no more dry cat food?

and I remember my mom telling me how they fed my grandfather braces of
hunting dogs, and while it had meat it also had a substantial amount of
bread, because nothing was wasted, and calories were calories... I did what
you did just before reading this post, Lee
Granby wrote in message
...
I have passed the age of 60 and remember before there was "Cat or Dog
food"
for the average person. People who are so sure they are right and
everyone
else is wrong scare me. I don't need this.
*PLUNK*
wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 3:36 pm, "Matthew" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 2:36 pm, "Joy" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 12:28 pm, "Granby" wrote:

I asked my vet about this and he didn't have a clue where this info
came
from. He likes a combination of wet/dry

Unfortunately, your vet is like many others that have been brainwashed
by the pet food companies over the years and for whatever reason have
not bothered to investigate newer research on feline nutrition.

***

I think this is rather harsh. Considering the fact that canned food is
quite a bit more expensive than dry food, it is equally possible that
your
boss and many others have been brainwahsed by the pet food companies
so
they
can sell more of the expensive wet food.

Joy

No, it's not harsh. It's the truth. I can assure you that the vet I
work for has the cat's best interests at heart and does not let
potential profit affect his decisions on how he treats his patients.
It is ALL about the health and welfare of the cats and he has been
known to bend over backwards to help felines who have been failed by
other vets. My boss despises pet food reps ( he often gripes about how
they should not be allowed in vet schools) and just ran the Iams rep
out of the office the other day :-) He doesn't sell that much food (he
only carries a small inventory due to space) and more often than not
sends his clients to local, smaller stores that carry a good variety
of the high-quality canned and raw diets.

Actually IMO it is

I can see you are very passionate about this so I am not going to get a
debate going or get any feelings hurt . But remember you are dealing
with
hundreds of cat lovers here scattered across the globe. Last time I
looked
over 18 countries. There are people that have diabetics cats, blind
cats,
epileptic cats, cats with hyperthyroidism, FiV positive cats, rescue
people,
vet techs and many more list of health issues and type of cat slaves.
99.99% of us trust our vets here. Yes there is always something to learn
but will I take the advice of a vet or no offense a newbie who I have no
idea who they are or their back ground The answer is NOT A CHANCE.

First of all, I am hardly a "newbie." You need simply to check my
posting history to see I've been around various newsgroups since at
least 2005. I have also posted here before, but I mostly just lurk.
Second, regardless of where someone lives or what conditions their
cats might have, it does not in any way shape or form change anything
about the physiology of a feline and what they truly require. Can you
honestly say a bowl of dry crumbs is an appropriate diet for ANY
living creature??? Have you seen the movie Soylent Green? If we are
unable to feed a CARNIVORE what it would eat naturally (birds and
mice, etc) then doesn't common sense dictate we should try to feed it
something as close to that as possible? This means a MEAT, moisture
rich diet, whether it is canned or raw. Grain filled kibble does not
fall into this equation and is an extremely poor, potentially harmful
substitute.


I have learned something over the years for everything that says it is
good
there just as much that says it is bad. I have had cats for many ,many
decades. Quite a few never would eat wet food and they lived long happy
healthy lives.

This is not a cogent argument. There are also plenty of people that
smoke two packs and drink a six pack every day of their lives and live
to be 90. It doesn't mean their health is great. They may have lived
to be 100 without the booze and cigs. I don't know about you, but I
feel that I have an obligation to do what is best and feed what is
most species appropriate for my cats.

Dry food and wet food so does a raw diet lead to Diabetes
when it is not properly monitored free feeding, treats and stupid humans
are
the main problems.

This is not correct. A correlation between a dry food diet and
diabetes has been shown but NO such correlation has been shown for
canned or raw food and diabetes. If you have a cite that says
otherwise please share it but I am pretty sure one does not exist.

Raw diets are more complicated if you don't know what you are doing. If
not
enough protein and taurine than you are in trouble

There are plenty of websites that have nutritionally complete recipes
for raw diets. http://www.catnutrition.org is one. There are also
commercially prepared raw diets that are very good and which I use
myself.


