free feeding VS fixed feeding

kaeli wrote in message
If they *couldn't* get it, why would the vaccine be available for adult
animals? Why would they give boosters?? Common sense says if a cat needs
a booster, it can get the disease. (IOW, I think that vet wasn't
thinking too clearly *LOL*).
Of course, it could be that whole conspiracy to make money thing. *heh*

Are you really that naive? Please see my reply to Phil. Besides,
making money is not a conspiracy, it´s a necessity.

ospam (Yngver) wrote in message
From what I could tell, the vet who made the claim based it on a study that
found that the majority of healthy adult cats will not develop FeLV when
exposed, but what if your cat turns out to be one of the some fifteen percent
or so that does develop FeLV after exposure?

They already know what gives immunity: FOCMA antibodies. If scientists
can find the gene responsible for these antibodies, they can determine
beforehand which cats are naturally immune and which are not by
checking if they have that gene or not. This is very valuable
information for breeders. They can "breed out" the disease.

ospam (Yngver) wrote in message
From what I could tell, the vet who made the claim based it on a study that
found that the majority of healthy adult cats will not develop FeLV when
exposed, but what if your cat turns out to be one of the some fifteen percent
or so that does develop FeLV after exposure?

They already know what gives immunity: FOCMA antibodies. If scientists
can find the gene responsible for these antibodies, they can determine
beforehand which cats are naturally immune and which are not by
checking if they have that gene or not. This is very valuable
information for breeders. They can "breed out" the disease.

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P."
Yeah, reality. You should visit the place someday - although you
probably
won't like it.

Your study says only 12% became infected, that's very low.

12% incidence is not low! In the at risk segment of the feline population,
12% = *millions* of cats! There's really something very seriously wrong
with you, do you realize that? You have very little regard and place very
little value on cats' lives.

Lets not forget your lunacy about not vaccinating cats so the weak ones die
off leaving "strong" cats that don't need vaccinations! The vets were
right, you are a "nut case".

You need to get out into the real world. Its painfully obvious you're
completely clueless about cats outside of your delusion.

You're a clear and present danger to cats because your agenda is more
important to you than the cats.

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P."
Yeah, reality. You should visit the place someday - although you
probably
won't like it.

Your study says only 12% became infected, that's very low.

12% incidence is not low! In the at risk segment of the feline population,
12% = *millions* of cats! There's really something very seriously wrong
with you, do you realize that? You have very little regard and place very
little value on cats' lives.

Lets not forget your lunacy about not vaccinating cats so the weak ones die
off leaving "strong" cats that don't need vaccinations! The vets were
right, you are a "nut case".

You need to get out into the real world. Its painfully obvious you're
completely clueless about cats outside of your delusion.

You're a clear and present danger to cats because your agenda is more
important to you than the cats.

(Liz) wrote:

They already know what gives immunity: FOCMA antibodies. If scientists
can find the gene responsible for these antibodies, they can determine
beforehand which cats are naturally immune and which are not by
checking if they have that gene or not. This is very valuable
information for breeders. They can "breed out" the disease.

I don't think anyone is actually arguing that it's not true that some cats have
natural immunity. But it can't be true at present that all adult cats do,
because some adult cats do develop FeLV after exposure. Yes, if there is
eventually a way to determine which cats are naturally immune, it would be very
useful information, at least for breeders, as you say. With mixed breed cats, I
can imagine owners would weigh the cost of the FeLV vaccination against the
cost of genetic testing.

(Liz) wrote:

They already know what gives immunity: FOCMA antibodies. If scientists
can find the gene responsible for these antibodies, they can determine
beforehand which cats are naturally immune and which are not by
checking if they have that gene or not. This is very valuable
information for breeders. They can "breed out" the disease.

I don't think anyone is actually arguing that it's not true that some cats have
natural immunity. But it can't be true at present that all adult cats do,
because some adult cats do develop FeLV after exposure. Yes, if there is
eventually a way to determine which cats are naturally immune, it would be very
useful information, at least for breeders, as you say. With mixed breed cats, I
can imagine owners would weigh the cost of the FeLV vaccination against the
cost of genetic testing.

(Liz) wrote in message om...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.

You can't find a study that doesn't exist...... You may find internet
fantasy *opinions*, but no such study exists and I'm sure you are
quite aware of that. In this particular case I am more dumbfounded
than usual by such fringe lunatic ideas. All one has to do is walk
through a few vet clinics and find the adult cats that have never been
vaccinated and are now dying of FELK. That would seem to be a very
easy way to disprove such a fringe lunatic theory.

(Liz) wrote in message om...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.

You can't find a study that doesn't exist...... You may find internet
fantasy *opinions*, but no such study exists and I'm sure you are
quite aware of that. In this particular case I am more dumbfounded
than usual by such fringe lunatic ideas. All one has to do is walk
through a few vet clinics and find the adult cats that have never been
vaccinated and are now dying of FELK. That would seem to be a very
easy way to disprove such a fringe lunatic theory.

"Phil P." wrote in message
12% incidence is not low! In the at risk segment of the feline population,
12% = *millions* of cats!

Maybe if I write short sentences you might understand.

15% are susceptible to FeLV
85% are not susceptible to FeLV

Therefore, there must be some kind of natural immunity.

Work on your comprehension skills.