Animals do not "anticipate"

"Leif Erikson" wrote

That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind

You're not worth the effort it takes to respond to any more beyond this.

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com

Opinicus wrote:

"Leif Erikson" wrote


That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind


You're not worth the effort it takes to respond to any more beyond this.

Good, if rather graceless, concession, Bob. I
addressed your claims civilly and comprehensively, and
all you can do is whine and then run away.

Animals do anticipate. The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.
Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go to the top of the couch half an hour before I
used to come and speak as some dogs do which is different then barking,
dog speak so to say. This would happen every day for a year.
One day I was not able to walk Tylo due to something urgent coming up
and I was not by a phone to let my friend who had Tylo know, Tylo was
so upset they had to calm him down for two hours. And the next time I
came he was all hang tail and anxious until he saw that I was back to
walking. It was so upsetting to see his reaction I began to take my
cell phone so I could let my friend know.
Now if he was told I was not coming he would accept it and go and play
with his toys or cuddle with the owners.
Animals are very multi-dimensional and more ware than we give them
credit for generally.
They have a sixth sense that can also make them intuative.
Show Dog Bark

showdogbark wrote:

Animals do anticipate.

They do not.


The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.

That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection.


Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle]

You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't
really there. You are projecting.

Eden wrote:
showdogbark wrote:

Animals do anticipate.

They do not.


The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.

That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection.


Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle]

You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't
really there. You are projecting.



And you are a very odd little man Goober.

On Wed, 10 May 2006, Goo foolishly and absurdly thought:

Opinicus wrote:

Goo hilariously compared the ability to understand language,
with the ability to anticipate :-)


If you telephone the veterinarian and make an appointment to take your dog
in, and the dog is sitting in the room with you as you make the call, the
dog does not anticipate the trip to the vet; but if you do the same thing
with a child age 5 or more, there's a very good chance the child will know
he is going to be seeing the doctor. That's anticipation.


Bad example because it depends on language ability.

That's part of what makes it a GOOD example. The kind
of anticipation you and ****wit David Harrison are
trying to attribute to dogs and other animals

By YOUR denial of its very existence is admittedly beyond your ability to
even recognise, much less understand or consider in any detail Goobernicus.

*absolutely* depends on language -

LOL! Mine doesn't, you poor fool. You make such an ass of yourself when
you attempt to think about things that you deny even exist Goober. LOL...
Your attempt to interpret things you can't understand clearly shows the
sort of absurd and foolish conclusions that are the best you're capable of,
Goo.

that's why animals don't experience it.

They experience anticipation that's not dependant on language Goob. No
emotions are dependant on language Goober, as I've mentioned before. In
fact no emotions can even be described with language, as I've mentioned
before. And we've also seen evidence of that, by the fact that YOU can not
describe any emotion using language. You are a fool for thinking that it can
be done, and an even bigger fool for not comprehending that it can't.

Here's an example that doesn't.

Our 1-year old German Shepherd/Dobe mix hated getting wet in any way
whatsoever. On one occasion when it was raining he had to *go* so he went to
the door and indicated he wanted to be let out. Knowing that it was raining
and wondering what he'd do, I opened the door. He took a couple of steps out
the door and immediately retreated back inside. I shut the door.

After a few moments he must have had a canine "aha" moment because he went
to the *back* door and indicated he wanted to be let out. Amused, I opened
that door, he took a couple of steps, etc etc.

Now I call this anticipation. Why? Because he was anticipating

So you need to use the word "anticipation" in order to
explain why what he was doing was "anticipation". Nice
trick; also completely invalid.

The dog was not "anticipating" anything.

If the dog was not anticipating being let out the first door, why did he go to
it indicating that he wanted to be?

If the dog did not anticipate getting wet if he went out in the rain, why did
he retreat back in instead of going out and getting?

If the dog did not anticipate being let out the second door, why did he go to
it indicating that he wanted to be?

If the dog did not anticipate getting wet if he went out in the rain AGAIN, why
did he retreat back in instead of going out AGAIN?

How could your absurdity about projections by humans, have caused the
dog to behave in a way that clearly appeared to be several examples of
anticipation? Goo??? How??? For once instead of ineptly maundering off,
just *try* to explain yourself Goober!

On 11 May 2006 10:32:16 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:


Eden wrote:
showdogbark wrote:

Animals do anticipate.

They do not.


The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.

That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection.


Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle]

You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't
really there. You are projecting.

How does your supposed projection change the behavior of animals,
you poor, bewildered, feverishly confused, necessarily inept Goobal idiot?

And you are a very odd little man Goober.

I wonder if there's a name for Goo's particular form of idiocy. Maybe
Goobernical Syndrome, or something like that...

wrote:
On 11 May 2006 10:32:16 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:


Eden wrote:
showdogbark wrote:

Animals do anticipate.

They do not.


The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.

That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection.


Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle]

You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't
really there. You are projecting.

How does your supposed projection change the behavior of animals,
you poor, bewildered, feverishly confused, necessarily inept Goobal idiot?

And you are a very odd little man Goober.

I wonder if there's a name for Goo's particular form of idiocy. Maybe
Goobernical Syndrome, or something like that...


It would take a battalion of shrinks to unravel the GOOBER and examine
his inner workings.

On 15 May 2006 an inept Goober dishonestly "boasted":

NOTHING you can understand is beyond my or any other sane person's
ability, ****wit.

I understand how some farm animals benefit from farming. You can't.

On 15 May 2006 10:59:14 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:


wrote:
On 11 May 2006 10:32:16 -0700, "shrubkiller" wrote:


Eden wrote:
showdogbark wrote:

Animals do anticipate.

They do not.


The book called Dogs Don't Lie About Love has
many examples.

That book is nothing but anthropomorphic projection.


Dogs know at least 300 words according to Stanley Coren along with
their meaning and so along with the word associations there are timing
associations as dogs are very aware of time, case in point, I used to
go for a walk twice a day with an English Springer Spaniel. I would go
at 11 A.M. and 7 P.M.
Tylo the dog would go [snip sentimental treacle]

You are seeing what you want to see in dogs. It isn't
really there. You are projecting.

How does your supposed projection change the behavior of animals,
you poor, bewildered, feverishly confused, necessarily inept Goobal idiot?

And you are a very odd little man Goober.

I wonder if there's a name for Goo's particular form of idiocy. Maybe
Goobernical Syndrome, or something like that...


It would take a battalion of shrinks to unravel the GOOBER and examine
his inner workings.

And they would probably have to become absurdly inept themselves
in order to ever understand Goo's idiocy...and maybe not even then. In
this and other areas we see that the Goober amusingly can't decide what
he believes himself, while at the same time he tries to absurdify the beliefs
of others. Goobernicus has pretended to lamely explain what causes
behavior, while at other times he ineptly and dishonestly maunders that
the behavior he pretended to explain doesn't even exist:

"it is merely giving a CONDITIONED RESPONSE to a signal." - Goo

"The dog didn't do what Darwin said. His statement of the "changes in
behavior" is not reliable." - Goo