I currently have a diabetic cat, and epileptic cat and a cat with
hyperthyroidism. Their diet is a mix of dry and wet. Rumble diabetes is
under control insulin free for a few years now. Phantoms is in great
health
even with Hyperthyroidism he still has his appetite. Ka'shay, Dumplin'
and
Limo refuse to eat wet food and have no interest in human food or the
raw
diet. Their diet is regulate by my vet all my cats are in great health
according to their work ups. I use Iams, fancy feast, Purina and all the
others your vet doesn't like. I recently lost my Spirit due to
complications when he got poisoned by wet food last year during the pet
food
recall. So who Do I believe? No offense I think I will trust my vet

And you should know that there have also been recalls on dry food
which have everything to do with the grains in them and mycotoxins.
What you should also realize is that none of the grain free canned
foods (Wellness, Innova Evo, Nature's Variety) were at risk and none
were recalled. I'm surprised you would have any of your cats on dry
food considering that you were able to bring your diabetic cat into
remission by feeding him a low carb canned diet. If you are indeed
feeding him any sort of dry food be aware that you are putting him at
risk for coming out of remission. Don't think that because it hasn't
happened yet that it won't.


Some Vets are brainwashed is more the proper words

Many are. I have access to one of the most well known veterinary
groups called VIN. I will tell you that you would be shocked if you
read the message boards and found out just how ignorant most vets are
about feline nutrition, not to mention treating diabetes and kidney
failure. Fortunately, most of the consultants that help there are
board certified in many areas and stay ahead of the curve with regards
to feline nutrition. They are overwhelmingly recommending canned food
and the elimination of dry diets for cats. I posted two links in a
previous message. One is a feline nutrition website written and
maintained by a veterinarian. The other is a book written by the
veterinarian who developed the canned diabetic prescription diet for
Purina and maintains the http://www.yourdiabeticcat.com website. You
really should check them out. I think you would learn a lot.

On Apr 8, 6:20*pm, "Jo Firey" wrote:

Get over yourself, OK?

Maybe you should consider taking your own advice. :-)

This is a cat anecdote group. *Got any cute stories?

Not right now. My cat just died (was euthanized at home) a few days
ago after a long and horrible illness (acute necrotizing
pancrreatitis) and I'm not really feeling "cute" right now. This is a
disease that is sometimes brought on by poor nutrition-i.e. dry food
and high carbohydrates which can cause inflammatory boewel disease
which can cause liver issues and pancreatitis,( which is why this
discussion is very important to me.) That was not the case for my cat.
He had some genetic abnormalities that we weren't aware of until after
the necropsy was done. Maybe someday later I'll have something cute to
share...

I don't come here to be ranted at by someone who it would appear has
decided what it best for everyone all the time and insists that anyone who
might not agree wholeheartly is not only wrong but bad.

Please quote where I said anything of the kind. I did not and don't
appreciate you lying about what I've posted. I've posted in a
discussion about dry food because I felt it was important to make
people aware of the latest information. I have not "ranted" at you
(although I see you did so to me in this most recent response) and
have spent a lot of time offering information that I have backed up
with cites. I also pointed out the fact that someone was just not
willing to learn anything new. I find it sad that some people would
rather be stuck in their old ways than, at the very least, be open to
or look at new information. The fact that you may disagree or whatever
is certainly your right, but at the same time really not my problem
and I don't see any justification for your ruffled feathers.

Lee, my grandmother would grind corn oats, dry peas and such end of garden
stuff. She would grind this up mix with water. Smooth in a thin layer and
dry in the sun. In the winter when food was scarce, she would feed to the
cats as dry. I don't mind getting new information, I just don't like
someone that works for a vet saying they and their boss are right. Showing
site that are supposed to prove their point doesn't cut it either.
Different strokes and all that. I resemble the "old dog" remark so can't
argue that point. If this person only knew how much I had learned this past
year, Ah well, enough of that.
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
and I remember my mom telling me how they fed my grandfather braces of
hunting dogs, and while it had meat it also had a substantial amount of
bread, because nothing was wasted, and calories were calories... I did
what
you did just before reading this post, Lee
Granby wrote in message
...
I have passed the age of 60 and remember before there was "Cat or Dog
food"
for the average person. People who are so sure they are right and
everyone
else is wrong scare me. I don't need this.
*PLUNK*
wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 3:36 pm, "Matthew" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 2:36 pm, "Joy" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 12:28 pm, "Granby" wrote:

I asked my vet about this and he didn't have a clue where this info
came
from. He likes a combination of wet/dry

Unfortunately, your vet is like many others that have been
brainwashed
by the pet food companies over the years and for whatever reason have
not bothered to investigate newer research on feline nutrition.

***

I think this is rather harsh. Considering the fact that canned food
is
quite a bit more expensive than dry food, it is equally possible that
your
boss and many others have been brainwahsed by the pet food companies
so
they
can sell more of the expensive wet food.

