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Do you have pics of your cats online??
"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:bqoJa.68002$Dr3.18375@fed1read02... Apparently none of you are metaphysical and thinking too human. Do you fear that my theory might be true. I for one have a relationship with my cats and have found on many occasions when I try to pick up my cat Jade and kiss her on the head or hug her, she meows as if to state "oh come on daddy, not again, I am an adult kitty here." I think you here need to think outside the lines and put away your human way of thinking and actually talk to your cats. I talk to my cat all the time, and she kind of talks back..in a non human non verbal way. I can tell by body language what she is feeling but I don't try and credit her with human feelings. Humiliation is a human emotion. Think about it? Why do we feel humiliated? because when we do something silly we are laughed at, we are ridiculed by our peers. Unless you are dressing up your dog and taking him to doggy park where he or she is likely to subjected to the kind of feelings your talking about then there is no reason for him/her to ever feel humiliated about dressing up. Not if you tell him how smart he looks. If a male child grew up wearing a dress and no one ever made him feel embarrassed by it, then he would never feel humiliation..wouldn't know he was supposed to. Not sure if I explained that very well. Point is, I don't have a problem with cats thinking or feeling the way I do but you can't credit them with learned emotions unless you teach them . AG |
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My cat Jade huffs when she dislikes something or if she feels that someone
has invaded her space enough. She does meow to let people know she wants time to herself. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... I inherited a cat that whiffles in disgust when I tell her not to do something. She huffs out through her nose, just like we do through our mouth when frustrated or disgusted. It's very cute. Karen |
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My cat Jade huffs when she dislikes something or if she feels that someone
has invaded her space enough. She does meow to let people know she wants time to herself. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Karen Chuplis" wrote in message ... I inherited a cat that whiffles in disgust when I tell her not to do something. She huffs out through her nose, just like we do through our mouth when frustrated or disgusted. It's very cute. Karen |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:BRvJa.68077$Dr3.5107@fed1read02... Once again you think too human. How is humiliation just a human feeling? Humiliation is a learned emotion. Did you not read the whole post? Humiliation is something we feel at the hands of our peers. It's not a base or instinct feeling like hunger, fear or love. So..unless you teach your cat to feel humiliated by putting ears on it than pointing and laughing and then ignoring him (like kids do to each other in school) he or she is not going to experience that feeling just by wearing a costume. In fact, we teach our pets pride when we tell them how beautiful they are. That's why your cat walks around like it's all that and then some, because you taught it pride. I bet the cat in the ears felt more pride than anything cuz his slave probably told him how great he looked. AG |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:BRvJa.68077$Dr3.5107@fed1read02... Once again you think too human. How is humiliation just a human feeling? Humiliation is a learned emotion. Did you not read the whole post? Humiliation is something we feel at the hands of our peers. It's not a base or instinct feeling like hunger, fear or love. So..unless you teach your cat to feel humiliated by putting ears on it than pointing and laughing and then ignoring him (like kids do to each other in school) he or she is not going to experience that feeling just by wearing a costume. In fact, we teach our pets pride when we tell them how beautiful they are. That's why your cat walks around like it's all that and then some, because you taught it pride. I bet the cat in the ears felt more pride than anything cuz his slave probably told him how great he looked. AG |
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I read the whole post exactly. How on earth do you teach humiliation. It is
a natural feeling which is not tought. It simply is. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message t... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:BRvJa.68077$Dr3.5107@fed1read02... Once again you think too human. How is humiliation just a human feeling? Humiliation is a learned emotion. Did you not read the whole post? Humiliation is something we feel at the hands of our peers. It's not a base or instinct feeling like hunger, fear or love. So..unless you teach your cat to feel humiliated by putting ears on it than pointing and laughing and then ignoring him (like kids do to each other in school) he or she is not going to experience that feeling just by wearing a costume. In fact, we teach our pets pride when we tell them how beautiful they are. That's why your cat walks around like it's all that and then some, because you taught it pride. I bet the cat in the ears felt more pride than anything cuz his slave probably told him how great he looked. AG |
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I read the whole post exactly. How on earth do you teach humiliation. It is
a natural feeling which is not tought. It simply is. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Agua Girl" wrote in message t... "Cat Protector" wrote in message news:BRvJa.68077$Dr3.5107@fed1read02... Once again you think too human. How is humiliation just a human feeling? Humiliation is a learned emotion. Did you not read the whole post? Humiliation is something we feel at the hands of our peers. It's not a base or instinct feeling like hunger, fear or love. So..unless you teach your cat to feel humiliated by putting ears on it than pointing and laughing and then ignoring him (like kids do to each other in school) he or she is not going to experience that feeling just by wearing a costume. In fact, we teach our pets pride when we tell them how beautiful they are. That's why your cat walks around like it's all that and then some, because you taught it pride. I bet the cat in the ears felt more pride than anything cuz his slave probably told him how great he looked. AG |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:axyJa.68093$Dr3.15223@fed1read02... I read the whole post exactly. How on earth do you teach humiliation. It is a natural feeling which is not tought. It simply is. Not really. Check it out, read some books on the human psyche. We get positive reinforcement and it makes us feel good, we get negative reinforcement and it makes us feel bad. Those are the base emotions you are associating with humiliation. Humans feel humiliated when someone injures their pride..or gives them negative input in response to something they did, said, wore etc. You can't feel humiliated without the negative input..it's not a feeling you just have. It's the old tree falling in a forest thing. If you do something really stupid that would normally make you feel humiliated..but no one else knows or will ever know...do you still feel humiliated? of course not (unless you have self esteem issues) because you didn't get negative in put in response. It's learned. If your cat does something silly or gets dressed up in bunny ears the only possible way he could feel anything negative is for you to give him negative input. Most emotions are learned responses based on input. They all work off of base emotions but what triggers the emotion and the response is "learned". We learn to be embarrassed about certain things based on negative input when we do them, we learn to feel pride about things based on positive input when we achieve them. AG |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:axyJa.68093$Dr3.15223@fed1read02... I read the whole post exactly. How on earth do you teach humiliation. It is a natural feeling which is not tought. It simply is. Not really. Check it out, read some books on the human psyche. We get positive reinforcement and it makes us feel good, we get negative reinforcement and it makes us feel bad. Those are the base emotions you are associating with humiliation. Humans feel humiliated when someone injures their pride..or gives them negative input in response to something they did, said, wore etc. You can't feel humiliated without the negative input..it's not a feeling you just have. It's the old tree falling in a forest thing. If you do something really stupid that would normally make you feel humiliated..but no one else knows or will ever know...do you still feel humiliated? of course not (unless you have self esteem issues) because you didn't get negative in put in response. It's learned. If your cat does something silly or gets dressed up in bunny ears the only possible way he could feel anything negative is for you to give him negative input. Most emotions are learned responses based on input. They all work off of base emotions but what triggers the emotion and the response is "learned". We learn to be embarrassed about certain things based on negative input when we do them, we learn to feel pride about things based on positive input when we achieve them. AG |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:ldEJa.68101$Dr3.51847@fed1read02... Once again. Typical human thinking. Heh...boy you do think you're spock don't you. I give up. Ignorance does not make you enlightened but if you are happier living in your make believe world than more power to you. AG (reality based) |
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