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Monique
jmcquown wrote: Karen wrote: I tell you what, since I started avoiding almost anything that is not organic I have seen a major improvement (also on Librax still). (snippage) I saw Paul Newman on The Tonight Show last week. His daughter (Lisa?) introduced an organic line of foods as a subsidiary off of his Newman's Own food line (proceeds of which go to various charities). His daughter introduced organic dog food. Jay Leno made him a bet of $10 that Paul Newman wouldn't eat the organic dog food. Paul hesitated a moment, then grabbed the open can (chicken and brown rice, I believe it was) and took a spoonful and ate it. He actually looked like he liked it. As they were cutting to a commercial break, he took another spoonful and was eating it. I don't know if this proves anything other than Paul Newman supports his daughters efforts to offer organic dog food, but pulleeeze... I don't want to see someone eating canned dog food on television! Reminds me of Johnny Carson begging for Alpo when Ed McMahon used to do live commercials for that product. I fed my dog Alpo until he was elderly and on prescription food but I wouldn't have eaten it. Would you (the collective you) eat Fancy Feast? That stuff is often more expensive than a can of jack mackerel or salmon when it comes to the weight of the cans. Come on, folks. Depends upon what else was available! ;-) Actually, it's perfectly wholesome food (and, unlike some dog-food, does not contain ground bone, which isn't particularly designed for the human digestive system). The fish-flavored ones are a bit too fishy-tasting for human palates, and the meats are too bland (although a little salt and a few herbs would probably take care of that), but if it were served to you with crackers and a spreader, and you didn't know it was "pet food", I suspect most of us would ind it perfectly acceptable. I have nothing against organic but I'm not going to avoid foodstuffs that don't use pesticides. I use pesticides in my house when those damned Palmetto bugs and Wolf crickets wander in from outside. I just make sure it doesn't affect me and my cats or their food supply. As I understand it, foods raised without pesticides are free of pests because of being grown with other foods that repel the pests that might attack them. Also, sometimes the pesticides incorporate themselves INTO the food (DDT and food-fish, for example - one reason DDT is no longer routinely used). -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth |
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PING: Monique
"Karen" wrote in message news:2006041320204316807%kchuplis@alltelnet... Yeah, increasing my fiber has really helped. You know, I discovered I was eating a LOT of insoluble fiber and not much soluble fiber. So, when I was sickest, I increased the soluble fiber first and then after a week started adding the roughage of insoluble fiber back in. This seems to be working way better. It has taught me I should probably eat some of those things I was not like bread, pasts, rice. Yams are good too. Benefiber helped as it is completely soluble and has no taste (yeah!) so you can really mix it in with anything. Karen, can you mention a few food items that are high in soluble fiber and some that are heigh in insoluble fibre? Which type of fibre are in green vegetables and beans? Thanks! Winnie |
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PING: Monique
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... It's possible, but typically expensive and time consuming. The likely choice organic foods market in Boulder has the parking lot from hell, for example, and I'm literally afraid to park there during peak hours. I am within walking distance to a health food store and it sells organic foods too. The organic foods market in town is in some obscure places. Maybe you can find a more convenient health food store to get organic food instead of going to the organic foods market. Even some supermarkets carry organic foods now as the demand for them are growing. Anyway, I saw a doctor today. She agrees that my symptoms point to IBS, but she also took blood for a thyroid test and I'm supposed to give some icky samples to a lab to rule out parasites and whatnot. She prescribed me an anti-spasmodic (sp?) to try; curious to see if it will help and how the side effects are. She also mentioned that anti depressants have been successfully used in treating IBS. That's a possibility, but one that makes me uneasy. I can understand that. I was antidepressants once and stopped taking it before the prescription was finished. There can be many side effects. Did the doctor say your symptoms may be brought on by stress? If you do want to try a high fiber diet, ncrease the fiber slowly. Winnie -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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Monique
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:18:39 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: I have nothing against organic but I'm not going to avoid foodstuffs that don't use pesticides. I use pesticides in my house when those damned Palmetto bugs and Wolf crickets wander in from outside. I just make sure it doesn't affect me and my cats or their food supply. As I understand it, foods raised without pesticides are free of pests because of being grown with other foods that repel the pests that might attack them. Also, sometimes the pesticides incorporate themselves INTO the food (DDT and food-fish, for example - one reason DDT is no longer routinely used). minor rant warning Organic producers / growers *do* use pesticides, it's just that they use pesticides derived from natural products - e.g. pyrethrum derived from the pyrethrum plant (a kind of daisy) or garlic, rather than generated in a laboratory. It is a very common fallacy that organic means "pesticide free", but it ain't so. I do, however, strongly agree that the reduction in use (or banning) of long-term, persistent pesticides and herbicides (like DDT) is a good thing and we were stupid to have ever used these things. People will be paying for the use of these poisons for generations to come - just look at the poor folks in Vietnam who are still suffering the after-effects of the abuse of the defoliant (i.e. a herbicide) Agent Orange during the Vietnam war. Oddly enough, some of these natural pesticides (pyrethrum being a good example) *can* be