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Winter weather, stray cats and water question
Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA |
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Winter weather, stray cats and water question
no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that
will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message ... Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA |
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I might be able to trap it but there are no "No kill" shelters in area. Humane Society of Saginaw County prefers young sociable adoptable cats and this is a non friendly adult cat. In the couple years I have been feeding him he has not let me touch him once. He comes when he sees me and meows when I talk to him because he knows I am there to feed him but stays just far enough away so I can not touch him. I can not take him in cause I already have 4 I took in which is already 1 above the legal limit. That leaves the county shelter which will keep him 3 days then ------. As I said as long as he has shelter and is healthy I would rather leave him be but am always watching for someone that might take him in. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:01 -0600, "Stormmee" wrote: no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message . .. Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA |
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better to feed him and let him be then, Lee
kraut wrote in message ... I might be able to trap it but there are no "No kill" shelters in area. Humane Society of Saginaw County prefers young sociable adoptable cats and this is a non friendly adult cat. In the couple years I have been feeding him he has not let me touch him once. He comes when he sees me and meows when I talk to him because he knows I am there to feed him but stays just far enough away so I can not touch him. I can not take him in cause I already have 4 I took in which is already 1 above the legal limit. That leaves the county shelter which will keep him 3 days then ------. As I said as long as he has shelter and is healthy I would rather leave him be but am always watching for someone that might take him in. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:01 -0600, "Stormmee" wrote: no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message . .. Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA |
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My grandparents had cats for years in the barn, they fed them but they
managed to get water on their own. If snow are rain are present, they should be ok. I put out food at night and it is always gone. Have no idea what eats it!!! "Stormmee" wrote in message ... better to feed him and let him be then, Lee kraut wrote in message ... I might be able to trap it but there are no "No kill" shelters in area. Humane Society of Saginaw County prefers young sociable adoptable cats and this is a non friendly adult cat. In the couple years I have been feeding him he has not let me touch him once. He comes when he sees me and meows when I talk to him because he knows I am there to feed him but stays just far enough away so I can not touch him. I can not take him in cause I already have 4 I took in which is already 1 above the legal limit. That leaves the county shelter which will keep him 3 days then ------. As I said as long as he has shelter and is healthy I would rather leave him be but am always watching for someone that might take him in. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:01 -0600, "Stormmee" wrote: no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message . .. Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA |
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I believe they can eat snow, but it uses up their body heat to melt it.
If they are well fed they will find what they need if there is clean snow or water available to them. I had an outside cat, Jetadiah, for whom I made an insulated box. It worked well, but you have to remember to line it with carpet or blankets or something that breathes. If you use styrofoam, it;'s nice and warm but the cat or whatever animal will wind up with badly matted fur from sweating against the foam. It needs to be adequatly lined. Then maybe you could get it away from your neighbour's house. If you seethe cat and it nows you you could put the water out and it should have some before it freezes. You know,... you do what you can. Some times you can put water in a bowl over a pot or deeper bowl with warm water, Know that a hard container that constricts the water as it freezes will probably break. Plastic containers may work better for this. It will eventually freeze, but it extends the time till that happens. On Wednesday 28 November 2007 12:41, kraut wrote: I might be able to trap it but there are no "No kill" shelters in area. Humane Society of Saginaw County prefers young sociable adoptable cats and this is a non friendly adult cat. In the couple years I have been feeding him he has not let me touch him once. He comes when he sees me and meows when I talk to him because he knows I am there to feed him but stays just far enough away so I can not touch him. I can not take him in cause I already have 4 I took in which is already 1 above the legal limit. That leaves the county shelter which will keep him 3 days then ------. As I said as long as he has shelter and is healthy I would rather leave him be but am always watching for someone that might take him in. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:01 -0600, "Stormmee" wrote: no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message ... Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA -- Regards, Fred http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html |
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the TED helper sad something to me recently it was" when your interaction
with the animal is completed and they are better off that is success, not always ideal but you have made a living being better in their circumstances so it was a success", soft Fred Williams wrote in message ... I believe they can eat snow, but it uses up their body heat to melt it. If they are well fed they will find what they need if there is clean snow or water available to them. I had an outside cat, Jetadiah, for whom I made an insulated box. It worked well, but you have to remember to line it with carpet or blankets or something that breathes. If you use styrofoam, it;'s nice and warm but the cat or whatever animal will wind up with badly matted fur from sweating against the foam. It needs to be adequatly lined. Then maybe you could get it away from your neighbour's house. If you seethe cat and it nows you you could put the water out and it should have some before it freezes. You know,... you do what you can. Some times you can put water in a bowl over a pot or deeper bowl with warm water, Know that a hard container that constricts the water as it freezes will probably break. Plastic containers may work better for this. It will eventually freeze, but it extends the time till that happens. On Wednesday 28 November 2007 12:41, kraut wrote: I might be able to trap it but there are no "No kill" shelters in area. Humane Society of Saginaw County prefers young sociable adoptable cats and this is a non friendly adult cat. In the couple years I have been feeding him he has not let me touch him once. He comes when he sees me and meows when I talk to him because he knows I am there to feed him but stays just far enough away so I can not touch him. I can not take him in cause I already have 4 I took in which is already 1 above the legal limit. That leaves the county shelter which will keep him 3 days then ------. As I said as long as he has shelter and is healthy I would rather leave him be but am always watching for someone that might take him in. On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:31:01 -0600, "Stormmee" wrote: no suggestions but dry food is better than he would get without you so that will give him the strength to get water on his own, too bad you can't catch this one, soft kraut wrote in message ... Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind chill of 11 degrees. Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I am not there. Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner dishes and old plastic bowls etc. Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and such. TIA -- Regards, Fred http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html |
