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November 23rd 03, 10:33 PM
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Hiya,
I know EXACTLY what you're feeling, but please, do hang in there a bit more. They adjust to each other on cat time, unfortunately, not on human time. I introduced two not quite two year old females together, one I'd had for nine months as a singleton and it literally took 6 weeks until Flower could move about the house unmolested a decent portion of the time. Now they're working out a timeshare on the backyard. I know it's really emotionally disturbing when one cat is really aggressive towards the other, but honestly, I think it's what they need to do. At 3 months in, mine do pretty OK most of the time (except when Flower "breaks the rules" lol), but there's still a spat of some sort pretty regularly. But they also groom each other sometimes, sleep peacefully in the same room, share litterboxes and left over food and cooperate occaisionally on various kinds of mayhem. And I never thought ANY of that was ever going to happen. Interfere as little as you can manage. Here are some things you can try to keep yourself sane. If they seem to be hurting each other, try a sudden loud clap of the hands to startle them off each other. If you see them glaring or Whiskers looks ready to launch an attack, try throwing a ball or a toy in his face for distraction. Give Whiskers alot of love and one-on-one affection and realize that he's trying to protect his home and his human from another cat who he fears might try to take it all over and run him off. Don't act like you particularly care about Marigold. Act like Whiskers is your cat and Marigold is someone else's cat who you're feeding and letting stay here. You'll have plenty of time to nake it up to Marigold later on and actually she'll be grateful for the lack of attention. Overwhelm Whiskers with love and attention until he can't stand it and will WANT a respite from you. And otherwise just let them work it out. Eventually Whiskers will let Marigold do certain things and be in certain places at certain times without interference. And slowly over time, she'll get more "privileges" .... I'd be surpised if it's still quite as bad in a few months. (Danathar) wrote in message . com... (Danathar) wrote in message . com... So... So I've had Marigold for a week and 3 days now. Marigold is getting fustrated being cooped up in my room (and so am I because she is Meowing at the early hours of the morning!). If I let whiskers in my room, she tolerates Marigold as long as Marigold does not get within 3 feet of whiskers and/or they don't make strait eye contact with one another. If Marigold does not Whiskers will hiss at her and growl. If I let Marigold into the house and whiskers see's Marigold she chases Marigold around my house right back into my room with hisses! So...its better than before, whiskers does not hiss on seeing Margold from a distance, but I'm wondering what to do next? Whiskers does not seem to enjoy having Marigold around  -Doug Well...disaster this morning. Marigold got out of the room I had her in (I had a baby gate in front of the door which until this point she had decided NOT to jump). She hid for a while...I could'nt find her. She found her way into my roomate's room where she was underneath the bed. There was a big problem...that is Whiskers relaxing room. Whiskers found her underneath the bed and all chaos ensued The claws came out and whiskers went after Marigold. I tried to seperate whiskers from Marigold and got my arms scratched off. I know it takes time, but I am wondering if this is really going to work out. Whiskers was REALLY violent towards Marigold. I don't want to have Marigold living in fear while she lives here! Distressed cats owner... -Doug 
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November 23rd 03, 10:33 PM
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Hiya,
I know EXACTLY what you're feeling, but please, do hang in there a bit more. They adjust to each other on cat time, unfortunately, not on human time. I introduced two not quite two year old females together, one I'd had for nine months as a singleton and it literally took 6 weeks until Flower could move about the house unmolested a decent portion of the time. Now they're working out a timeshare on the backyard. I know it's really emotionally disturbing when one cat is really aggressive towards the other, but honestly, I think it's what they need to do. At 3 months in, mine do pretty OK most of the time (except when Flower "breaks the rules" lol), but there's still a spat of some sort pretty regularly. But they also groom each other sometimes, sleep peacefully in the same room, share litterboxes and left over food and cooperate occaisionally on various kinds of mayhem. And I never thought ANY of that was ever going to happen. Interfere as little as you can manage. Here are some things you can try to keep yourself sane. If they seem to be hurting each other, try a sudden loud clap of the hands to startle them off each other. If you see them glaring or Whiskers looks ready to launch an attack, try throwing a ball or a toy in his face for distraction. Give Whiskers alot of love and one-on-one affection and realize that he's trying to protect his home and his human from another cat who he fears might try to take it all over and run him off. Don't act like you particularly care about Marigold. Act like Whiskers is your cat and Marigold is someone else's cat who you're