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a link was posted in the binary group of the video where the
firefighter gives Sam, the kola, a drink http://tinyurl.com/aa7okd there's also a gallery of pix showing Sam and a fellow survivor. It includes a reunion between Sam and the firefighter rescuer http://tinyurl.com/aff5fg and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Diva's pix is part of a gallery of other survivors at http://tinyurl.com/b876sg -- Steve Touchstone Little Bit, Sammy, Spotty, Princess, Furby and Rocky (RB) Pix at http://tinyurl.com/22pfn8 Vids at http://tinyurl.com/4yb6nj |
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That has me in tears. I remember the Florida fires of 1998 and how close
they came to the animals shelters here. I remember standing on my mothers back porch and telling her get ready to go I see flames. Get the cats and yourself ready to run. That is when we had 11 cats I hope those POS that started the fires find out what Karma truly means "Steve Touchstone" wrote in message news a link was posted in the binary group of the video where the firefighter gives Sam, the kola, a drink http://tinyurl.com/aa7okd there's also a gallery of pix showing Sam and a fellow survivor. It includes a reunion between Sam and the firefighter rescuer http://tinyurl.com/aff5fg and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Diva's pix is part of a gallery of other survivors at http://tinyurl.com/b876sg -- Steve Touchstone Little Bit, Sammy, Spotty, Princess, Furby and Rocky (RB) Pix at http://tinyurl.com/22pfn8 Vids at http://tinyurl.com/4yb6nj |
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Steve Touchstone wrote:
and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) -- Joyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) |
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wrote in message ... Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) -- Joyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) If she was an outside furball she probably could not be found all the noise probably scared the poor thing to death |
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Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) These fires were unlike anything anyone has seen before. The advice up until now is to go early or stay and help fight the fires - usually with Australian bushfires the safest place to be is the house that has a clearing around it as we tend to have fast moving 'canopy' fires that will just go over the top of the house. Unfortunatley, these fires were not usual fires, they were moving at unheard of speeds and burning at an unheard of intensity. On a scale of 1 to 100 for bushfire danger, these were rated at 320. There are a lots of stories where people thought they had up to three hours before the fire front reached them, and normally the would have been right. But not in this case. By the time they realised that they were truly in danger they literally had *seconds* to get the hell out of there. Have you ever managed to catch a panicked cat in just a few seconds? I never have. In those few seconds, if I couldn't grab the cat(s) there and then, I would have just run anyhow. This is what many people were forced to do, leaving behind cats, dogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, horses, and other beloved pets. 189 people didn't make it out. And yes, the tears on the TV were not only for the 189 humans that lost their lives, but for the dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc etc that also died. They've lost *everything*, all their possessions, their home, neighbourhood, community, livelihood, neighbours, friends, children, parents, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives etc etc and will no doubt carry 'survivor guilt' around with them for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't want to burden them with the extra guilt of 'why did you leave your cat behind?' Yowie (sorry, its a bit too close to home) -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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Yowie wrote:
wrote in message Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) There are a lots of stories where people thought they had up to three hours before the fire front reached them, and normally the would have been right. But not in this case. By the time they realised that they were truly in danger they literally had *seconds* to get the hell out of there. Have you ever managed to catch a panicked cat in just a few seconds? I never have. In those few seconds, if I couldn't grab the cat(s) there and then, I would have just run anyhow. This is what many people were forced to do, leaving behind cats, dogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, horses, and other beloved pets. 189 people didn't make it out. And yes, the tears on the TV were not only for the 189 humans that lost their lives, but for the dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc etc that also died. They've lost *everything*, all their possessions, their home, neighbourhood, community, livelihood, neighbours, friends, children, parents, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives etc etc and will no doubt carry 'survivor guilt' around with them for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't want to burden them with the extra guilt of 'why did you leave your cat behind?' Yowie (sorry, its a bit too close to home) I was just asking. I figured there was probably a good reason (not for everyone, because some people simply don't care, but certainly for many) why pets were left behind. Pets were left behind during Hurricane Katrina, too, but in that case, it was often because authorities wouldn't allow people to take their pets. This ended up killing a number of people, because many people refused to leave without their pets, and ended up dying themselves. Since that time there has been legislation making it mandatory for rescue operations to provide shelter for pets in addition to people. Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. And in any case, that cat had a very good survival instinct to crawl into a wombat hole. Or maybe she just got lucky? -- Joyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) |
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Yowie wrote:
wrote in message Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) These fires were unlike anything anyone has seen before. The advice up until now is to go early or stay and help fight the fires - usually with Australian bushfires the safest place to be is the house that has a clearing around it as we tend to have fast moving 'canopy' fires that will just go over the top of the house. Unfortunatley, these fires were not usual fires, they were moving at unheard of speeds and burning at an unheard of intensity. On a scale of 1 to 100 for bushfire danger, these were rated at 320. There are a lots of stories where people thought they had up to three hours before the fire front reached them, and normally the would have been right. But not in this case. By the time they realised that they were truly in danger they literally had *seconds* to get the hell out of there. Have you ever managed to catch a panicked cat in just a few seconds? I never have. In those few seconds, if I couldn't grab the cat(s) there and then, I would have just run anyhow. This is what many people were forced to do, leaving behind cats, dogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, horses, and other beloved pets. 189 people didn't make it out. And yes, the tears on the TV were not only for the 189 humans that lost their lives, but for the dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc etc that also died. They've lost *everything*, all their possessions, their home, neighbourhood, community, livelihood, neighbours, friends, children, parents, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives etc etc and will no doubt carry 'survivor guilt' around with them for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't want to burden them with the extra guilt of 'why did you leave your cat behind?' Yowie (sorry, its a bit too close to home) Horrible!horrible!horrible! I'm with Matthew on his wishes for karma. MLB |
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"Steve Touchstone" wrote in message
news a link was posted in the binary group of the video where the firefighter gives Sam, the kola, a drink http://tinyurl.com/aa7okd there's also a gallery of pix showing Sam and a fellow survivor. It includes a reunion between Sam and the firefighter rescuer http://tinyurl.com/aff5fg and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Diva's pix is part of a gallery of other survivors at http://tinyurl.com/b876sg -- Steve Touchstone Little Bit, Sammy, Spotty, Princess, Furby and Rocky (RB) Pix at http://tinyurl.com/22pfn8 Vids at http://tinyurl.com/4yb6nj I'm glad some animals survived, and I ache (and cry) for all those that didn't. I've never seen a naked sulfur-crested cockatoo before. Joy |
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wrote in message ... Yowie wrote: wrote in message Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) There are a lots of stories where people thought they had up to three hours before the fire front reached them, and normally the would have been right. But not in this case. By the time they realised that they were truly in danger they literally had *seconds* to get the hell out of there. Have you ever managed to catch a panicked cat in just a few seconds? I never have. In those few seconds, if I couldn't grab the cat(s) there and then, I would have just run anyhow. This is what many people were forced to do, leaving behind cats, dogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, horses, and other beloved pets. 189 people didn't make it out. And yes, the tears on the TV were not only for the 189 humans that lost their lives, but for the dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc etc that also died. They've lost *everything*, all their possessions, their home, neighbourhood, community, livelihood, neighbours, friends, children, parents, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives etc etc and will no doubt carry 'survivor guilt' around with them for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't want to burden them with the extra guilt of 'why did you leave your cat behind?' Yowie (sorry, its a bit too close to home) I was just asking. I figured there was probably a good reason (not for everyone, because some people simply don't care, but certainly for many) why pets were left behind. Pets were left behind during Hurricane Katrina, too, but in that case, it was often because authorities wouldn't allow people to take their pets. This ended up killing a number of people, because many people refused to leave without their pets, and ended up dying themselves. Since that time there has been legislation making it mandatory for rescue operations to provide shelter for pets in addition to people. Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. And in any case, that cat had a very good survival instinct to crawl into a wombat hole. Or maybe she just got lucky? -- Joyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) I would not leave my furballs behind ever. The first person that tried to stop me would get a serious mud stomping in their ass. I am so glad that those senators got no pets let behind act to go through here in the US. |
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Yowie wrote: wrote in message Steve Touchstone wrote: and, finally, here's a pic of a lucky kitty, named Diva, who survived being left behind as her family evacuated http://tinyurl.com/cr2f8c Smart kitty! (But why did her family leave her behind??) There are a lots of stories where people thought they had up to three hours before the fire front reached them, and normally the would have been right. But not in this case. By the time they realised that they were truly in danger they literally had *seconds* to get the hell out of there. Have you ever managed to catch a panicked cat in just a few seconds? I never have. In those few seconds, if I couldn't grab the cat(s) there and then, I would have just run anyhow. This is what many people were forced to do, leaving behind cats, dogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, fish, horses, and other beloved pets. 189 people didn't make it out. And yes, the tears on the TV were not only for the 189 humans that lost their lives, but for the dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc etc that also died. They've lost *everything*, all their possessions, their home, neighbourhood, community, livelihood, neighbours, friends, children, parents, sisters, brothers, husbands, wives etc etc and will no doubt carry 'survivor guilt' around with them for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't want to burden them with the extra guilt of 'why did you leave your cat behind?' Yowie (sorry, its a bit too close to home) I was just asking. I figured there was probably a good reason (not for everyone, because some people simply don't care, but certainly for many) why pets were left behind. Pets were left behind during Hurricane Katrina, too, but in that case, it was often because authorities wouldn't allow people to take their pets. This ended up killing a number of people, because many people refused to leave without their pets, and ended up dying themselves. Since that time there has been legislation making it mandatory for rescue operations to provide shelter for pets in addition to people. Didn't mean to ruffle feathers. And in any case, that cat had a very good survival instinct to crawl into a wombat hole. Or maybe she just got lucky? Nor did I mean to sound like what I was saying was against you personally Joyce, it wasn't. I didn't think it was you who might condemn such people for leaving their pets behind, just ranting at some who might. The nerves are still raw on this one and I apologise if it felt like me attacking you. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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