of global capitalism, that was attacked.

IMO, Muslims see the USA as evil not because of capitalism. Most Arab
states are also capitalist. What Muslims condemn is the American way
of life, the liberalism, the consumption of alcohol and drugs, the
pornography, the freedom of women, the freedom of information. The
freedom of women is a direct threat to their extremely archaic tribal
society, where women have no rights and are nothing but objects owned
by men. Some Islamic societies go to the extreme of amputating the
clitoris of women so that they do not "fall into temptation." IMO,
they are true barbarians. Not long ago in Saudi Arabia, they killed
two or three young schoolgirls because they were not covering their
head. The girls were killed by men who threw rocks at them when
walking home from school. Israel is a threat to them for the same
reason: the freedom and the respect women have in the Jewish society.
If they do that kind of barbaric act to their own kind, imagine what
they can do to the rest – I guess now you know. And, they attacked the
towers because they were the greatest symbol of America.


 No, it is not. Have you ever been on an airplane? Have you
flown
 across the US? There is a lot of empty space down there!
That's
 just one simple example.

Empty space whose soil is polluted with chemicals, empty space whose
soil is too poor to produce enough food to support a rich ecosystem –
what good is that?

 If you are referenceing global warming, that's only a theory.
 Haven't heard much about the ozone hole lately, have you?

I bet you don't know why the ozone hole is shrinking, do you? Because
WE (just about every country on the planet) realized we were WRONG and
banned CFCs and other substances that were destroying the ozone layer.
We still need to realize we are wrong in hundreds of other issues.

 We seem to be the only force for good on this planet, while
 corruption (including Clinton at the time) puts other
countries
 on the sidelines as long as they profit from said corruption.

I really find it sad to see any American talking bad about Clinton.
IMO, he was the best president the USA ever had. Crime and
unemployment rates were the lowest in 30 years. I do not think any
other US president did more than Clinton in promoting a good image for
your country abroad. He is a political genius and a true statesman.
And before you think of other names of great presidents you had, keep
in mind that the USA was never so complex as it is today. As the
population grows, governing becomes harder. It's very hard to please
everyone, to generate thousands of jobs, etc. What he did in his
personal life is none of my concern and it shouldn't be anyone's
concern but his and his family's. He was elected president, not pope.
And he did his job like no other. I definitively wish Kerry wins and
we might all see prosperity again (the economy of the USA affects the
economy of every other country on the planet).

DKG and Steve G, please accept my wide applauses to your posts! I love
people who are environmentally conscious.