feeding and letting stay here. You'll have plenty of time to nake it up to Marigold later on and actually she'll be grateful for the lack of attention. Overwhelm Whiskers with love and attention until he can't stand it and will WANT a respite from you. And otherwise just let them work it out. Eventually Whiskers will let Marigold do certain things and be in certain places at certain times without interference. And slowly over time, she'll get more "privileges" .... I'd be surpised if it's still quite as bad in a few months. (Danathar) wrote in message . com... (Danathar) wrote in message . com... So... So I've had Marigold for a week and 3 days now. Marigold is getting fustrated being cooped up in my room (and so am I because she is Meowing at the early hours of the morning!). If I let whiskers in my room, she tolerates Marigold as long as Marigold does not get within 3 feet of whiskers and/or they don't make strait eye contact with one another. If Marigold does not Whiskers will hiss at her and growl. If I let Marigold into the house and whiskers see's Marigold she chases Marigold around my house right back into my room with hisses! So...its better than before, whiskers does not hiss on seeing Margold from a distance, but I'm wondering what to do next? Whiskers does not seem to enjoy having Marigold around -Doug Well...disaster this morning. Marigold got out of the room I had her in (I had a baby gate in front of the door which until this point she had decided NOT to jump). She hid for a while...I could'nt find her. She found her way into my roomate's room where she was underneath the bed. There was a big problem...that is Whiskers relaxing room. Whiskers found her underneath the bed and all chaos ensued The claws came out and whiskers went after Marigold. I tried to seperate whiskers from Marigold and got my arms scratched off. I know it takes time, but I am wondering if this is really going to work out. Whiskers was REALLY violent towards Marigold. I don't want to have Marigold living in fear while she lives here! Distressed cats owner... -Doug
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November 24th 03, 10:54 AM
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I TRUELY appreciate the words of encouragement! One think I did'nt
mention was that Whiskers is a female. So, my situation is much like yours. Marigold seems to be doing fine with the whole situation (except when she gets bored with her room...then she meows at 3am...sleep...somebody let me sleep!!...). Marigold is confined to a a couple of rooms (one is my bedroom) that is connected via a bathroom/shower room. Normally I open my door and block it with a baby gate so both cats can see each other. It just kills me that when I have to work and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! She has to be cooped up like this from 6am to 5pm when I work.....and I don't have that many toys for her to play with. I guess I'm not sure if I need to be doing anything other than waiting and trying to let them be in each other's company (supervised). Distressed cats owner... -Doug (Tracy) wrote in message . com... Hiya, I know EXACTLY what you're feeling, but please, do hang in there a bit more. They adjust to each other on cat time, unfortunately, not on human time. I introduced two not quite two year old females together, one I'd had for nine months as a singleton and it literally took 6 weeks until Flower could move about the house unmolested a decent portion of the time. Now they're working out a timeshare on the backyard. I know it's really emotionally disturbing when one cat is really aggressive towards the other, but honestly, I think it's what they need to do. At 3 months in, mine do pretty OK most of the time (except when Flower "breaks the rules" lol), but there's still a spat of some sort pretty regularly. But they also groom each other sometimes, sleep peacefully in the same room, share litterboxes and left over food and cooperate occaisionally on various kinds of mayhem. And I never thought ANY of that was ever going to happen. Interfere as little as you can manage. Here are some things you can try to keep yourself sane. If they seem to be hurting each other, try a sudden loud clap of the hands to startle them off each other. If you see them glaring or Whiskers looks ready to launch an attack, try throwing a ball or a toy in his face for distraction. Give Whiskers alot of love and one-on-one affection and realize that he's trying to protect his home and his human from another cat who he fears might try to take it all over and run him off. Don't act like you particularly care about Marigold. Act like Whiskers is your cat and Marigold is someone else's cat who you're feeding and letting stay here. You'll have plenty of time to nake it up to Marigold later on and actually she'll be grateful for the lack of attention. Overwhelm Whiskers with love and attention until he can't stand it and will WANT a respite from you. And otherwise just let them work it out. Eventually Whiskers will let Marigold do certain things and be in certain places at certain times without interference. And slowly over time, she'll get more "privileges" .... I'd be surpised if it's still quite as bad in a few months. (Danathar) wrote in message . com... (Danathar) wrote in message . com... So... So I've had Marigold for a week and 3 days now. Marigold is getting fustrated being cooped up in my room (and so am I because she is Meowing at the early hours of the morning!). If I let whiskers