Crazy and odd pet laws

On 11 Feb 2012 22:13:49 GMT, Bastette wrote:

Sorry, Fountain Inn is in South Carolina, not South Dakota.

Maybe there's more than one Fountain Inn?

Nope, not in the US. I only live 3 miles from it.;-)

And the carriage rides are great!

Christina Websell wrote:

I am not in favour of keeping any animal or bird in close proximity to a
predator of them, despite that people think "they get used to it. and then
they like it."
I would never keep a rat, bird, mouse, gerbil etc in a house where there was
a cat that could go near them.
I think to do so is cruel.
I might as well have a fox that I put next to my chickens.

One thing, though - while the chickens are domesticated, foxes aren't.
So you've got a wild animal that depends on hunting to survive,
tantalizingly close to their favorite food. Doesn't seem like that
would end well.

I think two domestic species can be taught to live together even if
one is a predator and the other is its prey. There are countless
pictures and videos on the web of animals who you'd never expect to
be safe together acting like buddies. Cats can definitely learn that
a certain animal is a friend and not food. A lot of it depends on how
the humans interact with the prey animal. If the cat sees their human
treating the pet rat like a family member, the cat will often do the
same.

--
Joyce

A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead.
-- Leo Rosten

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

I am not in favour of keeping any animal or bird in close proximity to a
predator of them, despite that people think "they get used to it. and
then
they like it."
I would never keep a rat, bird, mouse, gerbil etc in a house where there
was
a cat that could go near them.
I think to do so is cruel.
I might as well have a fox that I put next to my chickens.

One thing, though - while the chickens are domesticated, foxes aren't.
So you've got a wild animal that depends on hunting to survive,
tantalizingly close to their favorite food. Doesn't seem like that
would end well.

I think two domestic species can be taught to live together even if
one is a predator and the other is its prey. There are countless
pictures and videos on the web of animals who you'd never expect to
be safe together acting like buddies. Cats can definitely learn that
a certain animal is a friend and not food. A lot of it depends on how
the humans interact with the prey animal. If the cat sees their human
treating the pet rat like a family member, the cat will often do the
same.

--
Joyce

I think it can work in some circumstances, depending on the cat, the bird,
and the humans involved.

Joy

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

I am not in favour of keeping any animal or bird in close proximity to a
predator of them, despite that people think "they get used to it. and
then
they like it."
I would never keep a rat, bird, mouse, gerbil etc in a house where there
was
a cat that could go near them.
I think to do so is cruel.
I might as well have a fox that I put next to my chickens.

One thing, though - while the chickens are domesticated, foxes aren't.
So you've got a wild animal that depends on hunting to survive,
tantalizingly close to their favorite food. Doesn't seem like that
would end well.

It doesn't.

I think two domestic species can be taught to live together even if
one is a predator and the other is its prey. There are countless
pictures and videos on the web of animals who you'd never expect to
be safe together acting like buddies. Cats can definitely learn that
a certain animal is a friend and not food. A lot of it depends on how
the humans interact with the prey animal. If the cat sees their human
treating the pet rat like a family member, the cat will often do the
same.

Maybe. I am not in favour of keeping a prey animal in a cage inside a house
and have it's predator there to be able to stare at it. Call me picky if
you want but even if, as you say, they get used to it, f/kng imagine getting
used to it.
Put yourself in the situation. Oh, I'm really panicking now, there is a lion
in my house. I think it will kill me.
Oh, it hasn't done so yesterday, and there it is again. Try not to panic,
it didn't kill me last time and maybe it might not be there tomorrow.
And this is what it takes, IMO, to get a prey animal used to to their
predator, and I maintain my stance that it is cruel to have them in the same
house.

Tweed

"CatNipped" wrote in message
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LOL! Yep, that might work. Are any of your chickens cocks? Do they
"announce the morning"? We used to keep chickens when I was a child and
I
remember them crowing quite some while before the sun actually rose.
There
was no need for an alarm clock, we were up and ready for school on time
every day. If they're former city dwellers that may be quite annoying
to
them as well. ;


My last boy died while I was away, he was 9 years old and I told the
carers
not to panic if he popped his clogs.
I intend to get another trio of some sort of rare breed when the weather
improves and I am a bit better.
The most cockerels I ever had at any one time was 17 and I never had any
complaints. The more longstanding residents around here (when all the
plots
were large) were used to mooing, bleating, squealing and crowing from all
around ;-)

Yep, but the newcomers, being "city slickers" might not feel the same. Let
us know when you get new chicks and some pictures of them and where they
live would be nice (to picture the scenes you talk about).


