NBC: Real Bush Quotes

From: (Liz)

- George W. Bush

Isn´t he an absolutely BRILLIANT man? (cof cof arghhhhh). I remember
when some national forest was on fire and he suggested cutting all the
trees. His conclusion was that they would have the safest forest in
the world. Anybody seen something called "forest" without trees? LOL


These are all urban myths. Why you guys fall for this stuff is beyond me!

Gaubster wrote:
These are all urban myths

As wildfires rage through the west for the fifth straight year, George
Bush has come up with a novel solution to prevent them. Cut down the
trees. By Regis T. Sabol

Taking a break from his month-long "working vacation," Bush led a
motorcade, including a large contingent from the news media, on a ride
up a 3,200-foot mountain in Oregon for another of his endless photo
opportunities. Standing in front of a backdrop of charred earth left
from one of the worst forest fires in Oregon's history, Bush said the
fire could have been prevented if the logging industry had just been
permitted to cut down all those big
trees. In other words, blame the tree huggers and other enemies of his
administration.
"What the critics need to do is come and see firsthand the effect of bad
forest policy," he told the press. "That's what they need to come and
see." Then he let the cat out of the bag. "And by the way, there's
nothing wrong with people being able to earn a living off of effective
forest management,"
Bush added. "There are a lot of people in this part of the state who
can't find work." Once again, blame the tree huggers.
Bush said he wants "to bring a little common sense to forest policy."
Here's the Administration's idea of common sense:
1. Allow logging companies to clear cut large swaths of mature trees
under the guise of removing the dense underbrush that acts like kindling
to fuel wildfires.
2. Have Congress waive provisions of the National Environmental Policy
Act of 1970, which allow environmentalists to seek court action to
control the rapacity of the logging industry and its factotum, the U.S.
Forest Service.
As Interior Secretary and James Watt prot=E9g=E9 Gail A. Norton
explained, Bush would give loggers greater leeway to cut larger, more
commercially valuable trees as well as worthless brush and deny
environmentalists legal tools they have used to block such logging.
Translation: We're giving our nation's forests to the logging industry
and there's nothing you tree huggers are going to be able to do about
it.
As Bush lamented the loss of beautiful Douglas fir and ponderosa pine
atop Squires Peak, he failed to mention that his Administration had cut
$37 million for fire prevention from the Interior Department's budget.
According to the New York Times, "the fires in the West have burned an
area larger than Connecticut and Rhode Island combined." Were the
equivalent of Connecticut and Rhode Island worth $37 million? Was Bush's
tax cut worth destroying enough forest and habitat to cover two states?
The fiery catastrophe out west once again demonstrates the shameless
opportunism Bush and his handlers will employ to advance their
ideological agenda. Even though the Interior Department and
environmentalist groups, primarily the Sierra Club, had worked out a
ten-year plan for forest management that would reduce the risk of
catastrophic forest fires while protecting old growth trees, the Bush
team has never thought twice about reneging on an agreement. See the
Kyoto Accords, the ABM treaty, etc.
Once Bush (Or was it Karl Rove?) spotted an opening that would allow the
administration's friends and big-time contributors in the logging
industry to get at those old stand trees, he jumped on it. Before you
could say, "Smokey the Bear," Bush had Air Force One buzzing low over