in my room, she tolerates Marigold as long as Marigold does not get within 3 feet of whiskers and/or they don't make strait eye contact with one another. If Marigold does not Whiskers will hiss at her and growl. If I let Marigold into the house and whiskers see's Marigold she chases Marigold around my house right back into my room with hisses! So...its better than before, whiskers does not hiss on seeing Margold from a distance, but I'm wondering what to do next? Whiskers does not seem to enjoy having Marigold around -Doug Well...disaster this morning. Marigold got out of the room I had her in (I had a baby gate in front of the door which until this point she had decided NOT to jump). She hid for a while...I could'nt find her. She found her way into my roomate's room where she was underneath the bed. There was a big problem...that is Whiskers relaxing room. Whiskers found her underneath the bed and all chaos ensued The claws came out and whiskers went after Marigold. I tried to seperate whiskers from Marigold and got my arms scratched off. I know it takes time, but I am wondering if this is really going to work out. Whiskers was REALLY violent towards Marigold. I don't want to have Marigold living in fear while she lives here! Distressed cats owner... -Doug
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November 24th 03, 10:54 AM
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I TRUELY appreciate the words of encouragement! One think I did'nt
mention was that Whiskers is a female. So, my situation is much like yours. Marigold seems to be doing fine with the whole situation (except when she gets bored with her room...then she meows at 3am...sleep...somebody let me sleep!!...). Marigold is confined to a a couple of rooms (one is my bedroom) that is connected via a bathroom/shower room. Normally I open my door and block it with a baby gate so both cats can see each other. It just kills me that when I have to work and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! She has to be cooped up like this from 6am to 5pm when I work.....and I don't have that many toys for her to play with. I guess I'm not sure if I need to be doing anything other than waiting and trying to let them be in each other's company (supervised). Distressed cats owner... -Doug (Tracy) wrote in message . com... Hiya, I know EXACTLY what you're feeling, but please, do hang in there a bit more. They adjust to each other on cat time, unfortunately, not on human time. I introduced two not quite two year old females together, one I'd had for nine months as a singleton and it literally took 6 weeks until Flower could move about the house unmolested a decent portion of the time. Now they're working out a timeshare on the backyard. I know it's really emotionally disturbing when one cat is really aggressive towards the other, but honestly, I think it's what they need to do. At 3 months in, mine do pretty OK most of the time (except when Flower "breaks the rules" lol), but there's still a spat of some sort pretty regularly. But they also groom each other sometimes, sleep peacefully in the same room, share litterboxes and left over food and cooperate occaisionally on various kinds of mayhem. And I never thought ANY of that was ever going to happen. Interfere as little as you can manage. Here are some things you can try to keep yourself sane. If they seem to be hurting each other, try a sudden loud clap of the hands to startle them off each other. If you see them glaring or Whiskers looks ready to launch an attack, try throwing a ball or a toy in his face for distraction. Give Whiskers alot of love and one-on-one affection and realize that he's trying to protect his home and his human from another cat who he fears might try to take it all over and run him off. Don't act like you particularly care about Marigold. Act like Whiskers is your cat and Marigold is someone else's cat who you're feeding and letting stay here. You'll have plenty of time to nake it up to Marigold later on and actually she'll be grateful for the lack of attention. Overwhelm Whiskers with love and attention until he can't stand it and will WANT a respite from you. And otherwise just let them work it out. Eventually Whiskers will let Marigold do certain things and be in certain places at certain times without interference. And slowly over time, she'll get more "privileges" .... I'd be surpised if it's still quite as bad in a few months. (Danathar) wrote in message . com... (Danathar) wrote in message . com... So... So I've had Marigold for a week and 3 days now. Marigold is getting fustrated being cooped up in my room (and so am I because she is Meowing at the early hours of the morning!). If I let whiskers in my room, she tolerates Marigold as long as Marigold does not get within 3 feet of whiskers and/or they don't make strait eye contact with one another. If Marigold does not Whiskers will hiss at her and growl. If I let Marigold into the house and whiskers see's Marigold she chases Marigold around my house right back into my room with hisses! So...its better than before, whiskers does not hiss on seeing Margold from a distance, but I'm wondering what to do next? Whiskers does not seem to enjoy having Marigold around -Doug Well...disaster this morning. Marigold got out of the room I had her in (I had a baby gate in front of the door which until this point she had decided NOT to jump). She hid for a while...I could'nt find her. She found her way into my roomate's room where she was underneath the bed. There was a big problem...that is Whiskers relaxing room. Whiskers found her underneath the bed and all chaos ensued The claws came out and whiskers went after Marigold. I tried to seperate whiskers from Marigold and got my arms scratched off. I know it takes time, but I am wondering if this is really going to work out. Whiskers was REALLY violent towards Marigold. I don't want to have Marigold living in fear while she lives here! Distressed cats owner... -Doug
