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Royal Canin vs. Hill's k/d?
"Christina Websell" wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? Actually, USA and Canada. Though some US cities have now made it illegal. -- Adrian |
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Royal Canin vs. Hill's k/d?
Christina Websell wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? The same reason any attempt to provide human "Medicare for All" goes down to defeat whenever it's proposed: $$$$$$! (Greed outweighs caring concern for the patients.) |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? Actually, USA and Canada. Though some US cities have now made it illegal. -- Adrian I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. And you need those nails to do toilet duties. Cats are born with with claws on all four feet,. If you don;t like it, don;t get one. |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? The same reason any attempt to provide human "Medicare for All" goes down to defeat whenever it's proposed: $$$$$$! (Greed outweighs caring concern for the patients.) If I went to my vet tomorrow and asked him to declaw Boyfriend I think he would almost kill me for even asking. I suspect I would be struck off his list for even suggesting it. Tweed |
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Royal Canin vs. Hill's k/d?
"Christina Websell" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? Actually, USA and Canada. Though some US cities have now made it illegal. -- Adrian I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. And you need those nails to do toilet duties. Cats are born with with claws on all four feet,. If you don;t like it, don;t get one. It's worse than having your fingernails pulled out, it's equivalent to have the ends of your fingers chopped off at the last knuckle. :-( -- Adrian |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: There is obviously a difference between USA & UK vets. a big difference. Let's not mention declawing, our vets would be struck off if they did that. I stopped using a vet in Pasadena CA, when I realized the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing! (He was a good, caring vet, otherwise, and I suppose laser surgery is less traumatic than the traditional kind, but still....) When I adopted Cendrillon, I knew she had been declawed, which usually means spayed or neutered at the same time. She'd been with me for about a week when she came in heat! (One reason she found her forever home with me - spaying isn't cheap, so after paying out that kind of money, merely fostering her just wasn't an option.) I might be wrong but I think America is the only place in the world where declawing is legal. It should stop. Immediately. It's a disgusting practice. Why do your vets offer it? The same reason any attempt to provide human "Medicare for All" goes down to defeat whenever it's proposed: $$$$$$! (Greed outweighs caring concern for the patients.) If I went to my vet tomorrow and asked him to declaw Boyfriend I think he would almost kill me for even asking. I suspect I would be struck off his list for even suggesting it. Tweed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately (as you know), declawing is legal in most of the U.S. Fortunately, more and more people are becoming aware of what a cruel practice it is. Years ago (back in the 1960s), when I got my first cat, I actually considered having my cat declawed. That's because I did not realize that it involves amputation--and, of course, we did not have the Internet then. I had to have part of the roots of my own big toes removed, and I thought it would be similar. My vet told me that it would be a slower and more painful healing process because my cat was then several months old and was heavier than most cats that were declawed. So, I decided against it, but I still did not know that it involved amputation. Ironically, I found that it was very easy to train my cat to use a scratching post (the primary reason most people use to justify declawing--others say it is to prevent the cat from scratching people). As years went by, I learned more about the procedure and was absolutely horrified that I had even considered it. With the Internet, it is now very easy to point people to information about this cruel procedure, and I have succeeded in convincing several people not to use it. As Adrian said, there are now a few cities that have made it illegal, and I hope the number will grow. There are also growing numbers of vets who will not declaw, but I am convinced that most vets who do perform it do so for $$$$$. MaryL |
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Royal Canin vs. Hill's k/d?
Christina Websell wrote: I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. If it were ONLY fingernails, it might not be so bad. (Think first joints of all your fingers!) |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
Christina Websell wrote: I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. If it were ONLY fingernails, it might not be so bad. (Think first joints of all your fingers!) It would still be inhumane even if it were only the claws, because *cats have claws for a reason*! Claws are their main defense, and they also allow a cat to climb up trees or other things to get away from danger quickly. I don't know why people don't mention that when they talk about declawing. I think that leaving them defenseless is the worst part of it. -- Joyce Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto a freeway. |
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"Bastette" wrote in message ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Christina Websell wrote: I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. If it were ONLY fingernails, it might not be so bad. (Think first joints of all your fingers!) It would still be inhumane even if it were only the claws, because *cats have claws for a reason*! Claws are their main defense, and they also allow a cat to climb up trees or other things to get away from danger quickly. I don't know why people don't mention that when they talk about declawing. I think that leaving them defenseless is the worst part of it. -- Joyce Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto a freeway. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Without claws, a high percentage of cats also develop arthritis and also abnormalities. They cannot walk and exercise normally without their claws. The change in their walking and posture (even stretching, as when scratching) may not be obvious to us, but it will take its toll over the years. MaryL |
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Royal Canin vs. Hill's k/d?
"Bastette" wrote in message ... "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: Christina Websell wrote: I didn't know that declawing was still legal in Canada. It should be illegal everywhere in a humane world. Imagine having your fingerails plucked out just in case you decided to damage the furniture. If it were ONLY fingernails, it might not be so bad. (Think first joints of all your fingers!) It would still be inhumane even if it were only the claws, because *cats have claws for a reason*! Claws are their main defense, and they also allow a cat to climb up trees or other things to get away from danger quickly. I don't know why people don't mention that when they talk about declawing. I think that leaving them defenseless is the worst part of it. -- Do you have any idea why it is still legal in North America & Canada? Is your furniture more precious than ours? Or do you think your vets like the money from doing it? My vet would be struck off if he did it. Not that he ever would. I did ask him about his opinion about this once. I wouldn't like to share what he said. He has only done it once, in his whole career and that was when a cat had such a serious nailbed infection that nothing worked and that was the last resort. He said he hopes he never has to do it again because it causes problems with digging for toilet duties and they can also become biters. I cannot imagine why anyone would want to have this done. If you don't want your cat to have claws, don't get one. Both my cats needed their claws. KFC to live outside for many years and catch mousies. Boyfie does use his for this but also to claw my kitchen rug for emphasis when I've told him for the second time it's not time for his food or when I've refused what he wants exactly when he wants it.. Tweed |
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