Well, it might be too bad for them, if I got a crowing lad again, which I
will, as that is exactly what they said to me.
"It's too bad if you cannot get your car out. We are not your previous
neighbours."
I really don't understand it, but we are now hating each other. Sad.

"CatNipped" wrote in message
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On 2/11/2012 12:59 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
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I am actually a bit scared of pigs since my husband saw one rip the thigh
out of his friend.
I have no experience of them but if I wanted to keep them, I could.

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:55:45 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

I am actually a bit scared of pigs since my husband saw one rip the thigh
out of his friend.

We have more hogs in Iowa than most places, and the farmers are well
aware that if the hogs get a chance to eat you they will nearly always
take it. Almost is if they know their destiny.

Casady

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:55:45 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

I am actually a bit scared of pigs since my husband saw one rip the thigh
out of his friend.

We have more hogs in Iowa than most places, and the farmers are well
aware that if the hogs get a chance to eat you they will nearly always
take it. Almost is if they know their destiny.


I've kept goats, sheep and all kinds of poultry but I never fancied having
pigs because you cannot tell by their expression what they are about to do,
if you know what I mean, so you don't have a warning about whether they will
attack you or not. Those little piggy eyes give nothing away.
There's a fashion here for mini-pigs as pets, the piglets are very tiny,
cost loadsa bucks but do grow up bigger than the inexperienced new owners
expect although still around half size of normal. Having been reared in the
house with the family as piglets, they do eventually have to go outside as
they get too big and knock the furniture over ;-) They can apparently be
housetrained.
Having grown up in a household with a family, these mini-pigs (now not so
mini) would not dream of eating their human family and apparently are
charming even when they have to live in the garden instead of pattering
about with their tiny feet in the house.

Tweed

Christina Websell wrote:

I've kept goats, sheep and all kinds of poultry but I never fancied having
pigs because you cannot tell by their expression what they are about to do,
if you know what I mean, so you don't have a warning about whether they will
attack you or not. Those little piggy eyes give nothing away.
There's a fashion here for mini-pigs as pets, the piglets are very tiny,
cost loadsa bucks but do grow up bigger than the inexperienced new owners
expect although still around half size of normal. Having been reared in the
house with the family as piglets, they do eventually have to go outside as
they get too big and knock the furniture over ;-) They can apparently be
housetrained.
Having grown up in a household with a family, these mini-pigs (now not so
mini) would not dream of eating their human family and apparently are
charming even when they have to live in the garden instead of pattering
about with their tiny feet in the house.

Tweed

What many people do not realize is that pigs are among the most
intelligent of our four-footed brethren. (Probably because we don't
WANT to recognize the fact, but there's a reason cannibals refer to
human meat as "long pig".)

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

I've kept goats, sheep and all kinds of poultry but I never fancied
having pigs because you cannot tell by their expression what they are
about to do, if you know what I mean, so you don't have a warning about
whether they will attack you or not. Those little piggy eyes give
nothing away.
There's a fashion here for mini-pigs as pets, the piglets are very tiny,
cost loadsa bucks but do grow up bigger than the inexperienced new owners
expect although still around half size of normal. Having been reared in
the house with the family as piglets, they do eventually have to go
outside as they get too big and knock the furniture over ;-) They can
apparently be housetrained.
Having grown up in a household with a family, these mini-pigs (now not so
mini) would not dream of eating their human family and apparently are
charming even when they have to live in the garden instead of pattering
about with their tiny feet in the house.

Tweed

What many people do not realize is that pigs are among the most
intelligent of our four-footed brethren. (Probably because we don't WANT
to recognize the fact, but there's a reason cannibals refer to human meat
as "long pig".)

Not only that, a pig fetus bears an amazingly close resemblance to a human
fetus until the last couple of months.

My brother, who owned a few acres at the time, once bought three pigs to
raise for meat. He started out saying he wasn't going to name them, since
they were for food. However, they soon had names. I don't remember the
first one's name, or the reason for it. The second one had one black spot
on its back, so it became Spot. Here's how he told me about the third one's
name. "This one has two rings in his nose, so his name is Two-Ring - and
he's my friend." The last four words were spoken in the same tone many of
us use to talk about our cats.

I don't know whether or not any of them were eaten. He lived about a
thousand miles from me, and I didn't want to know.

Joy