If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
URGENT TO GINGER-LYN
On Apr 16, 5:43*pm, outsider wrote:
wrote in news:13dc7393-eb8b-41e1-a9be- : On Apr 16, 4:47*pm, "CatNipped" wrote: JFTR *I didn't call Ginger-lyn's vet unethical Well, yes you did and you did so without having any knowledge of the actual conversation: "More to the point, Ginger-lyn is in such *dire* financial straits now that I think the vet not giving her the same information my vet gave me is really unethical." Over time you will notice that Lori is a deeply emotional (read caring) person and because of that she sometimes speaks in moral certainties that strictly speaking may not be perfectly articulated. *I _like_ that about her. *You on the other had like to speak with technical accuracy (to a degree which may not be 100% appropriate for this type of group). *I like _that_ about you (even if you ruffle feathers) but clearly you and Lori (and some others) will always be somewhat incompatible. *Hopefully all of use can look past those strange differences we have and see the cat lovers we all are. I now return to my regularly scheduled cynicism. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. :-) You're right in that my style may not be 100% approriate for this group, but I'm glad you recognize that I am indeed trying to be technically accurate. I am what I am and I feel that it is very important, especially in discussions on health issues, and even more especially when disagreement arises. I very much appreciate your take on this. |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
PLEASE STOP [was URGENT TO GINGER-LYN]
I feel I need to jump in here, considering this thread is about me and
my cat and my decisions. I have e-mailed both parties with my feelings, and in general, I think that is where they belong -- in private e-mail. I will only say that each situation is different, and what may be right for one may be wrong for the other. I believe I made the right decision for Cosmo; I could not allow him to suffer in pain needlessly, and I wanted to give him a chance to not be in pain and to feel better again, and to live out what life is left to him (and I believe he has quite a bit of life left to him; as someone posted, he *is* a strong cat). Catnipped is someone I consider a friend, and tripsovercats is new here. But in this case, tripsovercats was completely accurate about my situation, what happened, the hematoma, etc. He/she may have come across to some too strongly, but his/her words comforted me greatly. I hope everyone will give him/her a chance, as it sounds like tripsovercats may have a great deal of insight to offer here. I also believe Catnipped was only trying to help, and only had the best of intentions. But I believe in this situation, her advice was wrong. I hope that in saying that, we remain friends. So, please, let's stop this. I do not want to be the cause of hurt and angry feelings here. Please just remember that Cosmo made it through the surgery (a surgery both the vet and I agreed was necessary), that he has a good chance of recovery, and that your wonderful purrs and prayers made all the difference. Ginger-lyn |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
URGENT TO GINGER-LYN
that needed a BW, Lee
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Apr 16, 5:14 pm, "Matthew" wrote: "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... cat nipped, this is a general pattern I have seen with this poster and is why I have blocked this individual, ginger made her decision, and all you did was offer your experience, that is enough, Lee Ah, I was beginning to wonder. Thanks for the heads up. Hugs, CatNipped This was the same poster that last week told me I was endangering my Rumble life because my vet did not know how to use proper nutrition to control his diabetes since the vet has him on wet and dry food but yet his sugar level is normal as is his blood work. Matthew, I said that your cat was in danger of coming out of remission if he is eating high carb food. This is not my opinion. It's a fact. It happens all the time to diabetic cats that go back to eating dry food. The carbs are harmful. They put stress an an already compromised pancreas. Period. Have you ever tested your cat's blood sugar after 24 hours of being fed only low-carb canned food, then fed your diabetic a dry meal and then tested his blood sugar again? If you actually did this I can assure you you would be unpleasantly surprised. Why do you think cats go into remission when dry food is eliminated from the diet? The stress of unnecessary carbs and the glucose toxicity that is a result of the dry food diet is removed from the equation. That's why. Now, if you want to stop being childish and feel something I have said in this discussion is inaccurate and would like to discuss it or present a different take, by all means be my guest. But if you want to join in libeling Ginger-Lyn's vet or implying she is stupid or incapable of making thoughful decisions with regards to the appropriate care of Cosmo then I will take issue with that. Instead of making this your own personal vendetta, why not just stick to the issue at hand. - - - -- - - - First you tried to tell CatNipped that she was trying to make it "about her". Now you're telling Matthew he's trying to make this his "personal vendetta". Purrsonally, I think you're a real pain in the ass!! (But hey, I could be making this all about me)!! ;oP -- ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Laurie ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~* All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. ~Abraham Lincoln |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