Joy

No, it's not harsh. It's the truth. I can assure you that the vet I
work for has the cat's best interests at heart and does not let
potential profit affect his decisions on how he treats his patients.
It is ALL about the health and welfare of the cats and he has been
known to bend over backwards to help felines who have been failed by
other vets. My boss despises pet food reps ( he often gripes about how
they should not be allowed in vet schools) and just ran the Iams rep
out of the office the other day :-) He doesn't sell that much food (he
only carries a small inventory due to space) and more often than not
sends his clients to local, smaller stores that carry a good variety
of the high-quality canned and raw diets.

Actually IMO it is

I can see you are very passionate about this so I am not going to get a
debate going or get any feelings hurt . But remember you are dealing
with
hundreds of cat lovers here scattered across the globe. Last time I
looked
over 18 countries. There are people that have diabetics cats, blind
cats,
epileptic cats, cats with hyperthyroidism, FiV positive cats, rescue
people,
vet techs and many more list of health issues and type of cat slaves.
99.99% of us trust our vets here. Yes there is always something to
learn
but will I take the advice of a vet or no offense a newbie who I have
no
idea who they are or their back ground The answer is NOT A CHANCE.

First of all, I am hardly a "newbie." You need simply to check my
posting history to see I've been around various newsgroups since at
least 2005. I have also posted here before, but I mostly just lurk.
Second, regardless of where someone lives or what conditions their
cats might have, it does not in any way shape or form change anything
about the physiology of a feline and what they truly require. Can you
honestly say a bowl of dry crumbs is an appropriate diet for ANY
living creature??? Have you seen the movie Soylent Green? If we are
unable to feed a CARNIVORE what it would eat naturally (birds and
mice, etc) then doesn't common sense dictate we should try to feed it
something as close to that as possible? This means a MEAT, moisture
rich diet, whether it is canned or raw. Grain filled kibble does not
fall into this equation and is an extremely poor, potentially harmful
substitute.


I have learned something over the years for everything that says it is
good
there just as much that says it is bad. I have had cats for many ,many
decades. Quite a few never would eat wet food and they lived long happy
healthy lives.

This is not a cogent argument. There are also plenty of people that
smoke two packs and drink a six pack every day of their lives and live
to be 90. It doesn't mean their health is great. They may have lived
to be 100 without the booze and cigs. I don't know about you, but I
feel that I have an obligation to do what is best and feed what is
most species appropriate for my cats.

Dry food and wet food so does a raw diet lead to Diabetes
when it is not properly monitored free feeding, treats and stupid
humans
are
the main problems.

This is not correct. A correlation between a dry food diet and
diabetes has been shown but NO such correlation has been shown for
canned or raw food and diabetes. If you have a cite that says
otherwise please share it but I am pretty sure one does not exist.

Raw diets are more complicated if you don't know what you are doing. If
not
enough protein and taurine than you are in trouble

There are plenty of websites that have nutritionally complete recipes
for raw diets. http://www.catnutrition.org is one. There are also
commercially prepared raw diets that are very good and which I use
myself.


I currently have a diabetic cat, and epileptic cat and a cat with
hyperthyroidism. Their diet is a mix of dry and wet. Rumble diabetes is
under control insulin free for a few years now. Phantoms is in great
health
even with Hyperthyroidism he still has his appetite. Ka'shay, Dumplin'
and
Limo refuse to eat wet food and have no interest in human food or the
raw
diet. Their diet is regulate by my vet all my cats are in great health
according to their work ups. I use Iams, fancy feast, Purina and all
the
others your vet doesn't like. I recently lost my Spirit due to
complications when he got poisoned by wet food last year during the pet
food
recall. So who Do I believe? No offense I think I will trust my vet

And you should know that there have also been recalls on dry food
which have everything to do with the grains in them and mycotoxins.
What you should also realize is that none of the grain free canned
foods (Wellness, Innova Evo, Nature's Variety) were at risk and none
were recalled. I'm surprised you would have any of your cats on dry
food considering that you were able to bring your diabetic cat into
remission by feeding him a low carb canned diet. If you are indeed
feeding him any sort of dry food be aware that you are putting him at
risk for coming out of remission. Don't think that because it hasn't
happened yet that it won't.


