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#82
November 7th 03, 08:44 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... Phil P. wrote: "PawsForThought" wrote in message ... . My little Meesha has it too. Sure she does, "Me Too" Lauren.... Lemme guess: She developed asthma from eating Science Diet....? In my particular case, we see a hollistic vet, and we switched her to a homemade raw diet, as well as using natural remedies, which has been greatly beneficial. Are you now saying you switched your cat to a raw diet specifically as part of a therapeutic plan to treat her asthma, or was her development of asthma and subsequent switch to a raw diet coincidental to your au naturel fanatical obsession? Didn't you say you switched all your animals to a raw at the same time? Do try to keep your conjured up stories and built-to-suit-experiences in some kind chronological order.... Asthma and granulomas can indicate a weak immune system, More of your au naturel fanatic cult nonsense.... Most cats with either or both diseases are otherwise healthy. Both diseases have multiple causes, the most common causes are hypersensitivity and genetic predisposition. The prevalence of asthma in the Siamese is 5 times higher than in the general feline population -- which *strongly* suggests a genetic predisposition. There is no breed predilection for EGC, but the prevalence of indolent ulcer is higher in females. Phil, get off her freaking back. LOL! You sound like a drill sergeant! I hope you don't look like one! If you want to give me an order, call my sales department in the morning.... I simply asked her for clarification because there seems to be a discrepancy in the chronological order of her conjured up, built-to-suit, stories.... You may want to rethink your position. I'd hate to see you jeopardize your credibility by supporting an obvious pathological liar. 
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#83
November 7th 03, 08:44 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... Phil P. wrote: "PawsForThought" wrote in message ... . My little Meesha has it too. Sure she does, "Me Too" Lauren.... Lemme guess: She developed asthma from eating Science Diet....? In my particular case, we see a hollistic vet, and we switched her to a homemade raw diet, as well as using natural remedies, which has been greatly beneficial. Are you now saying you switched your cat to a raw diet specifically as part of a therapeutic plan to treat her asthma, or was her development of asthma and subsequent switch to a raw diet coincidental to your au naturel fanatical obsession? Didn't you say you switched all your animals to a raw at the same time? Do try to keep your conjured up stories and built-to-suit-experiences in some kind chronological order.... Asthma and granulomas can indicate a weak immune system, More of your au naturel fanatic cult nonsense.... Most cats with either or both diseases are otherwise healthy. Both diseases have multiple causes, the most common causes are hypersensitivity and genetic predisposition. The prevalence of asthma in the Siamese is 5 times higher than in the general feline population -- which *strongly* suggests a genetic predisposition. There is no breed predilection for EGC, but the prevalence of indolent ulcer is higher in females. Phil, get off her freaking back. LOL! You sound like a drill sergeant! I hope you don't look like one! If you want to give me an order, call my sales department in the morning.... I simply asked her for clarification because there seems to be a discrepancy in the chronological order of her conjured up, built-to-suit, stories.... You may want to rethink your position. I'd hate to see you jeopardize your credibility by supporting an obvious pathological liar.
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#84
November 7th 03, 08:46 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... No one exactly knows what all affects these kinds of disorders, so back off. LOL! Sounds like an order.... If you want to place an order, call my sales dept. LOL! Unless you can *disprove* what was stated, it remains a viable opinion, just like most on here. So you would like me to disprove an unproven theory? Okey dokey... ROTFL!
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#85
November 7th 03, 08:46 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... No one exactly knows what all affects these kinds of disorders, so back off. LOL! Sounds like an order.... If you want to place an order, call my sales dept. LOL! Unless you can *disprove* what was stated, it remains a viable opinion, just like most on here. So you would like me to disprove an unproven theory? Okey dokey... ROTFL!
