OT - Fireworks?

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On 2011-07-03, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

... "Roman Candles" are hand
held, and shoot out colored balls of flame.

Beware the dreaded roman candle backfire that burns a hole in your new
bluejeans and raises the rath of Mother.

Bud

The voice of experience? ;-)

Joy

On Jul 3, 11:46*pm, "Joy" wrote:
wrote
On 2011-07-03, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ... *"Roman Candles" are hand
held, and shoot out colored balls of flame.

Beware the dreaded roman candle backfire that burns a hole in your new
bluejeans and raises the rath of Mother.
Bud

The voice of experience? *;-)
Joy

I wrote about my happy memories of Pismo Beach 4th fireworks fun (not
only were there
semi-pro fireworks up on the boarddwalk, but we the audience were also
doing our own
detonating, pointing the missiles out toward the waterline/ocean
there. LOL we had on
old ratty clothes which we threw away later (you do NOT attempt
washing powder-scorched
clothes; not only is it ineffectual bigtime but will mess up your
washer *bad*).
We were adults, and had dug *foxholes* in the sand (I borrowed a
shovel from a nearby
family) for (snork) safe place to dive if "airborne" became "lower
trajectory".
I have a feeling when you wore those new jeans to launch roman candles
you were way
below adult age, and deserved Mother's justified reaction.

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On Jul 3, 11:46 pm, "Joy" wrote:
wrote
On 2011-07-03, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
... "Roman Candles" are hand
held, and shoot out colored balls of flame.

Beware the dreaded roman candle backfire that burns a hole in your new
bluejeans and raises the rath of Mother.
Bud

The voice of experience? ;-)
Joy

I wrote about my happy memories of Pismo Beach 4th fireworks fun (not
only were there
semi-pro fireworks up on the boarddwalk, but we the audience were also
doing our own
detonating, pointing the missiles out toward the waterline/ocean
there. LOL we had on
old ratty clothes which we threw away later (you do NOT attempt
washing powder-scorched
clothes; not only is it ineffectual bigtime but will mess up your
washer *bad*).
We were adults, and had dug *foxholes* in the sand (I borrowed a
shovel from a nearby
family) for (snork) safe place to dive if "airborne" became "lower
trajectory".
I have a feeling when you wore those new jeans to launch roman candles
you were way
below adult age, and deserved Mother's justified reaction.

***

Interesting. I gather you lived in or near Pismo Beach? My parents lived
in Arroyo Grande for several years.

Joy

On 2011-07-04 12:07 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
In this computerised age, I wonder whether the whole idea of
*representative* democracy isn't outdated, and we should go
with *direct* democracy - with all citizens allowed to have
1 vote per tabled item. That could prove... interesting.

That's more or less how the Libyan Jamahiriya is supposed to work.

It actually does, to a certain extent.

I don't think it's worked terribly well in the countries that have tried
it.


The "interesting" bit is getting bombed to hell on bogus pretexts
by the Americans and their cronies because they'd rather have a bunch
of corrupt thugs running the place, so long as they kept the oil
and money flowing to the West.

Hey, the US and/or the various outside groups) can't win. If they don't
bomb some of the Libyans, the rest of them beg for them to do so in
order to help them topple the 'thugs running the place'. If they do bomb
some of the Libyans, those Libayans naturally complain about
interference in Libyan internal affairs. True, if the Libyans didn't
have oil, all outside powers would be interested in aiding the rebels,
no matter how thuggish the rulers, and massacres would be taking place
there yet again, practically unknown in the west.

I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide whether or not the
Libyans on the ground fighting against their leaders and asking for
outside aid are lead by democrats or would-be thugs, or perhaps some of
each.

--
Cheryl

"Joy" wrote in news:4e1116b1$0$12457$bd467cd0
@news.dslextreme.com:


Right. That's one of the things I love about them.

Joy


and they love their beer

"CatNipped" wrote:

I have to say this about some third world countries trying democracy for the
first time [snip]. In spite of intimidation, in the face of being blown
to pieces and having their children intimidated with pictures of their
parents murder, these people *still* stand in line for the privilege to
vote. Whereas we have to *beg* Americans to get out and vote during
important elections

But as you say yourself, it is because they are new to democracy that
they value their votes so highly. Those of us with long experience of
democracy have a better idea of the practical worth of a vote.
--

Wayne M.

Cheryl wrote:
On 2011-07-04 12:07 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
In this computerised age, I wonder whether the whole idea of
*representative* democracy isn't outdated, and we should go
with *direct* democracy - with all citizens allowed to have
1 vote per tabled item. That could prove... interesting.

