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"Christina Websell" wrote in
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
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This just left me gobsmacked!

http://news.smh.com.au/world/los-ang...0730-3n34.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/5hkvhx

Now Big Brother is telling us what we can and can't eat??!!!

The smoking ban was tough on smokers, but at least there was some
rationale that the non-smoking public was put at risk by second-hand
smoke. But who does it hurt when we eat a Big Mac??!


I always suspected that targeting smokers was the thin end of the
wedge until our eating habits were called into question too. Next,
look out if you buy a bottle of wine to have with your meal more than
x times a week..

*Somebody* here in Australia has declared that having more than four
standard drinks in a day is 'binge drinking', and that having more than 2
standard drinks in a week is 'risky'. The governement is now putting in
plans...

Pardon my swearing, but BULLSH!T.

'Binge Drinking' is when you drink for the sole intention of getting drunk,
and to get *very* drunk at that. Its not a day out at the footy where 4
beers are consumed over 12 hours and the blood alchohol limit never gets
over 0.05%, or even a night out with your spouse where a bottle of wine is
consumed over a romantic dinner. Getting so rat-arsed you pass out, do
stupid things, and put yourself and other people in danger, and have no
memory of what you've done the next day is binge drinking, and yes, its
dangerous (and yes, like most, I indulged in binge drinking as a youth).
Having a few drinks with your friends over the course of a weekend is not,
IMHO.

Ditto with having two drinks a week. Many studies, many *many* studies, have
found beneficial effects of light to moderate alchol consumption. And now
their trying to tell me that having more than two standard drinks in 168
hours is 'risky'.

As a person who has perhaps 3 alcoholic drinks on average a week, I don't
think I have an 'alchohol problem'. By defining me like that, the government
is totally detracting from the person who truly does have an alcoholic
problem. And no, I'm not giving up my 3 drinks a week, I don't think its
'risky' behaviour and the government can sod off in that regard.

Yowie

hopitus wrote:
On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
wrote:
Now, when I go into a grocery store, with my handicapped placard (my
walking distance is very short), and people *see* me walking (or
hobbling), and I get the "If you lost weight...." line of crap. I'm
5'10" (1.78 meters) and I weigh about 165 lbs. The thinnest I've
been as an adult was 145 pounds when I was 25 until 30. I'm a big
girl, but I'm not fat (my docs want me to *gain* weight because
they say that most of my weight really is my bone structure). That
however, is a whole *other* soapbox that I could spend weeks and
years on (grr).

Strangers actually have the nerve to say comments about your weight or
handicap to you in stores? Don't you use those little motorized carts
they
have at King Soopers and Krogers? Once when I had a hurt foot I drove
one
when shopping and had a few bad moments with strangers with it (very
slow
braking on the things). No one ever says anything to me except, "are
you
sure you should be in the speed lane?" - they only say that one time.
Guess
I just look different from you, and I don't mean that card you
mention.

It never ceases to amaze me what complete strangers will say. A dear friend
of mine was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in her early 30's. This
disease causes (among other things) problems with balance and muscle
control. Well before she was using a cane (and now a wheelchair) she'd get
comments in the grocery store if she lurched or stumbled, "Go sleep it off!"
or "Lush!". People would assume she was drunk! What do you have to do,
wear a big sign around your neck announcing your medical conditions?! It's
ridiculous. I felt so bad for her.

Jill

"Yowie" wrote in
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"Christina Websell" wrote in
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
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This just left me gobsmacked!

http://news.smh.com.au/world/los-ang...new-fastfood-o
utlets-20080730-3n34.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/5hkvhx

Now Big Brother is telling us what we can and can't eat??!!!

The smoking ban was tough on smokers, but at least there was some
rationale that the non-smoking public was put at risk by second-hand
smoke. But who does it hurt when we eat a Big Mac??!


I always suspected that targeting smokers was the thin end of the
wedge until our eating habits were called into question too. Next,
look out if you buy a bottle of wine to have with your meal more than
x times a week..

