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shared the illuminating thought... I have three MC's (7 year old male, 4 year old female, 1 year old female) all neutered/spayed. The youngest is having difficulty with loose stools or she's experiencing a menstrual cycle (as best as I can describe it). She definitely has the loose stool problem, but it is accompanied with a clear mucus-like discharge. She is eating and drinking and is responsive and otherwise normal though I think she is displeased with her current hygienic state. I cleaned her up this morning and got rid of the loose stool (just like taking care of a baby) which she initially did not enjoy but she's somewhat happier now and lets me approach her. We had another MC female (deceased) who occasionally, say in a 3 to 6 month range, would also have the clear discharge which was accompanied by an odor. This would last for a few days and then things would clear up. When this happened before, the vet said that sometimes there might be material left during the neutering process that could cause this kind of response. The other female (living) had the loose stool problem when we changed food (Nutro) and it disappeared when we changed back (Iams). Any thoughts? Have the anal glands been checked? Normally, the hardness of the stool expresses them a little each time a cat defacates. This gives the stool the odor that identifies the cat to other cats. When the stool is loose for too long, the glands don't get expressed properly and the fluid can leak out, get impacted, or express when the cat grooms. I'd have the vet check her anal glands, express them if necessary, and keep her food to whatever she is used to. Changes in diet can cause loose stool. If changing, change gradually over a week or two by mixing in amounts of the new food with the old food. A cat's heat produces little blood and little odor (to humans). If she is not spayed, she could be in heat. Menstrual cycle apex in cats is called heat, it is when they are ready to breed. They do not ovulate until copulation. If she is spayed, she doesn't have a uterus or ovaries to produce any fluids. This sounds more like an anal gland thing to me. The fluid tends to be clear (or semi-opaque) brownish or whitish, and it has a VERY distinct and not very pleasant odor that is quite noticable to humans. ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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Thank you for the response and information.
As you point out the oder is distinct. She indeed has been spayed and your description could very well explain what is occurring. I'm waiting for a call from the vet which I think will result in a journey for Ms. Mittsee. Is there a way that I can 'express' the glands or is it something that needs hands-on teaching?. Glenn "kaeli" wrote in message ... In article , shared the illuminating thought... I have three MC's (7 year old male, 4 year old female, 1 year old female) all neutered/spayed. The youngest is having difficulty with loose stools or she's experiencing a menstrual cycle (as best as I can describe it). She definitely has the loose stool problem, but it is accompanied with a clear mucus-like discharge. She is eating and drinking and is responsive and otherwise normal though I think she is displeased with her current hygienic state. I cleaned her up this morning and got rid of the loose stool (just like taking care of a baby) which she initially did not enjoy but she's somewhat happier now and lets me approach her. We had another MC female (deceased) who occasionally, say in a 3 to 6 month range, would also have the clear discharge which was accompanied by an odor. This would last for a few days and then things would clear up. When this happened before, the vet said that sometimes there might be material left during the neutering process that could cause this kind of response. The other female (living) had the loose stool problem when we changed food (Nutro) and it disappeared when we changed back (Iams). Any thoughts? Have the anal glands been checked? Normally, the hardness of the stool expresses them a little each time a cat defacates. This gives the stool the odor that identifies the cat to other cats. When the stool is loose for too long, the glands don't get expressed properly and the fluid can leak out, get impacted, or express when the cat grooms. I'd have the vet check her anal glands, express them if necessary, and keep her food to whatever she is used to. Changes in diet can cause loose stool. If changing, change gradually over a week or two by mixing in amounts of the new food with the old food. A cat's heat produces little blood and little odor (to humans). If she is not spayed, she could be in heat. Menstrual cycle apex in cats is called heat, it is when they are ready to breed. They do not ovulate until copulation. If she is spayed, she doesn't have a uterus or ovaries to produce any fluids. This sounds more like an anal gland thing to me. The fluid tends to be clear (or semi-opaque) brownish or whitish, and it has a VERY distinct and not very pleasant odor that is quite noticable to humans. ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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Thank you for the response and information.
As you point out the oder is distinct. She indeed has been spayed and your description could very well explain what is occurring. I'm waiting for a call from the vet which I think will result in a journey for Ms. Mittsee. Is there a way that I can 'express' the glands or is it something that needs hands-on teaching?. Glenn "kaeli" wrote in message ... In article , shared the illuminating thought... I have three MC's (7 year old male, 4 year old female, 1 year old female) all neutered/spayed. The youngest is having difficulty with loose stools or she's experiencing a menstrual cycle (as best as I can describe it). She definitely has the loose stool problem, but it is accompanied with a clear mucus-like discharge. She is eating and drinking and is responsive and otherwise normal though I think she is displeased with her current hygienic state. I cleaned her up this morning and got rid of the loose stool (just like taking care of a baby) which she initially did not enjoy but she's somewhat happier now and lets me approach her. We had another MC female (deceased) who occasionally, say in a 3 to 6 month range, would also have the clear discharge which was accompanied by an odor. This would last for a few days and then things would clear up. When this happened before, the vet said that sometimes there might be material left during the neutering process that could cause this kind of response. The other female (living) had the loose stool problem when we changed food (Nutro) and it disappeared when we changed back (Iams). Any thoughts? Have the anal glands been checked? Normally, the hardness of the stool expresses them a little each time a cat defacates. This gives the stool the odor that identifies the cat to other cats. When the stool is loose for too long, the glands don't get expressed properly and the fluid can leak out, get impacted, or express when the cat grooms. I'd have the vet check her anal glands, express them if necessary, and keep her food to whatever she is used to. Changes in diet can cause loose stool. If changing, change gradually over a week or two by mixing in amounts of the new food with the old food. A cat's heat produces little blood and little odor (to humans). If she is not spayed, she could be in heat. Menstrual cycle apex in cats is called heat, it is when they are ready to breed. They do not ovulate until copulation. If she is spayed, she doesn't have a uterus or ovaries to produce any fluids. This sounds more like an anal gland thing to me. The fluid tends to be clear (or semi-opaque) brownish or whitish, and it has a VERY distinct and not very pleasant odor that is quite noticable to humans. ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
shared the illuminating thought... Thank you for the response and information. As you point out the oder is distinct. She indeed has been spayed and your description could very well explain what is occurring. I'm waiting for a call from the vet which I think will result in a journey for Ms. Mittsee. Is there a way that I can 'express' the glands or is it something that needs hands-on teaching?. It depends on how severe the condition is. Mild cases can be done at home by expressing using the fingers on the outside of the anus at the 8 and 10 o'clock positions with the cat well- secured and the tail lifted (cat is standing or crouched). Moderate has to be done by the vet, as they express by actually putting their fingers inside the anus rather than doing it from the outside. Impaction can even require sedation. Abscess requires surgery. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself until you've seen the vet do it. You could hurt the cat - there's a nerve near the anus and if it is damaged or pinched, could result in a lot of pain for the cat and even incontinence. Also, it isn't pleasant for the cat (or you!) so it usually takes two people. One to hold the cat still and one to do the expression. Or, for my cat, it takes 4 vet techs and the vet. *LOL* ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
shared the illuminating thought... Thank you for the response and information. As you point out the oder is distinct. She indeed has been spayed and your description could very well explain what is occurring. I'm waiting for a call from the vet which I think will result in a journey for Ms. Mittsee. Is there a way that I can 'express' the glands or is it something that needs hands-on teaching?. It depends on how severe the condition is. Mild cases can be done at home by expressing using the fingers on the outside of the anus at the 8 and 10 o'clock positions with the cat well- secured and the tail lifted (cat is standing or crouched). Moderate has to be done by the vet, as they express by actually putting their fingers inside the anus rather than doing it from the outside. Impaction can even require sedation. Abscess requires surgery. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself until you've seen the vet do it. You could hurt the cat - there's a nerve near the anus and if it is damaged or pinched, could result in a lot of pain for the cat and even incontinence. Also, it isn't pleasant for the cat (or you!) so it usually takes two people. One to hold the cat still and one to do the expression. Or, for my cat, it takes 4 vet techs and the vet. *LOL* ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
shared the illuminating thought... Thanks again, We'll be off to the vet on Friday. Since you mentioned the nerve, I wonder if that was why she disagreed with me washing her. I thought it might be because she was tender from the diarrhea, but now I'm wondering if it was the other. I feel sorry for her as she's not a happy camper right now. Tomorrow will be revealing. When they have problems with the anus, either from the glands or from diarrhea, it gets sore. That's why it takes a couple people to clean the glands out, as it is a bit painful for the cat and they squirm. But they feel a lot better after it's done. Let me know what happens. ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
shared the illuminating thought... Thanks again, We'll be off to the vet on Friday. Since you mentioned the nerve, I wonder if that was why she disagreed with me washing her. I thought it might be because she was tender from the diarrhea, but now I'm wondering if it was the other. I feel sorry for her as she's not a happy camper right now. Tomorrow will be revealing. When they have problems with the anus, either from the glands or from diarrhea, it gets sore. That's why it takes a couple people to clean the glands out, as it is a bit painful for the cat and they squirm. But they feel a lot better after it's done. Let me know what happens. ---------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. ---------------------------------------- |
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