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Must Discuss the Kitties' Welfair
I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Stormmee" wrote in message ... it must be difficult to be so pompus, -the posts were cross posted, i didn't do that. -take a lesson from mary l and jmc, choose not to read it, but don't be abusive and rude about something you don't choose to participate in, again read mary l's polite and thought ful post, Lee.. who doesn't need to fill out a resume as she has been self employeed for the last twenty years or so "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "jmc" wrote in message ... Suddenly, without warning, Stormmee exclaimed (7/25/2010 8:41 AM): if you are referring to meowchat, please do not disparage something you don't understand, if you are referring to something else please ignore this post, Lee "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... "Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message ... "nice guy" nice wrote in message ... What is 'Welfair'? Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish. What he's suggesting is this is not an appropriate place for meowchat. I'm another one who chooses not to read it. No cheezburgers here jmc I usually don't either....For one thing, they top post, which also annoys me....But I was answering some one else's comment with an observation of my own. It must be very hard to write such gibberish.....Also, it would tend to make correct spelling more difficult, just in case you needed to spell something correctly.....Like filling out a resume for a job as an English teacher. (for example......:^) Sorry its taken so long for me to reply to your posts.....I really don't mean to be so "pompous". But there has been a movement over the last twenty or thirty years to trash the traditional spelling of the English language, and, "modernize it" into a faster, more streamlined format that simplifies it and makes it easier to learn, as well as more phonetic to read. I am against this movement for the following reason. The origins of our words interests me greatly, and it is possible, from their spelling, to ascertain their roots and history. English comes from not only Greek and Latin origins, but also Germanic and Norse beginnings. It is true that it is a, "Living language" in that it is always changing and taking on new words, but many of these come from different languages and have a "history" of their own. I really have nothing against misspelling for fun, and I have seen many cleaver poems written in this way. Its just that one of my hobbies has been trying to figure out the meanings of words from their spelling subtleties, and I can visualize a day when this will be impossible should the modernizers win out, so I do what I can to discourage it. |
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"Stormmee" wrote in message ... I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting worse all the time...... |
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On Aug 2, 2:07*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
"Stormmee" wrote in message ... I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do creative writing. *it is no more or less important than that to the broader society or english written or spoken word. *if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting worse all the time...... Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content. The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their own. :-) Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text messaging. Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand. And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and capitalization when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school system. Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays. Sherry |
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"Sherry" wrote in message ... On Aug 2, 2:07 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote: "Stormmee" wrote in message ... I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting worse all the time...... Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content. The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their own. :-) Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text messaging. Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand. And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and capitalization when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school system. Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays. Sherry Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And, because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens band transceivers in trucks. but now, because some idiots try to read the tiny printing on their cell phone screens while driving, I can't answer my cell phone while in my car anymore! The other day, When I was on my way to pick up a friend, he phoned me to tell me he couldn't make it, and I stopped right in the middle of an intersection to answer my cell phone, much to the disgust of everyone else on the road.....I wonder how long it will take to get the lawmakers to realize that there is a difference between talking and reading....... |
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message ... if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting worse all the time...... Some day the education system and the folks who see themselves as the guardians of the English language (and, I guess, every other language in the world that has mobile phone coverage) are going to have to negotiate. Thanks to texting, we are now in an age of historically unparalleled literacy. There has never been a time when so many people have been writing anything remotely like as much to each other as they are now. So of course our writing systems will have to change. It would be better if we were all using something like Pitman shorthand, so there'd be no need to abbrvi8, but we're stuck with where we are, and txtspk is on the way towards reinventing something like that. You'd think teachers would see such an enormous leap forward in mass literacy as something to celebrate and make creative use of. Not many do. I wonder why the cell phone manufacturers don't make a cell phone that uses shorthand like the courtroom reporters use. That way, the teenagers might learn something that's actually useful while they are talking to one another. |
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On Aug 2, 9:03*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message ... On Aug 2, 2:07 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote: "Stormmee" wrote in message ... I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting worse all the time...... Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content. The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their own. :-) Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text messaging. Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand. And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and capitalization when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school system. Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays. Sherry Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And, because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens band transceivers in trucks. but now, because some idiots try to read the tiny printing on their cell phone screens while driving, I can't answer my cell phone while in my car anymore! The other day, When I was on my way to pick up a friend, he phoned me to tell me he couldn't make it, and I stopped right in the middle of an intersection to answer my cell phone, much to the disgust of everyone else on the road.....I wonder how long it will take to get the lawmakers to realize that there is a difference between talking and reading.......- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's completely insane for one to think they can send and/or read text messages while driving, safely. But they *think* they can! And just to make us both sound like grouchy old people (to them)... I think we're raising a nation of young people who are all going to need carpal tunnel surgery before they're 30. I never answer my cell phone in the car. Whoever it is can wait until I can pull over, stop the car, and call them back. That's what caller ID is for. If I *do* send a text message, I take the extra (seconds!!) to send it in proper English. I don't have it in me to deliberately sound ignorant. I wrote and proofread for a living once. I don't dumb down to save a few seconds. Sherry |
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"Bill Graham" wrote:
Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And, because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens band transceivers in trucks. In the field of psychology and usability design, there were some interesting studies done on the difference between a driver conversing with passengers, and a driver conversing on a mobile phone. It was found that conversing on a phone is far more distracting, and passengers actually helped enhance safety somewhat, by also paying attention to the road. |
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Sherry wrote:
is for. If I *do* send a text message, I take the extra (seconds!!) to send it in proper English. I don't have it in me to deliberately sound ignorant. I wrote and proofread for a living once. I don't dumb down to save a few seconds. I once actually got a job application with a cover letter that concluded, "Hope to hear from u soon." |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote: "Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message ... "nice guy" nice wrote in message ... What is 'Welfair'? Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish. What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real name. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: "Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message ... "nice guy" nice wrote in message ... What is 'Welfair'? Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish. What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real name. Casady If you are talking to me, then yes. Of course I use my real name. Why would anyone not use his/her real name when posting on usenet, unless they are a troll who is too chicken to stand behind whatever he/she posts. I post the truth as well as I know it to be, and stand behind everything I say. When I find out I am wrong about something, then I post the correction. (Except there are usually a thousand trolls who jump on my mistake before I get the chance....:^) |
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