*Somebody* here in Australia has declared that having more than four
standard drinks in a day is 'binge drinking', and that having more
than 2 standard drinks in a week is 'risky'. The governement is now
putting in plans...

Pardon my swearing, but BULLSH!T.

'Binge Drinking' is when you drink for the sole intention of getting
drunk, and to get *very* drunk at that. Its not a day out at the footy
where 4 beers are consumed over 12 hours and the blood alchohol limit
never gets over 0.05%, or even a night out with your spouse where a
bottle of wine is consumed over a romantic dinner. Getting so
rat-arsed you pass out, do stupid things, and put yourself and other
people in danger, and have no memory of what you've done the next day
is binge drinking, and yes, its dangerous (and yes, like most, I
indulged in binge drinking as a youth). Having a few drinks with your
friends over the course of a weekend is not, IMHO.

Ditto with having two drinks a week. Many studies, many *many*
studies, have found beneficial effects of light to moderate alchol
consumption. And now their trying to tell me that having more than two
standard drinks in 168 hours is 'risky'.

As a person who has perhaps 3 alcoholic drinks on average a week, I
don't think I have an 'alchohol problem'. By defining me like that,
the government is totally detracting from the person who truly does
have an alcoholic problem. And no, I'm not giving up my 3 drinks a
week, I don't think its 'risky' behaviour and the government can sod
off in that regard.

Yowie

I really have no problem if my gov _suggests_ people limit their fast
food intake to X meals a week. If people in certain neighborhoods seem
to eat more than a sensible share of junk (and they do) I don't even mind
if gov tries to target those folks with better information (for the
record fast food is NOT cheap compared to cooking fresh food). I applaud
the gov for telling people _excessive_ drinking is risky but they need to
allow science to put numbers to things if they feel they really need
numbers. Two drinks a week is not risky in anyones book. Two drinks a
day would need other factors to be even close to risky. Four a day,
every day would rise to risky or at least risk factor (that one is an
opinion). I think what you are seeing is the current trend for gov
officials to rely on their "religious" beliefs to make governmental
decisions which is really bad.

"tanadashoes" wrote in message
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"Joy" wrote in message
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People who use that weight line are really reaching for a way to be
nasty. I'm 5'5" and I weigh more than you do - and I've never gotten such
comments. Of course, I guess using a handicapped parking space if you
aren't in a wheelchair is excuse enough for some people to be nasty.



I attract jerks, especially those who want to make rude comments about my
fat. I've tried to develop a thick skin about it, but it hurts when I
hear a kid say "why is that woman fat, mommy?" and the woman answer back
"because she's a pig honey."

Someone once jumped me about parking in the handicapped spot (we have a
placard around here somewhere) and I said, "Gee, you're right. My
husband's brain cancer isn't a handicap, and neither is my RA, mobility
problems, or diabetes." I only used the handicapped spots when it was
raining and I needed to be able to keep Rob as dry as possible so that he
doesn't get sick.

Pam S.

Those are the people that, Bast forgive me, I wish would fall into
circumstances where they become hugely overweight to the point of
grotesqueness. Then have others treat them as they treat people!

Happy Tails,

CatNipped

On Aug 2, 6:48�am, "jmcquown" wrote:
hopitus wrote:
On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
wrote:
Now, when I go into a grocery store, with my handicapped placard (my
walking distance is very short), and people *see* me walking (or
hobbling), and I get the "If you lost weight...." line of crap. �I'm
5'10" (1.78 meters) and I weigh about 165 lbs. �The thinnest I've
been as an adult was 145 pounds when I was 25 until 30. �I'm a big
girl, but I'm not fat (my docs want me to *gain* weight because
they say that most of my weight really is my bone structure). �That
however, is a whole *other* soapbox that I could spend weeks and
years on (grr).

Strangers actually have the nerve to say comments about your weight or
handicap to you in stores? Don't you use those little motorized carts
they
have at King Soopers and Krogers? Once when I had a hurt foot I drove
one
when shopping and had a few bad moments with strangers with it (very
slow
braking on the things). No one ever says anything to me except, "are
you
sure you should be in the speed lane?" - they only say that one time.
Guess
I just look different from you, and I don't mean that card you
mention.