more damaging to the local insect ecology than the nasty laboratory ones that have a more specific action. Pyrethrum is extremely good at killing insects (unless they develop resistance - another story), but its problem is that it is very broad in its action and will kill beneficial as well as pest insects. If you're an organic or biodynamic farmer and want / need to maintain healthy population of beneficial insects, which includes pollinators like bees and predators like ladybirds, frequent spraying the totally natural, organic and earth-friendly pyrethrum will do more harm than good. Other pest control methods, like companion planting that Evelyn mentioned, are more complex to use and require much more time monitoring both pest and beneficial insect populations, but in a small-scale operation that doesn't use large-scale monocultures, can be better in the long run. rant finished I suppose that I'd better go out to my veggie patch now and pick off the cabbage white butterfly eggs that have been laid on my broccoli seedlings. I only have 8 seedlings, so it's not too much of a chore! Keeping the kangaroo out of my veggie patch is much more of a challenge! (they've eaten *all* the leaves off my okra, stripped the parsley, nibbled most of my chillis, and are having a serious attempt at my basil - grrrr!). Gosh, I didn't expect I'd write that much! Tish |
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PING: Monique
On 2006-04-13 22:36:50 -0500, "W. Leong" said:
"Karen" wrote in message news:2006041320204316807%kchuplis@alltelnet... Yeah, increasing my fiber has really helped. You know, I discovered I was eating a LOT of insoluble fiber and not much soluble fiber. So, when I was sickest, I increased the soluble fiber first and then after a week started adding the roughage of insoluble fiber back in. This seems to be working way better. It has taught me I should probably eat some of those things I was not like bread, pasts, rice. Yams are good too. Benefiber helped as it is completely soluble and has no taste (yeah!) so you can really mix it in with anything. Karen, can you mention a few food items that are high in soluble fiber and some that are heigh in insoluble fibre? Which type of fibre are in green vegetables and beans? Thanks! Winnie This is the list I kept seeing everywhere for soluble fiber so, I worked off that and added all other fibers back in; seems like most everything else is insoluble to some degree. But I'm not an expert by any means. There is very little on this list that I ate befo As a general rule, the grain and cereal foods at the top of this list make the safest, easiest, and most versatile soluble fiber foundations for your meals and snacks. Rice Pasta and noodles Oatmeal Barley Fresh white breads such as French or sourdough (NOT whole wheat or whole grain)* Rice cereals Flour tortillas Soy Quinoa Corn meal Potatoes Carrots Yams Sweet potatoes Turnips Rutabagas Parsnips Beets Squash and pumpkins Mushrooms Chestnuts AvocadosBananas Applesauce Mangoes Papayas *Please choose a baked-daily, high quality, preservative-free brand. White bread does not mean Wonder. |
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PING: Monique
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... I've been curious about these for a while. Maybe time to check 'em out. Anyway, I saw a doctor today. She agrees that my symptoms point to IBS, but she also took blood for a thyroid test and I'm supposed to give some icky samples to a lab to rule out parasites and whatnot. There is a good section on IBS at http://www.drweil.com/u/HC/HCA259/#4 Worth checking it out. Winnie She prescribed me an anti-spasmodic (sp?) to try; curious to see if it will help and how the side effects are. She also mentioned that anti depressants have been successfully used in treating IBS. That's a possibility, but one that makes me uneasy. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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Monique
Tish Silberbauer wrote:
but in a small-scale operation that doesn't use large-scale monocultures, can be better in the long run. Tish, just wondering what the word "monocultures" means in this context. Does it mean planting a large area with a single crop, rather than mixing different ones together? Joyce |
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Monique
Tish Silberbauer wrote:
Tish, just wondering what the word "monocultures" means in this context. I guess I was trying to make the distinction between a market garden or home veggie patch and the broadacre crops like wheat, cotton and canola. I've heard the term before and haven't been quite sure what it means. Sounds like I guessed pretty much correctly. Joyce |
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Monique
Tish Silberbauer wrote: On 14 Apr 2006 05:33:42 GMT, wrote: Tish Silberbauer wrote: but in a small-scale operation that doesn't use large-scale monocultures, can be better in the long run. Tish, just wondering what the word "monocultures" means in this context. Does it mean planting a large area with a single crop, rather than mixing different ones together? Joyce I guess I was trying to make the distinction between a market garden or home veggie patch and the broadacre crops like wheat, cotton and canola. There is a fair bit of evidence that mixing different crops or vegetation types (doesn't always have to be crops - can be native or decorative plants) in small patches means you have fewer pest problems than having a lot of a single type of vegetation. Caveat: this is not my area of speciality, it is just something I'm interested in. Cheers, Tish Yes, that's right, to my understanding too. Monoculture is like acres and acres of the same thing--that's a paradise to aphids, and other pests. Organic gardening relies a lot on "companion" crops. Like planting marigolds with your squash because it repels squash bugs. And planting lavender and things that attract ladybugs and preying mantises, so that you'll have them to eat the aphids and bad bugs. Roses like to have garlic as a "companion". Companion crops aren't a new fad at all. The Native Americans used that concept. Isn't it funny how after all the chemical research to develop the chemical sprays, all the developing of the technology to have a way to spray them, some of us like to go back to the way the Native Americans did it hundreds of years ago. Sherry |
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