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November 24th 03, 10:54 AM
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I TRUELY appreciate the words of encouragement! One think I did'nt
mention was that Whiskers is a female. So, my situation is much like yours. Marigold seems to be doing fine with the whole situation (except when she gets bored with her room...then she meows at 3am...sleep...somebody let me sleep!!...). Marigold is confined to a a couple of rooms (one is my bedroom) that is connected via a bathroom/shower room. Normally I open my door and block it with a baby gate so both cats can see each other. It just kills me that when I have to work and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! She has to be cooped up like this from 6am to 5pm when I work.....and I don't have that many toys for her to play with. I guess I'm not sure if I need to be doing anything other than waiting and trying to let them be in each other's company (supervised). Distressed cats owner... -Doug (Tracy) wrote in message . com... Hiya, I know EXACTLY what you're feeling, but please, do hang in there a bit more. They adjust to each other on cat time, unfortunately, not on human time. I introduced two not quite two year old females together, one I'd had for nine months as a singleton and it literally took 6 weeks until Flower could move about the house unmolested a decent portion of the time. Now they're working out a timeshare on the backyard. I know it's really emotionally disturbing when one cat is really aggressive towards the other, but honestly, I think it's what they need to do. At 3 months in, mine do pretty OK most of the time (except when Flower "breaks the rules" lol), but there's still a spat of some sort pretty regularly. But they also groom each other sometimes, sleep peacefully in the same room, share litterboxes and left over food and cooperate occaisionally on various kinds of mayhem. And I never thought ANY of that was ever going to happen. Interfere as little as you can manage. Here are some things you can try to keep yourself sane. If they seem to be hurting each other, try a sudden loud clap of the hands to startle them off each other. If you see them glaring or Whiskers looks ready to launch an attack, try throwing a ball or a toy in his face for distraction. Give Whiskers alot of love and one-on-one affection and realize that he's trying to protect his home and his human from another cat who he fears might try to take it all over and run him off. Don't act like you particularly care about Marigold. Act like Whiskers is your cat and Marigold is someone else's cat who you're feeding and letting stay here. You'll have plenty of time to nake it up to Marigold later on and actually she'll be grateful for the lack of attention. Overwhelm Whiskers with love and attention until he can't stand it and will WANT a respite from you. And otherwise just let them work it out. Eventually Whiskers will let Marigold do certain things and be in certain places at certain times without interference. And slowly over time, she'll get more "privileges" .... I'd be surpised if it's still quite as bad in a few months. (Danathar) wrote in message . com... (Danathar) wrote in message . com... So... So I've had Marigold for a week and 3 days now. Marigold is getting fustrated being cooped up in my room (and so am I because she is Meowing at the early hours of the morning!). If I let whiskers in my room, she tolerates Marigold as long as Marigold does not get within 3 feet of whiskers and/or they don't make strait eye contact with one another. If Marigold does not Whiskers will hiss at her and growl. If I let Marigold into the house and whiskers see's Marigold she chases Marigold around my house right back into my room with hisses! So...its better than before, whiskers does not hiss on seeing Margold from a distance, but I'm wondering what to do next? Whiskers does not seem to enjoy having Marigold around -Doug Well...disaster this morning. Marigold got out of the room I had her in (I had a baby gate in front of the door which until this point she had decided NOT to jump). She hid for a while...I could'nt find her. She found her way into my roomate's room where she was underneath the bed. There was a big problem...that is Whiskers relaxing room. Whiskers found her underneath the bed and all chaos ensued The claws came out and whiskers went after Marigold. I tried to seperate whiskers from Marigold and got my arms scratched off. I know it takes time, but I am wondering if this is really going to work out. Whiskers was REALLY violent towards Marigold. I don't want to have Marigold living in fear while she lives here! Distressed cats owner... -Doug
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November 24th 03, 05:12 PM
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It just kills me that when I have to work