the Oregon blaze so photographers could take pictures of him looking out
the window of the airplane. He also made sure to get himself on camera
with a couple weary firefighters.
This strategy of photo-op manipulation and disinformation has become a
trademark of the Bush Administration. Several weeks ago, he was in
Somerset, PA, to congratulate the nine miners rescued after they were
trapped for nine days when an underground wall collapsed, nearly
drowning them. What Bush did not mention is that his administration has
drastically cut the mine safety program budget at a time when more small
coal mines are opening, increasing the risk of such accidents. Nor did
he mention that the men were working at a non-union mine where the
owners were under less pressure to make sure their miners work in safe
conditions. For example, who gave the miners the map that indicated it
was safe for them to dig coal within feet of a flooded mineshaft?
And on Labor Day, no less, Bush will speak at a union training center
near Pittsburgh-just to show the folks that he really is just another
working stiff, even if he's never worked a day in his life. This is the
president who wants to deny civil service protections to the thousands
of federal employees who will come under the thumb of his frighteningly
entitled Department of Homeland Security. (Will its initials translate
into NKVD or KGB? Will the German pronunciation be Gestapo?) I wonder
how close the protesters will get to the TV cameras. The Bush team seems
to have a working rule that no protesters should ever appear within a
block of Bush. All Dubya wants to see are happy, smiling faces.
And, of course, we all know how effectively Bush and his advisors used
the terrorist attacks of 9/11 as a bulldozer to acquire frightening
increases in power and ludicrous increases in military spending. Bush
used 9/11 like a hand full of hearts and aces. All the more reason we
should never forget that this is the man who said of the attacks, "I
guess I hit the trifecta." Three thousand people, the vast majority of
them Americans, are killed, and that's hitting the trifecta?
Nor should we forget George Bush landing in New York City to promise the
citizens of New York that the federal government would provide billions
to help the city recover from the loss of the World Trade Center. What
he didn' t tell the grateful multitude is that he would not include such
funding in his budget.
These sorts of shenanigans must run in the Bush family. Brother Jeb,
governor of Florida, has proposed removing 600 bodies of water from the
state's "impaired" list by simply changing the definition of "impaired."
The water will be just as polluted as it was while it still carried the
stigma of being "impaired," but now it will be "safe" for Floridians to
drink, bathe in, swim in, and fish from. That must be a comfort.
What the Bush brothers and their buddies in the oil, gas, coal, and
nuclear power industries don't seem to care or to comprehend is that
their greed, their need for now, is destroying the future for not just
us, but for our children and grandchildren. Air and water have become
precious commodities not easily replenished. The planet NEEDS large
forests of trees to provide the precious oxygen and rain-producing
moisture we all need to exist.
George Dubya has shown the extent of his concern for the environment by
snubbing the United Nations' World Summit on Sustainable Development in
Johannesburg, South Africa, this week. While more than 100 presidents
and prime ministers, including most European leaders, are there, the
alleged leader of the free world is back in Crawford, Texas, clearing
brush.
You gotta clear that brush, boy. And cut down those trees.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Gaubster wrote:
These are all urban myths