It never ceases to amaze me what complete strangers will say. �A dear friend
of mine was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in her early 30's. �This
disease causes (among other things) problems with balance and muscle
control. �Well before she was using a cane (and now a wheelchair) she'd get
comments in the grocery store if she lurched or stumbled, "Go sleep it off!"
or "Lush!". �People would assume she was drunk! �What do you have to do,
wear a big sign around your neck announcing your medical conditions?! �It's
ridiculous. �I felt so bad for her.

Jill- Hide quoted text -

Yes, people can *really* be nasty that way. My nephew has petit mal
seizures. He's even
had the cops called before and told there was someone "on drugs". And
like Pam mentioned,
people can really be nasty about handicap placards. It just amazes me
to have a total strainger
say "you don't LOOK handicapped". I need to think up a smart-aleck
comeback for that one.
Instead, I stand there like an idiot and explain the whole thing. I've
thought about saying, "OK, you
take the peripheral artery disease, and I'll take the crappy parking
places"

Sherry

My husband was in a wheel chair for 30 years and we heard all the reasons
for using a handicapped parking space. There was a period of time where
anyone who asked their Doctor could park in one. Except for the occasional
teenager or ladies shopping in a gaggle, well it sounded like that, we found
that sort of sorted itself out.

Heart, emphysema (?), back surgery and such are the many that don't snow but
make walking difficult.

One of the Doctors here in town wrote an extensive article about "Mothers to
be" using spaces marked for them. Said most could use the exercise unless
there really was a medical problem.
"CatNipped" wrote in message
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"tanadashoes" wrote in message
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"Joy" wrote in message
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People who use that weight line are really reaching for a way to be
nasty. I'm 5'5" and I weigh more than you do - and I've never gotten
such comments. Of course, I guess using a handicapped parking space if
you aren't in a wheelchair is excuse enough for some people to be nasty.



I attract jerks, especially those who want to make rude comments about my
fat. I've tried to develop a thick skin about it, but it hurts when I
hear a kid say "why is that woman fat, mommy?" and the woman answer back
"because she's a pig honey."

Someone once jumped me about parking in the handicapped spot (we have a
placard around here somewhere) and I said, "Gee, you're right. My
husband's brain cancer isn't a handicap, and neither is my RA, mobility
problems, or diabetes." I only used the handicapped spots when it was
raining and I needed to be able to keep Rob as dry as possible so that he
doesn't get sick.

Pam S.

Those are the people that, Bast forgive me, I wish would fall into
circumstances where they become hugely overweight to the point of
grotesqueness. Then have others treat them as they treat people!

Happy Tails,

CatNipped

With my vision, I use a white can as the sun makes seeing more difficult.
When I am in a store, I can look at a price tag, up really close and, with
luck read it. I always get "If you can read that, you don't need a cane."
This used to bother me but now, I just figure if I don't use it and miss a
step, they really don't want me driving one of those carts around the store.



"Sherry" wrote in message
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On Aug 2, 6:48?am, "jmcquown" wrote:
hopitus wrote:
On Aug 1, 1:41 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
wrote:
Now, when I go into a grocery store, with my handicapped placard (my
walking distance is very short), and people *see* me walking (or
hobbling), and I get the "If you lost weight...." line of crap. ?I'm
5'10" (1.78 meters) and I weigh about 165 lbs. ?The thinnest I've
been as an adult was 145 pounds when I was 25 until 30. ?I'm a big
girl, but I'm not fat (my docs want me to *gain* weight because
they say that most of my weight really is my bone structure). ?That
however, is a whole *other* soapbox that I could spend weeks and
years on (grr).

Strangers actually have the nerve to say comments about your weight or
handicap to you in stores? Don't you use those little motorized carts
they
have at King Soopers and Krogers? Once when I had a hurt foot I drove
one
when shopping and had a few bad moments with strangers with it (very
slow
braking on the things). No one ever says anything to me except, "are
you
sure you should be in the speed lane?" - they only say that one time.
Guess
I just look different from you, and I don't mean that card you
mention.

It never ceases to amaze me what complete strangers will say. ?A dear
friend
of mine was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in her early 30's. ?This
disease causes (among other things) problems with balance and muscle
control. ?Well before she was using a cane (and now a wheelchair) she'd
get
comments in the grocery store if she lurched or stumbled, "Go sleep it
off!"
or "Lush!". ?People would assume she was drunk! ?What do you have to do,
wear a big sign around your neck announcing your medical conditions?!
?It's
ridiculous. ?I felt so bad for her.

Jill- Hide quoted text -

Yes, people can *really* be nasty that way. My nephew has petit mal
seizures. He's even
had the cops called before and told there was someone "on drugs". And
like Pam mentioned,
people can really be nasty about handicap placards. It just amazes me
to have a total strainger
say "you don't LOOK handicapped". I need to think up a smart-aleck
comeback for that one.
Instead, I stand there like an idiot and explain the whole thing. I've
thought about saying, "OK, you
take the peripheral artery disease, and I'll take the crappy parking
places"

Sherry

On Aug 2, 8:43�am, "Granby" wrote:
My husband was in a wheel chair for 30 years and we heard all the reasons
for using a handicapped parking space. �There was a period of time where
anyone who asked their Doctor could park in one. �Except for the occasional
teenager or ladies shopping in a gaggle, well it sounded like that, we found
that sort of sorted itself out.

Heart, emphysema (?), back surgery and such are the many that don't snow but
make walking difficult.

One of the Doctors here in town wrote an extensive article about "Mothers to
be" using spaces marked for them. �Said most could use the exercise unless
there really was a medical problem."CatNipped" wrote in message

On the other hand, I think moms with babies and a gaggle of very small
children could use their
own preferred parking place. Ever see them trying to herd little ones,
while lugging an infant in
one of those huge car-seat things, PLUS their groceries. Sometimes
it's not possible to "leave the
kids at home."
Oh well. I guess that's why babies are for the young and energetic!

Sherry

On Aug 2, 9:24�am, Sherry wrote:
On Aug 2, 8:43 am, "Granby" wrote: My husband was in a wheel chair for 30 years and we heard all the reasons
for using a handicapped parking space. There was a period of time where
anyone who asked their Doctor could park in one. Except for the occasional
teenager or ladies shopping in a gaggle, well it sounded like that, we found
that sort of sorted itself out.

Heart, emphysema (?), back surgery and such are the many that don't snow but
make walking difficult.

One of the Doctors here in town wrote an extensive article about "Mothers to
be" using spaces marked for them. Said most could use the exercise unless
there really was a medical problem."CatNipped" wrote in message

On the other hand, I think moms with babies and a gaggle of very small
children could use their
own preferred parking place. Ever see them trying to herd little ones,
while lugging an infant in
one of those huge car-seat things, PLUS their groceries. Sometimes
it's not possible to "leave the
kids at home."
Oh well. I guess that's why babies are for the young and energetic!

Sherry

While I'm on a rant, it would be nice if the vet had a "dog-free zone"
in the waiting room. Dogs
just freak Yoda out so bad.

Sherry

Sherry wrote:

Yes, people can *really* be nasty that way. My nephew has petit mal
seizures. He's even
had the cops called before and told there was someone "on drugs". And
like Pam mentioned,
people can really be nasty about handicap placards. It just amazes me
to have a total strainger
say "you don't LOOK handicapped". I need to think up a smart-aleck
comeback for that one.
Instead, I stand there like an idiot and explain the whole thing. I've
thought about saying, "OK, you
take the peripheral artery disease, and I'll take the crappy parking
places"

Sherry

This is the whole reason I don't drive a shopping cart. Every time we go to
the grocery store, my husband asks me to take one of those electric carts so
I can keep up with him. I refuse and hobble along 30 feet behind him. If I
rode in a cart I know I'd get looks. "What's *she* doing in a cart? She's
young, she's thin..." I'd rather just try to stick it out walking than
suffer the critical looks and comments (although I probably get them
anyway).

kili