OT Right not to life!!

"Lesley Madigan" wrote in message
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On May 1, 12:58 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
"They'll be sorry when I'm dead"?

A long time ago when I was the ugly fat teenage girl- some so called
friends used to tell me so and so wanted to dance with me then have a
game where they'd bring some guy forward who'd take one look at me
then run off screaming- I had minus zero confidence, a mother (who
although I feel guilty about saying it because I did love her or at
least wanted her to love me as much as she did my brothers although to
be realistic I would have had to grow a penis) who on a daily basis
kept that confidence level at minus zero
One night I actually picked up a bottle of aspirin from the kitchen,
went to the bathroom, opened the bottle looked at it and thought
"They'll be sorry when I'm dead"
At this point my rather more prosaic personality kicked in and
suddenly I screamed (mum yelled at me to shut up) "THEY WON'T BE SORRY
THEY'LL BE GLAD! WHY SHOULD I MAKE THEM GLAD? AM I SO DESPERATE FOR
THEIR APPROVAL THAT I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
WHO WILL BE HAPPY IF I AM DEAD?! SOD THEM I AM GOING TO LIVE AND ANNOY
THE HELL OUT OF THEM FOR JUST BEING AROUND?!"

And that's been my motto ever since-I ain;t gonna kill myself just
because someone doesn't like me, because like when I had this thing at
work recently the manager involved would have loved to have the drama
of me topping myself so she could look good and add "crisis
management" to her CV- why should I do what she wants and give her the
pleasure?

Still around and still annoying people ain;t gonna top myself just
cos someone does not like ,me/approve of me or whatever- no one has
ever had that power over me and as I get older I get harder- guess
what- the fat ugly teenage girl who didn't bow down is now quite
starting to like herself.....And I have just today booked in for the
deep purple lowlights I have always ....I am goin' purple next Friday!


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you go, girl. i am so proud of you.

"dgk" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 May 2011 08:41:11 -0400, kraut / larry stark
wrote:



You know when someone reaches that certain point in their life where
their quality of life just is not what it should be we should have the
right to end it if that is what we want without anyone telling us what
we should do!!! Right now it takes more then I have to go day after
day and for what?!?!? I messed up the first time but not again!!! Life
is not worth it after a certain point!!!

Depends no? If we're talking about depression, that is a disease that
needs to be treated, and it kills just as surely as cancer and heart
disease.

i had depression once and i can tell you it was the worst thing i ever had -
and i've had cancer.

On May 2, 1:11*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

you go, girl. i am so proud of you.

Yeah its funny over the last year or so and with the help of 2 amazing
counsellors from work (Roberta and Patrick but especially Roberta) I
have at the age of 53 started to like myself a lot more than I
did..for example someone asked me where I had got my skirt because
they really liked it. In the past I'd have said "This old thing? from
so and so it was in a sale" now I am saying "Thank you I liked the
colour" then following it on with where I got it

Believe me the first time I said that I nearly needed oxygen I am not
yet still quite used to accepting compliments in the spirit they are
offered even through I've spent a lot of time in my life always
handing compliments out

And is it okay to say today I stamped on a mans foot with extreme
malice aforethought?!

He was trying to steal my purse......

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

In article ,
wrote:

There are probably many reasons why people commit suicide, but if someone
is mentally ill, you really have no idea how much pain they might be in.

Awesome post. I've known some people who struggled for years with
intractable emotional pain. They were smart people who availed
themselves of treatment options, and the treatment options didn't work,
and eventually they chose to commit suicide.

I've euthanized my cats who were in intractable pain and had terminal
conditions. If a person is in intractable pain, I don't judge their
choice to die.

I do certainly feel very sad on behalf of the people who love them.
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excellence." -- Nicole Hollander, Sylvia

"Lesley Madigan" wrote in message
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On May 2, 1:11 pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

you go, girl. i am so proud of you.

Yeah its funny over the last year or so and with the help of 2 amazing
counsellors from work (Roberta and Patrick but especially Roberta) I
have at the age of 53 started to like myself a lot more than I
did..for example someone asked me where I had got my skirt because
they really liked it. In the past I'd have said "This old thing? from
so and so it was in a sale" now I am saying "Thank you I liked the
colour" then following it on with where I got it

Believe me the first time I said that I nearly needed oxygen I am not
yet still quite used to accepting compliments in the spirit they are
offered even through I've spent a lot of time in my life always
handing compliments out

And is it okay to say today I stamped on a mans foot with extreme
malice aforethought?!

He was trying to steal my purse......

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

***

You go, girl!

Joy

On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:18:54 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 May 2011 08:41:11 -0400, kraut / larry stark
wrote:



You know when someone reaches that certain point in their life where
their quality of life just is not what it should be we should have the
right to end it if that is what we want without anyone telling us what
we should do!!! Right now it takes more then I have to go day after
day and for what?!?!? I messed up the first time but not again!!! Life
is not worth it after a certain point!!!

Depends no? If we're talking about depression, that is a disease that
needs to be treated, and it kills just as surely as cancer and heart
disease.

i had depression once and i can tell you it was the worst thing i ever had -
and i've had cancer.


That's what I've heard, and it is a disease like any other one.
Nothing to be ashamed of just like there is no shame in having cancer.

jmcquown wrote:


I apologize if I offended you but I still think taking ones own life
doesn't take into account the feelings of the ones left behind. And in
that regard I do think it's selfish.

Jill

I suspect that those of us who have never experienced "clinical
depression" cannot fully understand its nature. After a friend's death
(heart attack, not suicide) I got some glimpse into what he must have
been experiencing. He had once mentioned (more or less casually) that
he was looking for a depression support group, but always seemed
perfectly fine when I saw him. After his death, I had some discussion
with one of the relatives who had come to California to see to funeral
arrangements. That's when I discovered he'd been living for nearly a
year with no hot water, and had neglected other basic home-repairs also!
It was not a money problem - he had a decent job and adequate income
to install a new heater, and hire repair people - it's just that with
his depression, EVERYTHING just seemed too much effort. (It was easier
to ignore the need than to pick up a phone and call a plumber.)