As wildfires rage through the west for the fifth straight year, George
Bush has come up with a novel solution to prevent them. Cut down the
trees. By Regis T. Sabol

Taking a break from his month-long "working vacation," Bush led a
motorcade, including a large contingent from the news media, on a ride
up a 3,200-foot mountain in Oregon for another of his endless photo
opportunities. Standing in front of a backdrop of charred earth left
from one of the worst forest fires in Oregon's history, Bush said the
fire could have been prevented if the logging industry had just been
permitted to cut down all those big
trees. In other words, blame the tree huggers and other enemies of his
administration.
"What the critics need to do is come and see firsthand the effect of bad
forest policy," he told the press. "That's what they need to come and
see." Then he let the cat out of the bag. "And by the way, there's
nothing wrong with people being able to earn a living off of effective
forest management,"
Bush added. "There are a lot of people in this part of the state who
can't find work." Once again, blame the tree huggers.
Bush said he wants "to bring a little common sense to forest policy."
Here's the Administration's idea of common sense:
1. Allow logging companies to clear cut large swaths of mature trees
under the guise of removing the dense underbrush that acts like kindling
to fuel wildfires.
2. Have Congress waive provisions of the National Environmental Policy
Act of 1970, which allow environmentalists to seek court action to
control the rapacity of the logging industry and its factotum, the U.S.
Forest Service.
As Interior Secretary and James Watt prot=E9g=E9 Gail A. Norton
explained, Bush would give loggers greater leeway to cut larger, more
commercially valuable trees as well as worthless brush and deny
environmentalists legal tools they have used to block such logging.
Translation: We're giving our nation's forests to the logging industry
and there's nothing you tree huggers are going to be able to do about
it.
As Bush lamented the loss of beautiful Douglas fir and ponderosa pine
atop Squires Peak, he failed to mention that his Administration had cut
$37 million for fire prevention from the Interior Department's budget.
According to the New York Times, "the fires in the West have burned an
area larger than Connecticut and Rhode Island combined." Were the
equivalent of Connecticut and Rhode Island worth $37 million? Was Bush's
tax cut worth destroying enough forest and habitat to cover two states?
The fiery catastrophe out west once again demonstrates the shameless
opportunism Bush and his handlers will employ to advance their
ideological agenda. Even though the Interior Department and
environmentalist groups, primarily the Sierra Club, had worked out a
ten-year plan for forest management that would reduce the risk of
catastrophic forest fires while protecting old growth trees, the Bush
team has never thought twice about reneging on an agreement. See the
Kyoto Accords, the ABM treaty, etc.
Once Bush (Or was it Karl Rove?) spotted an opening that would allow the
administration's friends and big-time contributors in the logging
industry to get at those old stand trees, he jumped on it. Before you
could say, "Smokey the Bear," Bush had Air Force One buzzing low over
the Oregon blaze so photographers could take pictures of him looking out
the window of the airplane. He also made sure to get himself on camera
with a couple weary firefighters.
This strategy of photo-op manipulation and disinformation has become a
trademark of the Bush Administration. Several weeks ago, he was in
Somerset, PA, to congratulate the nine miners rescued after they were
trapped for nine days when an underground wall collapsed, nearly
drowning them. What Bush did not mention is that his administration has
drastically cut the mine safety program budget at a time when more small
coal mines are opening, increasing the risk of such accidents. Nor did
he mention that the men were working at a non-union mine where the
owners were under less pressure to make sure their miners work in safe
conditions. For example, who gave the miners the map that indicated it
was safe for them to dig coal within feet of a flooded mineshaft?
And on Labor Day, no less, Bush will speak at a union training center
near Pittsburgh-just to show the folks that he really is just another
working stiff, even if he's never worked a day in his life. This is the
president who wants to deny civil service protections to the thousands
of federal employees who will come under the thumb of his frighteningly
entitled Department of Homeland Security. (Will its initials translate
into NKVD or KGB? Will the German pronunciation be Gestapo?) I wonder
how close the protesters will get to the TV cameras. The Bush team seems
to have a working rule that no protesters should ever appear within a
block of Bush. All Dubya wants to see are happy, smiling faces.
And, of course, we all know how effectively Bush and his advisors used
the terrorist attacks of 9/11 as a bulldozer to acquire frightening
increases in power and ludicrous increases in military spending. Bush
used 9/11 like a hand full of hearts and aces. All the more reason we
should never forget that this is the man who said of the attacks, "I
guess I hit the trifecta." Three thousand people, the vast majority of
them Americans, are killed, and that's hitting the trifecta?
Nor should we forget George Bush landing in New York City to promise the
citizens of New York that the federal government would provide billions
to help the city recover from the loss of the World Trade Center. What
he didn' t tell the grateful multitude is that he would not include such
funding in his budget.
These sorts of shenanigans must run in the Bush family. Brother Jeb,
governor of Florida, has proposed removing 600 bodies of water from the
state's "impaired" list by simply changing the definition of "impaired."
The water will be just as polluted as it was while it still carried the
stigma of being "impaired," but now it will be "safe" for Floridians to
drink, bathe in, swim in, and fish from. That must be a comfort.
What the Bush brothers and their buddies in the oil, gas, coal, and
nuclear power industries don't seem to care or to comprehend is that
their greed, their need for now, is destroying the future for not just
us, but for our children and grandchildren. Air and water have become
precious commodities not easily replenished. The planet NEEDS large
forests of trees to provide the precious oxygen and rain-producing
moisture we all need to exist.
George Dubya has shown the extent of his concern for the environment by
snubbing the United Nations' World Summit on Sustainable Development in
Johannesburg, South Africa, this week. While more than 100 presidents
and prime ministers, including most European leaders, are there, the
alleged leader of the free world is back in Crawford, Texas, clearing
brush.
You gotta clear that brush, boy. And cut down those trees.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Gaubster wrote:
These are all urban myths

As wildfires rage through the west for the fifth straight year, George
Bush has come up with a novel solution to prevent them. Cut down the
trees. By Regis T. Sabol

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on. The underbrush that accumulates is just kindling
for lightning strikes to create out of control wildfires. There is such a
thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack Bush from the
middle instead of from the left, with the rest of the crazies.