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Actually there's quite a lot you can do, but I've forgotten most of it since
I now live in central TX where water almost never freezes. But I remember Styrofoam and heat pack solutions and others. So, I advise you to join the following Yahoo group. They have helped me a lot. They are incredibly knowledgeable and supportive of people helping out strays/ferals/etc.: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ KathyG : Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind : chill of 11 degrees. : : Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. : : I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. : The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a : garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to : make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As : long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I : would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat : then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I : am not there. : : Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him : nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok : if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle : of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as : soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and : drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. : : Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily : weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to : the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner : dishes and old plastic bowls etc. : : Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and : such. : : TIA : : |
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Thanks for reply but there is no problem with shelter. I was just asking about water. As I said I have been feeding her for a couple years and she made it through the last couple winters so she has managed without a ready supply of water but I was just wanting to make it as easy as possible for her / him. To be honest one of my main worries is with me being in mid sixties what if for some reason I can not comtinue to care for it through winter?? I had open heart surgery this summer and could not drive for about 7 weeks and could find no one willing to take time to help care for it. I made sure it had lots of dry food and a large bowl of water before I went in. If something happened during winter it would be left alone all of a sudden then what?!?!? People tell me I worry too much about these animals whether they be cats, squirrils, etc but I do not see how someone who would care about a pet can not care about others. I know people that have indoor pets but yet could walk right by a stray that is sick or dieing (SP) and not lift a finge to help them!!! Thanks for all suggestions and for listening to me. Actually there's quite a lot you can do, but I've forgotten most of it since I now live in central TX where water almost never freezes. But I remember Styrofoam and heat pack solutions and others. So, I advise you to join the following Yahoo group. They have helped me a lot. They are incredibly knowledgeable and supportive of people helping out strays/ferals/etc.: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ : Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind : chill of 11 degrees. : : Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. : : I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. : The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a : garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to : make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As : long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I : would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat : then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I : am not there. : : Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him : nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok : if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle : of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as : soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and : drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. : : Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily : weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to : the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner : dishes and old plastic bowls etc. : : Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and : such. : : TIA : : |
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Kraut, you have a good heart we can all purrrr that someone will step up and
help. That is about all we can do as we all know that PURRRZ have helped in other situations. "kraut" wrote in message news Thanks for reply but there is no problem with shelter. I was just asking about water. As I said I have been feeding her for a couple years and she made it through the last couple winters so she has managed without a ready supply of water but I was just wanting to make it as easy as possible for her / him. To be honest one of my main worries is with me being in mid sixties what if for some reason I can not comtinue to care for it through winter?? I had open heart surgery this summer and could not drive for about 7 weeks and could find no one willing to take time to help care for it. I made sure it had lots of dry food and a large bowl of water before I went in. If something happened during winter it would be left alone all of a sudden then what?!?!? People tell me I worry too much about these animals whether they be cats, squirrils, etc but I do not see how someone who would care about a pet can not care about others. I know people that have indoor pets but yet could walk right by a stray that is sick or dieing (SP) and not lift a finge to help them!!! Thanks for all suggestions and for listening to me. Actually there's quite a lot you can do, but I've forgotten most of it since I now live in central TX where water almost never freezes. But I remember Styrofoam and heat pack solutions and others. So, I advise you to join the following Yahoo group. They have helped me a lot. They are incredibly knowledgeable and supportive of people helping out strays/ferals/etc.: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ : Morning all. It is 9:04 AM in Michigan and 22 degrees with a wind : chill of 11 degrees. : : Was wondering if anyone else that feeds strays could help me out here. : : I have a couple strays that I feed and have been for a couple years. : The one has shelter that he can use under a persons house and in a : garage. I also leave dry food under this persons porch and try to : make it there once a day to give it a can of food and some water. As : long as he has shelter and I can feed him and it is in good health I : would rather not catch him. The other one usually shows up to eat : then leaves but judging by dry food use it and / or others eat when I : am not there. : : Thing is I do not live there and this guy that does will not feed him : nor will he let me use elecricity for heated bowls but says it is ok : if it is there and I feed him. I can feed him PERIOD. In the middle : of winter the canned food and water starts freezeing almost almost as : soon as I put it out so if the cats are not right there to eat and : drink it freezes solid. They still have their dry food but no water. : : Remember I do not live in the area but try to make it there daily : weather permitting. Anything decent I leave there is stolen due to : the type of area so can not use anything fancy for them. TV dinner : dishes and old plastic bowls etc. : : Any reasonable suggestion or will they get enough water from snow and : such. : : TIA : : |
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