Some Vets are brainwashed is more the proper words

Many are. I have access to one of the most well known veterinary
groups called VIN. I will tell you that you would be shocked if you
read the message boards and found out just how ignorant most vets are
about feline nutrition, not to mention treating diabetes and kidney
failure. Fortunately, most of the consultants that help there are
board certified in many areas and stay ahead of the curve with regards
to feline nutrition. They are overwhelmingly recommending canned food
and the elimination of dry diets for cats. I posted two links in a
previous message. One is a feline nutrition website written and
maintained by a veterinarian. The other is a book written by the
veterinarian who developed the canned diabetic prescription diet for
Purina and maintains the http://www.yourdiabeticcat.com website. You
really should check them out. I think you would learn a lot.

and since my vet gives different advice, it doesn't matter how many times
she has saved one of my cats from death, she is wrong, I think NOT, and if
we were using words to describe you dog is definitely NOT what I would
choose, Lee
Granby wrote in message
...
Lee, my grandmother would grind corn oats, dry peas and such end of garden
stuff. She would grind this up mix with water. Smooth in a thin layer
and
dry in the sun. In the winter when food was scarce, she would feed to the
cats as dry. I don't mind getting new information, I just don't like
someone that works for a vet saying they and their boss are right.
Showing
site that are supposed to prove their point doesn't cut it either.
Different strokes and all that. I resemble the "old dog" remark so can't
argue that point. If this person only knew how much I had learned this
past
year, Ah well, enough of that.
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
and I remember my mom telling me how they fed my grandfather braces of
hunting dogs, and while it had meat it also had a substantial amount of
bread, because nothing was wasted, and calories were calories... I did
what
you did just before reading this post, Lee
Granby wrote in message
...
I have passed the age of 60 and remember before there was "Cat or Dog
food"
for the average person. People who are so sure they are right and
everyone
else is wrong scare me. I don't need this.
*PLUNK*
wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 3:36 pm, "Matthew" wrote:
wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 2:36 pm, "Joy" wrote:





wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 12:28 pm, "Granby" wrote:

I asked my vet about this and he didn't have a clue where this
info
came
from. He likes a combination of wet/dry

Unfortunately, your vet is like many others that have been
brainwashed
by the pet food companies over the years and for whatever reason
have
not bothered to investigate newer research on feline nutrition.

***

I think this is rather harsh. Considering the fact that canned food
is
quite a bit more expensive than dry food, it is equally possible
that
your
boss and many others have been brainwahsed by the pet food
companies
so
they
can sell more of the expensive wet food.

Joy

No, it's not harsh. It's the truth. I can assure you that the vet I
work for has the cat's best interests at heart and does not let
potential profit affect his decisions on how he treats his patients.
It is ALL about the health and welfare of the cats and he has been
known to bend over backwards to help felines who have been failed by
other vets. My boss despises pet food reps ( he often gripes about
how
they should not be allowed in vet schools) and just ran the Iams rep
out of the office the other day :-) He doesn't sell that much food
(he
only carries a small inventory due to space) and more often than not
sends his clients to local, smaller stores that carry a good variety
of the high-quality canned and raw diets.

Actually IMO it is

I can see you are very passionate about this so I am not going to get
a
debate going or get any feelings hurt . But remember you are dealing
with
hundreds of cat lovers here scattered across the globe. Last time I
looked
over 18 countries. There are people that have diabetics cats, blind
cats,
epileptic cats, cats with hyperthyroidism, FiV positive cats, rescue
people,
vet techs and many more list of health issues and type of cat slaves.
99.99% of us trust our vets here. Yes there is always something to
learn
but will I take the advice of a vet or no offense a newbie who I have
no
idea who they are or their back ground The answer is NOT A CHANCE.

First of all, I am hardly a "newbie." You need simply to check my
posting history to see I've been around various newsgroups since at
least 2005. I have also posted here before, but I mostly just lurk.
Second, regardless of where someone lives or what conditions their
cats might have, it does not in any way shape or form change anything
about the physiology of a feline and what they truly require. Can you
honestly say a bowl of dry crumbs is an appropriate diet for ANY
living creature??? Have you seen the movie Soylent Green? If we are
unable to feed a CARNIVORE what it would eat naturally (birds and
mice, etc) then doesn't common sense dictate we should try to feed it
something as close to that as possible? This means a MEAT, moisture
rich diet, whether it is canned or raw. Grain filled kibble does not
fall into this equation and is an extremely poor, potentially harmful
substitute.


I have learned something over the years for everything that says it
is
good
there just as much that says it is bad. I have had cats for many
,many
decades. Quite a few never would eat wet food and they lived long
happy
healthy lives.