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#86
November 7th 03, 08:48 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... Phil P. wrote: "PawsForThought" wrote in message ... . My little Meesha has it too. Sure she does, "Me Too" Lauren.... Lemme guess: She developed asthma from eating Science Diet....? In my particular case, we see a hollistic vet, and we switched her to a homemade raw diet, as well as using natural remedies, which has been greatly beneficial. Are you now saying you switched your cat to a raw diet specifically as part of a therapeutic plan ro treat her asthma, or was her development of asthma and subsequent switch to a raw diet coincidental to your au naturel fanatical obsession? Didn't you say you switched all your animals to a raw at the same time? Do try to keep your conjured up stories and built-to-suit-experiences in some kind chronological order.... Asthma and granulomas can indicate a weak immune system, More of your au naturel fanatic cult nonsense.... Most cats with either or both diseases are otherwise healthy. Both diseases have multiple causes, the most common causes are hypersensitivity and genetic predisposition. The prevalence of asthma in the Siamese is 5 times higher than in the general feline population -- which *strongly* suggests a genetic predisposition. There is no breed predilection for EGC, but the prevalence of indolent ulcer is higher in females. Phil, get off her freaking back. I don't take orders.... You can place your orders through my sales department between 7AM and 7 PM or by fax and email 24/7..... Make a note of that... She offered some advice. ....and misleading information... Mary's a big girl. She doesn't have to take it if she doesn't want to. Mary or others may not have known Me Too Lauren's information wasn't accurate.... Why are you jumping around threads *just* to rip on her? No. Simply correcting her misleading information... Don't you have anything better to do? Yes...I do but I'm not doing it because I had to correct Me Too Lauren's misleading information... Give your advice and lay off, See my above instruction for placing orders.... the bickering is getting ridiculous! ....and your bickering with Chris isn't?
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#87
November 7th 03, 08:48 AM
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"Karen M." wrote in message ... Phil P. wrote: "PawsForThought" wrote in message ... . My little Meesha has it too. Sure she does, "Me Too" Lauren.... Lemme guess: She developed asthma from eating Science Diet....? In my particular case, we see a hollistic vet, and we switched her to a homemade raw diet, as well as using natural remedies, which has been greatly beneficial. Are you now saying you switched your cat to a raw diet specifically as part of a therapeutic plan ro treat her asthma, or was her development of asthma and subsequent switch to a raw diet coincidental to your au naturel fanatical obsession? Didn't you say you switched all your animals to a raw at the same time? Do try to keep your conjured up stories and built-to-suit-experiences in some kind chronological order.... Asthma and granulomas can indicate a weak immune system, More of your au naturel fanatic cult nonsense.... Most cats with either or both diseases are otherwise healthy. Both diseases have multiple causes, the most common causes are hypersensitivity and genetic predisposition. The prevalence of asthma in the Siamese is 5 times higher than in the general feline population -- which *strongly* suggests a genetic predisposition. There is no breed predilection for EGC, but the prevalence of indolent ulcer is higher in females. Phil, get off her freaking back. I don't take orders.... You can place your orders through my sales department between 7AM and 7 PM or by fax and email 24/7..... Make a note of that... She offered some advice. ....and misleading information... Mary's a big girl. She doesn't have to take it if she doesn't want to. Mary or others may not have known Me Too Lauren's information wasn't accurate.... Why are you jumping around threads *just* to rip on her? No. Simply correcting her misleading information... Don't you have anything better to do? Yes...I do but I'm not doing it because I had to correct Me Too Lauren's misleading information... Give your advice and lay off, See my above instruction for placing orders.... the bickering is getting ridiculous! ....and your bickering with Chris isn't?
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#88
November 7th 03, 08:51 AM
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message ... Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian, Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos are *dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the early stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of effecting a cure. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14 years. Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo and magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real* veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too late. something Phil is NOT. Let's see, shall I listen to a highly respected professional veterinarian, "Highly respected" by mostly clueless idiots like you... You don't have a clue how ignorant you are because you only listen to what you want to hear and only read your $10 novels by vet-turned-booksellers who couldn't get published in *real* veterinary texts... A Chinese proverb describes you perfectly: "The frog at the bottom of the well thinks the whole sky is only a meter wide".... or some a*hole vet wannabee on an internet newsgroup? LOL Now that sure sums up your mentality! LOL! IOW, *everyone* posting advice in internet newsgroups are "a*hole vet wannabee s" including *you*! LOL! You keep forgetting I remember when you began posting.... You sure accumulated a lot of "experiences" before you began posting *after* you began posting.... LOL!