That's more or less how the Libyan Jamahiriya is supposed to work.

It actually does, to a certain extent.

I don't think it's worked terribly well in the countries that have tried
it.


The "interesting" bit is getting bombed to hell on bogus pretexts
by the Americans and their cronies because they'd rather have a bunch
of corrupt thugs running the place, so long as they kept the oil
and money flowing to the West.

Hey, the US and/or the various outside groups) can't win. If they don't
bomb some of the Libyans, the rest of them beg for them to do so in
order to help them topple the 'thugs running the place'. If they do bomb
some of the Libyans, those Libayans naturally complain about
interference in Libyan internal affairs. True, if the Libyans didn't
have oil, all outside powers would be interested in aiding the rebels,
no matter how thuggish the rulers, and massacres would be taking place
there yet again, practically unknown in the west.

IMO, the U.S. should keep its nose OUT of the politics of other
sovereign countries! (Unless they attack us, first - and the jury is
still out as to who has done what to whom, in the Middle East.)

CatNipped wrote:

I have to say this about some third world countries trying democracy for the
first time (and I'm paraphrasing Christopher Titus here whose comedy special
I watched last night). In spite of intimidation, in the face of being blown
to pieces and having their children intimidated with pictures of their
parents murder, these people *still* stand in line for the privilege to
vote. Whereas we have to *beg* Americans to get out and vote during
important elections (although *all* elections should be considered
important). Oh the weather is too cold, the lines are too long, I don't
have time, the polling place is too far... it make me ashamed that patriots
fought and died for our freedom and we toss it away on such lame excuses for
*NOT* exercising that freedom - and then have the nerve to complain about
what our leaders do.

/rant

I couldn't agree more! Also the "nightly news" might return to being
news, rather than entertainment, if more people insisted upon being
better informed.

Wayne Mitchell wrote:
"CatNipped" wrote:

I have to say this about some third world countries trying democracy for the
first time [snip]. In spite of intimidation, in the face of being blown
to pieces and having their children intimidated with pictures of their
parents murder, these people *still* stand in line for the privilege to
vote. Whereas we have to *beg* Americans to get out and vote during
important elections

But as you say yourself, it is because they are new to democracy that
they value their votes so highly. Those of us with long experience of
democracy have a better idea of the practical worth of a vote.

What about the "practical worth" of NOT voting? Care to share you views
about that?

On Jul 4, 11:52*am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
Wayne Mitchell wrote:
*"CatNipped" wrote:

I have to say this about some third world countries trying democracy for the
first time [snip]. *In spite of intimidation, in the face of being blown
to pieces and having their children intimidated with pictures of their
parents murder, these people *still* stand in line for the privilege to
vote. *Whereas we have to *beg* Americans to get out and vote during
important elections

But as you say yourself, it is because they are new to democracy that
they value their votes so highly. *Those of us with long experience of
democracy have a better idea of the practical worth of a vote.

What about the "practical worth" of NOT voting? *Care to share you views
about that?

Things have changed these days (they get juries from DMV records, not
voting
registration lists like I did when employed for Federal Court in
downtown Miami
as Jury Clerk, sitting right next to work buddy Grand Jury Clerk in
the Chief Clerk's
office in Federal Building.
To answer your question: My Big Boss, the Chief Clerk (now RB so I can
speak freely)
became irritated and using his limited "good-olle-boy" network, made a
few phone calls
which resulted in *permanently* removing me from the voting
lregistration lists in that
area. What irritated him so much was that while working hard to
construct a jury pool
for a big Fed case at ourCourthouse, I was summoned by a smaller
municipality for
*jury duty* there....thus insuring my absence from his office for
unknown time period.
His action to cease such threats to my presence at my desk (I quit
that job after
remarrying within a year of this happening) resulted in my being free
from jury summons
from *anywhere* in FL for the following 34 years (till they changed
jury construction in
FL to the *DMV* lists of licensed drivers.
I never could figure out why I was never summoned *after* the law
changed to DMV records
instead of voter lists. The only other alternative I could come up
with was ROFL: Ole Chief
Clerk got me put on "deceased" sublist of voters at the time he did
his thing to prevent me
from missing work time at his office.
Long but hopefully explanatory for your question re "not voting".
FYI I don't vote here either and have a little blue card from the Jury
Chick here excusing me
permanently from any summons from anywhere here. Signed HMO-headed
stationery from
my PCP, co-signed by my cardiologist, strongly objecting to jury
service for yours truly for
medical conditions.