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hiya ,
just to show the other side of the argument Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Lots of tail injuries also happen in dogs that are kennelled including greyhounds. Alison Pro-docking : http://www.cdb.org/ "Orchid" wrote in message om... On 21 Nov 2003 01:09:21 GMT, olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: From: (Orchid) I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. The poor boy's tail was beaten bloody, with tatters of skin hanging off. He was of course rushed to the vet, and ended up having his tail amputated because of the damage. Hunting dogs just get so into what they are doing that they don't notice that they are smacking their poor tails into shreds. I know, you'd think the pain would stop them, but it doesn't. I'd heard about this happening before. I guess in such a case, it's for the animal's own welfare. I wonder how often it happens to hunting dogs? Do you have any idea? An undocked brush dog (spaniels, etc) *will* cause serious damage to its tail if allowed to hunt. Most statistics are from the UK, as the ability to dock has been seriously threatened there. You can find photos of tail damage he http://www.cdb.org/ WARNING -- THE PHOTOS ON THIS SITE ARE GRAPHIC. That site also has a lot of very good information regarding the procedure, pain experienced by the puppies, and why it needs to be done. They also have a video of a docking procedure so you can, if you wish, see for yourself how little it affects the puppies. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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hiya ,
just to show the other side of the argument Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Lots of tail injuries also happen in dogs that are kennelled including greyhounds. Alison Pro-docking : http://www.cdb.org/ "Orchid" wrote in message om... On 21 Nov 2003 01:09:21 GMT, olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: From: (Orchid) I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. The poor boy's tail was beaten bloody, with tatters of skin hanging off. He was of course rushed to the vet, and ended up having his tail amputated because of the damage. Hunting dogs just get so into what they are doing that they don't notice that they are smacking their poor tails into shreds. I know, you'd think the pain would stop them, but it doesn't. I'd heard about this happening before. I guess in such a case, it's for the animal's own welfare. I wonder how often it happens to hunting dogs? Do you have any idea? An undocked brush dog (spaniels, etc) *will* cause serious damage to its tail if allowed to hunt. Most statistics are from the UK, as the ability to dock has been seriously threatened there. You can find photos of tail damage he http://www.cdb.org/ WARNING -- THE PHOTOS ON THIS SITE ARE GRAPHIC. That site also has a lot of very good information regarding the procedure, pain experienced by the puppies, and why it needs to be done. They also have a video of a docking procedure so you can, if you wish, see for yourself how little it affects the puppies. Orchid Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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From: "Alison"
hiya , just to show the other side of the argument Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Interesting. I wonder what their policies are on declawing? ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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From: "Alison"
hiya , just to show the other side of the argument Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Interesting. I wonder what their policies are on declawing? ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. They can really injure their tails. I do wonder, though, why hunters don't come up with some sort of protective gear for the tail instead of cutting it off. Right now, the best option *is* docking if the dog is used for hunting, but it seems to me that there should be another option. If a horse banged up its legs, they'd put on leg wraps, not cut them off. I stub my toes a lot. I wouldn't want them removed. I'd want to wear shoes. *LOL* It just makes me wonder if the real problem isn't a lack of respect for the dog, not really something that is in the dog's best interests. As for declawing, well, we know that doesn't do a damn thing for the cat, so it isn't even comparable. -- ~kaeli~ A man's home is his castle..., in a manor of speaking. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. They can really injure their tails. I do wonder, though, why hunters don't come up with some sort of protective gear for the tail instead of cutting it off. Right now, the best option *is* docking if the dog is used for hunting, but it seems to me that there should be another option. If a horse banged up its legs, they'd put on leg wraps, not cut them off. I stub my toes a lot. I wouldn't want them removed. I'd want to wear shoes. *LOL* It just makes me wonder if the real problem isn't a lack of respect for the dog, not really something that is in the dog's best interests. As for declawing, well, we know that doesn't do a damn thing for the cat, so it isn't even comparable. -- ~kaeli~ A man's home is his castle..., in a manor of speaking. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. They can really injure their tails. I do wonder, though, why hunters don't come up with some sort of protective gear for the tail instead of cutting it off. Right now, the best option *is* docking if the dog is used for hunting, but it seems to me that there should be another option. If a horse banged up its legs, they'd put on leg wraps, not cut them off. I stub my toes a lot. I wouldn't want them removed. I'd want to wear shoes. *LOL* It just makes me wonder if the real problem isn't a lack of respect for the dog, not really something that is in the dog's best interests. As for declawing, well, we know that doesn't do a damn thing for the cat, so it isn't even comparable. -- ~kaeli~ A man's home is his castle..., in a manor of speaking. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Interesting. I wonder what their policies are on declawing? ________ It's not an issue in the UK nor is ear cropping and de-barking . I think the anti-dock would be heartily against declawing . Alison |
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message Anti-docking Alliance: http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page_9.htm Interesting. I wonder what their policies are on declawing? ________ It's not an issue in the UK nor is ear cropping and de-barking . I think the anti-dock would be heartily against declawing . Alison |
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