This is not a cogent argument. There are also plenty of people that
smoke two packs and drink a six pack every day of their lives and live
to be 90. It doesn't mean their health is great. They may have lived
to be 100 without the booze and cigs. I don't know about you, but I
feel that I have an obligation to do what is best and feed what is
most species appropriate for my cats.

Dry food and wet food so does a raw diet lead to Diabetes
when it is not properly monitored free feeding, treats and stupid
humans
are
the main problems.

This is not correct. A correlation between a dry food diet and
diabetes has been shown but NO such correlation has been shown for
canned or raw food and diabetes. If you have a cite that says
otherwise please share it but I am pretty sure one does not exist.

Raw diets are more complicated if you don't know what you are doing.
If
not
enough protein and taurine than you are in trouble

There are plenty of websites that have nutritionally complete recipes
for raw diets. http://www.catnutrition.org is one. There are also
commercially prepared raw diets that are very good and which I use
myself.


I currently have a diabetic cat, and epileptic cat and a cat with
hyperthyroidism. Their diet is a mix of dry and wet. Rumble diabetes
is
under control insulin free for a few years now. Phantoms is in great
health
even with Hyperthyroidism he still has his appetite. Ka'shay,
Dumplin'
and
Limo refuse to eat wet food and have no interest in human food or the
raw
diet. Their diet is regulate by my vet all my cats are in great
health
according to their work ups. I use Iams, fancy feast, Purina and all
the
others your vet doesn't like. I recently lost my Spirit due to
complications when he got poisoned by wet food last year during the
pet
food
recall. So who Do I believe? No offense I think I will trust my vet

And you should know that there have also been recalls on dry food
which have everything to do with the grains in them and mycotoxins.
What you should also realize is that none of the grain free canned
foods (Wellness, Innova Evo, Nature's Variety) were at risk and none
were recalled. I'm surprised you would have any of your cats on dry
food considering that you were able to bring your diabetic cat into
remission by feeding him a low carb canned diet. If you are indeed
feeding him any sort of dry food be aware that you are putting him at
risk for coming out of remission. Don't think that because it hasn't
happened yet that it won't.


Some Vets are brainwashed is more the proper words

Many are. I have access to one of the most well known veterinary
groups called VIN. I will tell you that you would be shocked if you
read the message boards and found out just how ignorant most vets are
about feline nutrition, not to mention treating diabetes and kidney
failure. Fortunately, most of the consultants that help there are
board certified in many areas and stay ahead of the curve with regards
to feline nutrition. They are overwhelmingly recommending canned food
and the elimination of dry diets for cats. I posted two links in a
previous message. One is a feline nutrition website written and
maintained by a veterinarian. The other is a book written by the
veterinarian who developed the canned diabetic prescription diet for
Purina and maintains the http://www.yourdiabeticcat.com website. You
really should check them out. I think you would learn a lot.

wrote:
I asked my vet about this and he didn't have a clue where this info
came from. *He likes a combination of wet/dry
Unfortunately, your vet is like many others that have been brainwashed
by the pet food companies over the years and for whatever reason have
not bothered to investigate newer research on feline nutrition.

The standard text on cat medicine used in the UK for many years (probably
still is) is G.T. Wilkinson (ed), Diseases of the Cat and their Management.
The chapter on nutrition was written by Patricia Brown, nutritional
medicine specialist at the Royal Free Hospital in London (i.e. her main
specialty was people). Pretty obviously nothing to do with the petfood
industry, and she doesn't make any definite recommendation either way.
(Instead, she evaluates specific ingredients which might be in either wet
or dry foods - they are not always as different in composition as you're
implying).

Everyone with a cat should read this link:
[spam site deleted[
and buy this book:
[spammed book ad deleted]

I'd rather take Brown's word for it than a self-promoting googlegroup
spammer's, thanks.

==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === http://www.campin.me.uk ====
Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts

Jo Firey wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 5:18 pm, "Granby" wrote:
I have passed the age of 60 and remember before there was "Cat or Dog
food"
for the average person. People who are so sure they are right and
everyone
else is wrong scare me. I don't need this.
*PLUNK

I'm sorry you feel that way. I have made a concerted effort to offer
not just my opinion, but cites to back up what I am saying. I have
always been of the mindset that you can teach an old dog new tricks,
but it seems you are not interested in learning anything new and it's
really too bad. I should also point out that I am not alone here and
there are several that are saying the same thing. Will you be
"plunk"ing them as well?
*********

Get over yourself, OK?

This is a cat anecdote group. Got any cute stories?