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#89
November 7th 03, 08:51 AM
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message ... Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian, Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos are *dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the early stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of effecting a cure. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14 years. Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo and magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real* veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too late. something Phil is NOT. Let's see, shall I listen to a highly respected professional veterinarian, "Highly respected" by mostly clueless idiots like you... You don't have a clue how ignorant you are because you only listen to what you want to hear and only read your $10 novels by vet-turned-booksellers who couldn't get published in *real* veterinary texts... A Chinese proverb describes you perfectly: "The frog at the bottom of the well thinks the whole sky is only a meter wide".... or some a*hole vet wannabee on an internet newsgroup? LOL Now that sure sums up your mentality! LOL! IOW, *everyone* posting advice in internet newsgroups are "a*hole vet wannabee s" including *you*! LOL! You keep forgetting I remember when you began posting.... You sure accumulated a lot of "experiences" before you began posting *after* you began posting.... LOL!
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#90
November 7th 03, 08:54 AM
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message ... From: (Steve Crane) "Karen M." wrote in message ... Phil, get off her freaking back. She offered some advice. Mary's a big girl. She doesn't have to take it if she doesn't want to. Why are you jumping around threads *just* to rip on her? Don't you have anything better to do? Give your advice and lay off, the bickering is getting ridiculous! Karen, I won't speak for Phil, but continuous attempts to cure every ill known to man by suggesting a raw diet is really really dangerous. Seriously it is extremely dangerous to offer some of the advice I have seen on this and other NG's by the raw crowd. I've seen advice for renal failure cats and dogs that would have killed them in very short order. I think there is an obligation to temper the wild claims and testimonial evidence with some facts once in awhile. Some pet's will inevitably suffer if it isn't done. Oh please, give me a freakin' break already, Steve! It's so obvious that you have a problem with anyone who doesn't feed a commercial diet and especially Hill's, the company YOU work for. *You* give us a freakin break already! You have a "me too" story about your cats for almost every illness that has been mentioned on this newsgroup for the last year or so that you claim "disappeared" after you switched to feeding raw! You're just not smart enough to remember your stories... I've never claimed a raw diet will "cure every ill known to man" .....just nearly all the diseases mentioned on this newsgroup in the past year or so.... and I've never seen anyone else in this newsgroup make that claim either. That is a bald face lie and you know it! And who would know more about bald face lies than you! They're your specialty.... You just can't stand it that I tell people my experiences with Hill's products. ROTFL! We've fed Hill's foods to literally *thousands* of animals over that past few years, and our 4 vets' clients feed Hill's to well over another thousand animals too. No *hundred* cats *combined* experienced half of the adverse effects that you claim your cats experienced from Hill's foods! If even half of your conjured up bullsh!t stories were true your cats would have been dead years ago. All the clerks *combined* in all three large pet stores where we have adoption centers don't get anywhere near the number of complaints about adverse effects from Hill's that you conjure up. The stores donate returned foods so I *know* which foods are returned.... and Hill's is rarely, rarely returned. You must be a complete idiot or more likely, a psycho if you actually think people believe your stories. Even a moron would have switched foods after the first, or at the most, second adverse effect... instead of switching foods after at least a dozen or so adverse effects like you claim your cats experienced. You have a "me too" story for almost every adverse effect that has been mentioned about Hill's on this newsgroup for the last year or so! You're just not intelligent enough to remember all your conjured up bullsh!t stories. How about your last beaut of story a couple of weeks ago? Anal sac disease from eating Hill's! ROTFL! Gee, you never mentioned that one before... and dozens of people posted about anal sac disease in the past few years... What happened, you suddenly remembered you cats got that too... and got it from eating Hill's? ROTFL! You forget I remember when you began posting here. Following your conjured up stories, your cats experienced more adverse effects from Hill's *after* you *stopped* feeding Hill's than they did when they were *actually* eating Hill's! LOL! I've never seen anyone in my life with such an obsessive, malicious, and actual pathological hatred for any pet food as you have for Hill's. There's something seriously wrong with you.
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