and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! Why not replace the door temporarily with a screen door? You can get wooden ones for about $20. If you can't find one, it's easy to build one. I have built two in the past two weeks for people that are doing new cat introductions and it only took about an hour and a half. All you need is 1 x 3's, 4 L-shaped brackets, wood screws, aluminum screen, molding to cover the edges of the screen, a staple gun, two cheap door handles and a hook and eye to keep it from being opened. I use the top and bottom hinges that are on the existing door (you don't need the middle one) and then screw them on the edge of the wood and just use the top and bottom screws, leaving the middle screw out as the plate is wider than the wood. I made sure to hang the door so it has at least enough space at the bottom that you can slide a plate under it and the cats can put its paws under the door. I pre-measured everything and went to Home Depot and had the wood and molding cut there, so all I had to do was assemble everything. Either way, a screen door is a better option for you than a baby gate. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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November 24th 03, 05:12 PM
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It just kills me that when I have to work
and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! Why not replace the door temporarily with a screen door? You can get wooden ones for about $20. If you can't find one, it's easy to build one. I have built two in the past two weeks for people that are doing new cat introductions and it only took about an hour and a half. All you need is 1 x 3's, 4 L-shaped brackets, wood screws, aluminum screen, molding to cover the edges of the screen, a staple gun, two cheap door handles and a hook and eye to keep it from being opened. I use the top and bottom hinges that are on the existing door (you don't need the middle one) and then screw them on the edge of the wood and just use the top and bottom screws, leaving the middle screw out as the plate is wider than the wood. I made sure to hang the door so it has at least enough space at the bottom that you can slide a plate under it and the cats can put its paws under the door. I pre-measured everything and went to Home Depot and had the wood and molding cut there, so all I had to do was assemble everything. Either way, a screen door is a better option for you than a baby gate. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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November 24th 03, 05:12 PM
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It just kills me that when I have to work
and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! Why not replace the door temporarily with a screen door? You can get wooden ones for about $20. If you can't find one, it's easy to build one. I have built two in the past two weeks for people that are doing new cat introductions and it only took about an hour and a half. All you need is 1 x 3's, 4 L-shaped brackets, wood screws, aluminum screen, molding to cover the edges of the screen, a staple gun, two cheap door handles and a hook and eye to keep it from being opened. I use the top and bottom hinges that are on the existing door (you don't need the middle one) and then screw them on the edge of the wood and just use the top and bottom screws, leaving the middle screw out as the plate is wider than the wood. I made sure to hang the door so it has at least enough space at the bottom that you can slide a plate under it and the cats can put its paws under the door. I pre-measured everything and went to Home Depot and had the wood and molding cut there, so all I had to do was assemble everything. Either way, a screen door is a better option for you than a baby gate. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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November 24th 03, 10:25 PM
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I can see your point...but somehow I don't think my older brother is
going to be warm to the idea of taking a door off it's hinges  Butyou never know...I'll ask anyhow! thanks! -Doug wrote in message ... It just kills me that when I have to work and my roommate is gone for 3 or 4 days (he is a pilot for a major airline) that I have to close both doors because I know Marigold will try to jump the gate when Whiskers and I are not looking! Why not replace the door temporarily with a screen door? You can get wooden ones for about $20. If you can't find one, it's easy to build one. I have built two in the past two weeks for people that are doing new cat introductions and it only took about an hour and a half. All you need is 1 x 3's, 4 L-shaped brackets, wood screws, aluminum screen, molding to cover the edges of the screen, a staple gun, two cheap door handles and a hook and eye to keep it from being opened. I use the top and bottom hinges that are on the existing door (you don't need the middle one) and then screw them on the edge of the wood and just use the top and bottom screws, leaving the middle screw out as the plate is wider than the wood. I made sure to hang the door so it has at least enough space at the bottom that you can slide a plate under it and the cats can put its paws under the door. I pre-measured everything and went to Home Depot and had the wood and molding cut there, so all I had to do was assemble everything. Either way, a screen door is a better option for you than a baby gate. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray
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