URGENT TO GINGER-LYN
the two of you are going to owe me a keyboard, and you are going to have to
give my 20 pound cat a bath if you keep this up, he does NOT like coffee on his furs, Lee Matthew wrote in message ... "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Apr 16, 5:14 pm, "Matthew" wrote: "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... cat nipped, this is a general pattern I have seen with this poster and is why I have blocked this individual, ginger made her decision, and all you did was offer your experience, that is enough, Lee Ah, I was beginning to wonder. Thanks for the heads up. Hugs, CatNipped This was the same poster that last week told me I was endangering my Rumble life because my vet did not know how to use proper nutrition to control his diabetes since the vet has him on wet and dry food but yet his sugar level is normal as is his blood work. Matthew, I said that your cat was in danger of coming out of remission if he is eating high carb food. This is not my opinion. It's a fact. It happens all the time to diabetic cats that go back to eating dry food. The carbs are harmful. They put stress an an already compromised pancreas. Period. Have you ever tested your cat's blood sugar after 24 hours of being fed only low-carb canned food, then fed your diabetic a dry meal and then tested his blood sugar again? If you actually did this I can assure you you would be unpleasantly surprised. Why do you think cats go into remission when dry food is eliminated from the diet? The stress of unnecessary carbs and the glucose toxicity that is a result of the dry food diet is removed from the equation. That's why. Now, if you want to stop being childish and feel something I have said in this discussion is inaccurate and would like to discuss it or present a different take, by all means be my guest. But if you want to join in libeling Ginger-Lyn's vet or implying she is stupid or incapable of making thoughful decisions with regards to the appropriate care of Cosmo then I will take issue with that. Instead of making this your own personal vendetta, why not just stick to the issue at hand. - - - -- - - - First you tried to tell CatNipped that she was trying to make it "about her". Now you're telling Matthew he's trying to make this his "personal vendetta". Purrsonally, I think you're a real pain in the ass!! (But hey, I could be making this all about me)!! ;oP -- ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Laurie ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~* All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. ~Abraham Lincoln I knew there was a reason I was in love with you ;-) |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
PLEASE STOP [was URGENT TO GINGER-LYN]
you are a very good person, Lee
Ginger-lyn wrote in message ... I feel I need to jump in here, considering this thread is about me and my cat and my decisions. I have e-mailed both parties with my feelings, and in general, I think that is where they belong -- in private e-mail. I will only say that each situation is different, and what may be right for one may be wrong for the other. I believe I made the right decision for Cosmo; I could not allow him to suffer in pain needlessly, and I wanted to give him a chance to not be in pain and to feel better again, and to live out what life is left to him (and I believe he has quite a bit of life left to him; as someone posted, he *is* a strong cat). Catnipped is someone I consider a friend, and tripsovercats is new here. But in this case, tripsovercats was completely accurate about my situation, what happened, the hematoma, etc. He/she may have come across to some too strongly, but his/her words comforted me greatly. I hope everyone will give him/her a chance, as it sounds like tripsovercats may have a great deal of insight to offer here. I also believe Catnipped was only trying to help, and only had the best of intentions. But I believe in this situation, her advice was wrong. I hope that in saying that, we remain friends. So, please, let's stop this. I do not want to be the cause of hurt and angry feelings here. Please just remember that Cosmo made it through the surgery (a surgery both the vet and I agreed was necessary), that he has a good chance of recovery, and that your wonderful purrs and prayers made all the difference. Ginger-lyn |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
PLEASE STOP [was URGENT TO GINGER-LYN]
Ginger-lyn wrote:
I feel I need to jump in here, considering this thread is about me and my cat and my decisions. I have e-mailed both parties with my feelings, and in general, I think that is where they belong -- in private e-mail. I will only say that each situation is different, and what may be right for one may be wrong for the other. I believe I made the right decision for Cosmo; I could not allow him to suffer in pain needlessly, and I wanted to give him a chance to not be in pain and to feel better again, and to live out what life is left to him (and I believe he has quite a bit of life left to him; as someone posted, he *is* a strong cat). Catnipped is someone I consider a friend, and tripsovercats is new here. But in this case, tripsovercats was completely accurate about my situation, what happened, the hematoma, etc. He/she may have come across to some too strongly, but his/her words comforted me greatly. I hope everyone will give him/her a chance, as it sounds like tripsovercats may have a great deal of insight to offer here. I also believe Catnipped was only trying to help, and only had the best of intentions. But I believe in this situation, her advice was wrong. I hope that in saying that, we remain friends. So, please, let's stop this. I do not want to be the cause of hurt and angry feelings here. Please just remember that Cosmo made it through the surgery (a surgery both the vet and I agreed was necessary), that he has a good chance of recovery, and that your wonderful purrs and prayers made all the difference. Ginger-lyn Amen. |
#27
|
|||
|
|||
PLEASE STOP [was URGENT TO GINGER-LYN]
"Ginger-lyn" wrote in message
... I feel I need to jump in here, considering this thread is about me and my cat and my decisions. I have e-mailed both parties with my feelings, and in general, I think that is where they belong -- in private e-mail. I will only say that each situation is different, and what may be right for one may be wrong for the other. I believe I made the right decision for Cosmo; I could not allow him to suffer in pain needlessly, and I wanted to give him a chance to not be in pain and to feel better again, and to live out what life is left to him (and I believe he has quite a bit of life left to him; as someone posted, he *is* a strong cat). Catnipped is someone I consider a friend, and tripsovercats is new here. But in this case, tripsovercats was completely accurate about my situation, what happened, the hematoma, etc. He/she may have come across to some too strongly, but his/her words comforted me greatly. I hope everyone will give him/her a chance, as it sounds like tripsovercats may have a great deal of insight to offer here. I also believe Catnipped was only trying to help, and only had the best of intentions. But I believe in this situation, her advice was wrong. I hope that in saying that, we remain friends. So, please, let's stop this. I do not want to be the cause of hurt and angry feelings here. Please just remember that Cosmo made it through the surgery (a surgery both the vet and I agreed was necessary), that he has a good chance of recovery, and that your wonderful purrs and prayers made all the difference. Ginger-lyn I didn't mean to stir trouble (she says in the midst of trouble she stirred), but only wanted to give you sound advice that my vet gave me (and that worked well for me AND my cat). As you may or may not have noticed I stopped quite a while ago and if "tripsovercats" is determined (as s/he seems to be) to carry on this argument s/he'll have to do so without me. BTW, *did* you vet advise you that a hematoma will be naturally reabsorbed by the body if left untreated? Demi's looked horrible, but she was not in pain and continued to play and eat normally until it eventually went away. Hugs, CatNipped |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
PLEASE STOP [was URGENT TO GINGER-LYN]
BTW, here is a bit more info on hematomas since this is a condition that,
once a cat has it, can recur throughout the rest of their lives - and there really *IS* an alternative to surgery... From: http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/hematoma.html "It is an uncomfortable, rather than painful, condition." From: http://www.dolittler.com/index.cfm/2...oma.veterinary "Having suffered this condition multiple times with my long-lost Agatha (a boxer who saw me through vet school), it irks me a little that hematomas are almost invariably treated surgically. The first episode found me repairing the ear with painful consequences. The two following episodes healed blissfully (though somewhat less attractively) on their own. Given a choice, I'd opt always for less pain, more crinkling." My vet told me that the only reason for surgery is to prevent disfigurement. It was my choice to let my pretty little Demi have a cauliflower ear rather than submit her to the stress and risks of surgery. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ |
#29
|
|||
|
|||
URGENT TO GINGER-LYN
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
PING: Ginger-lyn | Flippy[_3_] | Cat anecdotes | 1 | October 15th 07 09:54 PM |
A new ginger neighbour | Susan M | Cat anecdotes | 28 | April 5th 07 01:37 PM |
My ginger tom | Ryan | Cat health & behaviour | 2 | February 26th 06 04:58 AM |
Ping: Ginger-lyn | Charleen Welton | Cat anecdotes | 3 | June 24th 05 11:54 PM |
On ginger | Dennis Carr | Cat health & behaviour | 2 | May 12th 04 12:32 PM |