Gaubster wrote:
These are all urban myths

As wildfires rage through the west for the fifth straight year, George
Bush has come up with a novel solution to prevent them. Cut down the
trees. By Regis T. Sabol

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on. The underbrush that accumulates is just kindling
for lightning strikes to create out of control wildfires. There is such a
thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack Bush from the
middle instead of from the left, with the rest of the crazies.

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message ...

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on.

Yes. They are in league with Communists and The Devil.
Environmentalists actually have the sole aim of turning America in a
giant botanical garden.


thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

Heavens! We'll soon be unable to see the wood for the trees - which,
incidentally, seems to be your usual state of perception.


That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack Bush from
the middle instead of from the left,

You mean like a lead pipe to the solar plexus?

Steve.

(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message ...

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on.

Yes. They are in league with Communists and The Devil.
Environmentalists actually have the sole aim of turning America in a
giant botanical garden.


thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

Heavens! We'll soon be unable to see the wood for the trees - which,
incidentally, seems to be your usual state of perception.


That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack Bush from
the middle instead of from the left,

You mean like a lead pipe to the solar plexus?

Steve.

"Steve G" wrote in message
om...
(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message
...

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental
wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on.

Yes. They are in league with Communists and The Devil.
Environmentalists actually have the sole aim of turning America in a
giant botanical garden.


Horrors! :')

thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that
logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one
they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

Heavens! We'll soon be unable to see the wood for the trees - which,
incidentally, seems to be your usual state of perception.

Hehe ...


That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in
the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack
Bush from
the middle instead of from the left,

You mean like a lead pipe to the solar plexus?

Steve.

Now that's just mean.

"Steve G" wrote in message
om...
(GAUBSTER2) wrote in message
...

Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is that the environmental
wackos don't
want "any" cutting to go on.

Yes. They are in league with Communists and The Devil.
Environmentalists actually have the sole aim of turning America in a
giant botanical garden.


Horrors! :')

thing as responsible logging. Not to mention the fact that
logging companies
replant at least 2 or 3 trees (sometimes many more) for every one
they cut.
They don't want to go out of business, you know.

Heavens! We'll soon be unable to see the wood for the trees - which,
incidentally, seems to be your usual state of perception.

Hehe ...


That was a completely biased article that you posted. I live in
the Pac. NW
and that article was way off base. Perhaps you can try to attack
Bush from
the middle instead of from the left,

You mean like a lead pipe to the solar plexus?

Steve.

Now that's just mean.

Gaubster wrote:
Nice spin job. The fact of the matter is
that the environmental wackos don't want
"any" cutting to go on.

Prove it. The article stated that the Interior Department and the Sierra
Club, among others, have worked out a 10 year plan to reduce fire risks
and protect "old growth" trees. That by no means implies or means that
there won't be any cutting and it would be silly to think so. You also
conveniently ignored the fact that Bush cut $37 million from the fire
prevention budget.

The underbrush that accumulates is just
kindling for lightning strikes to create out
of control wildfires. There is such a thing
as responsible logging.

Maybe, but that is not what the Bush administration has in mind. They
have no compunction about destroying habitat and endangering/destroying
species that live in that habitat, and they want to make sure there are
no avenues for people that actually care about the environment to stop
them. Checks and balances are something the Bush administration prefers
to avoid at all costs and every opportunity (see "dictatorship.").

Not to mention the fact that logging
companies replant at least 2 or 3 trees
(sometimes many more) for every one
they cut. They don't want to go out of
business, you know.

Please provide proof that says that is what would happen in this
instance.

That was a completely biased article that
you posted.

You had the opportunity to post cites that dispute what it says, but
instead use the lame excuse that "I live in the Pacific NW so it must be
wrong." Laughable, yet typical.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray