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Old September 13th 04, 03:14 PM
Mary
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"kaeli" wrote

Oh, they don't eat it all. I just don't like to store wet food in the

fridge
and then have to heat it. So they share one in the morning and one in the
evening, but they rarely finish it all. So, they each get about a half a

can
a day plus a little dry.
The "recommended serving" on the cans says a can per day per 8 pound cat.
The cans are, IIRC, somewhere around 5 oz.
The cans range from 40 cents to $1 each, depending on what kind I buy.

I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them.


My girls share a 3-oz can and don't finish it, then they get dry, Boo half a
cup a
day and Cheeks the skinny one as much as she wants. I wonder how Boo can be
so fat? It is worrisome as she is getting bigger now that her hyperthyroid
is regulated.
She should weigh about 8 pounds and she weighed 13.5 at her last checkup.
Not
good. (But I didn't do it to her! Her first owner delivered her that way.)


(...)
So if the good quality dry is just as good or better than the lower

quality
wet, I'd be more than happy to let them have it.


I guess the problem is that if don't know whether your cats are
especially susceptible to urinary nastyness, then you don't know
whether it's best to err on the side of water intake (****ty wet food)
versus generally better nutritional profile (quality dry).


I know.
I worry most about Rowan and Jeffrey. Rowan, because she's always been a
little sickly and she gets dehydrated very quickly and Jeffrey b/c he's a
boy. Isis always seems well-hydrated.
They all drink ample water.

I think what I'm going to do is give them whatever wet they like the most

in
the morning and late afternoon and leave them a half-cup of their higher-
quality dry to share overnight.


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  #33  
Old September 13th 04, 03:14 PM
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"kaeli" wrote

Oh, they don't eat it all. I just don't like to store wet food in the

fridge
and then have to heat it. So they share one in the morning and one in the
evening, but they rarely finish it all. So, they each get about a half a

can
a day plus a little dry.
The "recommended serving" on the cans says a can per day per 8 pound cat.
The cans are, IIRC, somewhere around 5 oz.
The cans range from 40 cents to $1 each, depending on what kind I buy.

I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no clue how much wet to give them.


My girls share a 3-oz can and don't finish it, then they get dry, Boo half a
cup a
day and Cheeks the skinny one as much as she wants. I wonder how Boo can be
so fat? It is worrisome as she is getting bigger now that her hyperthyroid
is regulated.
She should weigh about 8 pounds and she weighed 13.5 at her last checkup.
Not
good. (But I didn't do it to her! Her first owner delivered her that way.)


(...)
So if the good quality dry is just as good or better than the lower

quality
wet, I'd be more than happy to let them have it.


I guess the problem is that if don't know whether your cats are
especially susceptible to urinary nastyness, then you don't know
whether it's best to err on the side of water intake (****ty wet food)
versus generally better nutritional profile (quality dry).


I know.
I worry most about Rowan and Jeffrey. Rowan, because she's always been a
little sickly and she gets dehydrated very quickly and Jeffrey b/c he's a
boy. Isis always seems well-hydrated.
They all drink ample water.

I think what I'm going to do is give them whatever wet they like the most

in
the morning and late afternoon and leave them a half-cup of their higher-
quality dry to share overnight.


--
--
~kaeli~
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know where it's going or when it needs to be there.
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  #34  
Old September 13th 04, 04:51 PM
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I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them.


An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain
their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would
need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of
Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day
would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want
to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent
quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good
quality foods.

You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html

Megan



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providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

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  #35  
Old September 13th 04, 04:51 PM
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I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them.


An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain
their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would
need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of
Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day
would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want
to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent
quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good
quality foods.

You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


  #36  
Old September 13th 04, 06:55 PM
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In article ,
enlightened us with...
I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them.


An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain
their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would
need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of
Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day
would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want
to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent
quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good
quality foods.

You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html


Thanks!

I wish cat foods had lables like human foods that had calorie and nutrition
content right on there.
This would be a lot easier.

Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like
has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like.
This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary
tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do
you think?

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  #37  
Old September 13th 04, 06:55 PM
kaeli
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In article ,
enlightened us with...
I'm so used to free-feeding dry, I have no
clue how much wet to give them.


An indoor cat generally needs about 15 calories per pound to maintain
their body weight. For example, if your cat weighs 8 pounds he would
need 120 calories a day, or 60 calories per meal. The average can of
Wellness canned food is around 180 calories, so 1/3 of a can twice a day
would be just right. If you haven't tried Wellness yet, you might want
to as most cats I know of that have tried it like it, it's excellent
quality with no grains, and the Fancy Feast, SD, etc. are not good
quality foods.

You can find the calorie content of a variety of canned foods he
http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/jmpeerson/canfood.html


Thanks!

I wish cat foods had lables like human foods that had calorie and nutrition
content right on there.
This would be a lot easier.

Interestingly enough, after looking at the dry food info, the dry they like
has less phosphorous per serving than the canned that they like.
This seems to indicate to me that it's better for their kidneys and urinary
tract to eat the dry that they like more than the wet that they like. What do
you think?

--
--
~kaeli~
You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

  #38  
Old September 14th 04, 01:04 AM
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Kaeli wrote:
Interestingly enough, after looking at the
dry food info, the dry they like has less
phosphorous per serving than the canned
that they like. This seems to indicate to
me that it's better for their kidneys and
urinary tract to eat the dry that they like
more than the wet that they like. What do
you think?


If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a
higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is
no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods
dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats.
It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or
avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content
of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration
that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful.


Megan




"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


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Old September 14th 04, 01:04 AM
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Kaeli wrote:
Interestingly enough, after looking at the
dry food info, the dry they like has less
phosphorous per serving than the canned
that they like. This seems to indicate to
me that it's better for their kidneys and
urinary tract to eat the dry that they like
more than the wet that they like. What do
you think?


If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a
higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is
no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods
dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats.
It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or
avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content
of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration
that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful.


Megan




"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


  #40  
Old September 14th 04, 02:48 PM
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In article ,
enlightened us with...

If the cats are healthy and without kidney issues, I'd rather feed a
higher phosphorus canned diet than lower phosphorus dry food. There is
no evidence that somewhat higher phosphorus levels than the Hill's Gods
dictate note intense sarcasm here ;-) are harmful to healthy cats.
It's becomes a concern with kidney failure (which may be postponed or
avoided by feeding a canned diet). If you look at the phosphorus content
of a mouse, it's higher than cat food. The constant state of dehydration
that occurs as a result of feeding dry food is, IMO, much more harmful.



Thanks.

I think we're going to go with a variety of wet food in the morning and
afternoon and leave them some dry overnight. Hopefully over time they'll
learn to like the better quality wet, but in the meantime, I want them to get
good nutrition, so I'll let them have some dry. Plus, I think it's good for
them to have to chew once in a while. *G*
They can get the water content of the wet and the nutrition of the dry for
now.

I sure wish I could talk to them and bribe them with treats for eating the
good stuff. *smiles*

You know, why is it the higher-quality wet looks like paste and the lower-
quality wet is all full of gravy and looks almost good enough for me to eat?
Well, not really, but you know what I mean. *heh*
No wonder they prefer the Fancy Feast. The good stuff sure doesn't look very
good, and it doesn't smell very good, either. If I were a cat, I'd probably
refuse to eat it, too.

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