I don't come here to be ranted at by someone who it would appear has
decided what it best for everyone all the time and insists that
anyone who might not agree wholeheartly is not only wrong but bad.

Jo

More to the point, I think (because we certainly do stray from anecdotes) is
we don't know this poster. Newbies to the group are, of course, welcome.
But no one takes kindly to a stranger who pops up out of the blue and
declares everyone who feeds dry food (and their vets, if they condone it) is
wrong, even if they agree with them. (Particularly not one who touts buying
a book and provides a link for... SPAM? I didn't click it. I don't click
on links posted by people I don't know.)

I KNOW cats are carnivores. But Persia is on a prescription diet. If she
won't eat the canned variety and her vet (two vets, actually) says the dry
is okay, at least for now, who am I to argue? She simply won't eat the wet
stuff. I'd rather her eat the dry which won't cause a recurrence of the
crystalline oxolate formations in her bladder than have her go through
another surgery. As for a raw diet, I know there are people on RPCA who do
that. I simply can't afford to.

Jill

Victor Martinez wrote:
wrote:
First of all, I am hardly a "newbie." You need simply to check my
posting history to see I've been around various newsgroups since at
least 2005. I have also posted here before, but I mostly just lurk.

That makes you a newbie...

Victor, who's been posting since at least 1995.

1997 for me Besides, who wants to wade their way through google crap to
determine someone's posting history?

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
1997 for me Besides, who wants to wade their way through google crap
to determine someone's posting history?

I know it was 1995 because that is the year I started grad school. As
an undergrad I spent my online time on BitNet.

--
Victor M. Martinez
Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
Send your spam he
Email me he

Victor Martinez wrote in
:

jmcquown wrote:
1997 for me Besides, who wants to wade their way through google
crap to determine someone's posting history?

I know it was 1995 because that is the year I started grad school.
As an undergrad I spent my online time on BitNet.


1987 for usenet and rec.pets.cat soon after that. As I said before I was
not a big proponent of a split but I guess I have gotten over it. I still
lurk on a few of the off-shoots of rpc but only post on very rare occasion
on h&b and slightly less rarely here otherwise my activity is limited to
technical groups related to my work.

On Apr 8, 4:45 pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message

...



wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 12:28 pm, "Granby" wrote:
I asked my vet about this and he didn't have a clue where this info came
from. He likes a combination of wet/dry

Unfortunately, your vet is like many others that have been brainwashed
by the pet food companies over the years and for whatever reason have
not bothered to investigate newer research on feline nutrition.

***

I think this is rather harsh. Considering the fact that canned food is
quite a bit more expensive than dry food, it is equally possible that your
boss and many others have been brainwahsed by the pet food companies so
they can sell more of the expensive wet food.

What would cats eat "in the wild?" Birds, mice, rats, that sort of thing,
and they are "wet."
I would say more like people are brainwashed by the pet food companies into
giving their cats "dry" TBH.
We have all read how bad dry is for boys. It can cause blocked urethers.
Dry has it's place but it can be an easy option. "Everything your cat needs
IS in this food"
Probably it is, which is not to say that they will live a long life on it.

Boyfriend was probably reared in his former life on dry. He is on wet with
a sprinkle of dry. He would eat exclusively dry if given the chance, he is
not given that choice.

KFC has never seen dry in her life. She eats wet, having caught her own
food all her life she only wants what Boyfie catches for her now or what wet
I give her
Maybe that is why she's 22.

Tweed

I tried raw chicken and beef. Bonnie, being from her stray time I
guess, gobbled it up. She also went after a chicken bone I had on my
plate. Since Tuesday of this week, she has gotten raw food + dry.
Bobby will not touch raw food and just stares at me when served. He
just won't have any parts of that. He has been with me since 8 weeks
old and has always been on a diet of dry and canned.

Bonnie was on the streets for no one knows how long. She probably ate
garbage, birds, mice and whatever she could find. I've only had her a
month, so it's hard to tell. She did dig into the raw food like a
'carnivore' and stopped throwing up. No vomiting since I offered her
raw food.

I only wonder if she is getting enough fiber? That is the original
problem that she had with blocked anal ducts. Not enough fiber can
cause that. I don't know if that was the 100% reason, but it is
unusual for a cat to get blocked anal ducts.

Anyways, I am now offering some raw tidbits at nighttime for her and
feeding Chicken Soup for the Cat Lovers Soul free feeding all day +
night. That is one dry food she doesn't vomit.

The bad ones were Science Diet (dry) and Royal Canin Special 33 (for
Persians).