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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
I have two major reasons to keep my furries indoors (besides not being
situated where I can build an outdoor run for them): A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/states/florida_managed.htm -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
That is old information things have changed If I am correct
And Please don't be political in the groups it only leads to flaming and a bunch of BS. We have enough of it already "eleaticus" wrote in message ... I have two major reasons to keep my furries indoors (besides not being situated where I can build an outdoor run for them): A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/states/florida_managed.htm -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
"Fuzzy murder" Good one. Never heard that term before. From Republicans or Democrats!! HEE HEE I have two major reasons to keep my furries indoors (besides not being situated where I can build an outdoor run for them): A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/states/florida_managed.htm |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
eleaticus wrote:
I have two major reasons to keep my furries indoors (besides not being situated where I can build an outdoor run for them): A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. And you don't think Democrats pose a problem? I'd be willing to bet it was either a Democrat voter or a non-voter who shot my cat before I rescued her from the street. Or perhaps you think it's perfectly fine if a Democrat kills a cat. B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. Cats that kill birds are not murderers. It's a natural consequence of how nature works. Do you watch nature shows on TV and decry the predation which naturally happens? That includes everything from wasps laying their eggs in moth larvae to lions killing antelope. The largest senseless slaughter of any animal I ever saw came as a result of an orange grove being leveled. It took the bulldozers 2 days to do it and the day it happened, I saw dozens of birds deadon the road next to it. They simply had nowhere to run and were hit by cars. Of course, the irony was that those birds would never have had that habitat if it weren't for the fact that people developed that land into orange groves in the first place. http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/states/florida_managed.htm -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
"I dont know" wrote in message
. .. eleaticus wrote: A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. And you don't think Democrats pose a problem? Per admonition I decline to make a reference to kyoto, or any other relevant matter! B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. Cats that kill birds are not murderers. It's a natural consequence of how nature works. When we subsidize the carnivore it is murder. The largest senseless slaughter of any animal I ever saw came as a result of an orange grove being leveled. It took the bulldozers 2 days to do it and the day it happened, I saw dozens of birds deadon the road next to it. They simply had nowhere to run and were hit by cars. Of course, the irony was that those birds would never have had that habitat if it weren't for the fact that people developed that land into orange groves in the first place. What was the acreage before it became an orange grove? A parking lot? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
eleaticus wrote:
I dont know wrote: eleaticus wrote: B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. Cats that kill birds are not murderers. It's a natural consequence of how nature works. When we subsidize the carnivore it is murder. Cats are obligate carnivores; they must eat meat -- and almost nothing but meat -- in order to survive and be healthy. They aren't merely unable to synthesize protein from carbohydrates as herbivores and omnivores do, they lack the biochemical machinery to effectively turn non-animal protein into a form they can use themselves. Worse, they'll die without certain essential amino acids -- taurine, most notably -- which are only present in animals. In the case of taurine, it's only found in significant concentrations in heart muscle. Humans, to a much lesser extent, are also obligate carnivores. It's only with the advent of modern food processing techniques that foods such as tofu have become available which come close to meeting human protein needs...and, even then, the balance isn't quite right and you get additional hormone-mimicing compounds in the mix that aren't healthy when used as a sole source of protein. Other legumes are good foods, but contain much too many carbohydrates to be suitable as sole protein sources. Besides which, prey species are just as dependent upon predator species not just for survival but for health and quality of life. Without predators to keep populations in check, entire populations of prey species will die horrible deaths from starvation as they overrun their food supply. In the process, they'll typically destroy their environment from over-grazing, causing nasty ripple effects up and down the food chain. Having said that, we, as humans, are in a position to treat our own prey species more humanely than they would be treated in the wild. We can pamper them while they're alive, giving them stress-free lives with plenty of good food and comfortably generous open areas to roam around in, free from worry about attacks from other predators. And, when we take our own position as predator, we can ensure that the prey animal doesn't even have a clue of what's happening and never feels any pain or fear. We also should take care to ensure that carnivores we've adopted behave in a responsible manner. A cat who feasts on pigeons is doing the environment a great service. One who dines on threatened or endangered species needs to be forcibly restrained. Death is inevitable. It's what we do with life that counts. If you can come up with a food synthesizer that meets dietary requirements and doesn't come with nasty environmental side effects -- Fred Pohl's CHON comet harvester comes to mind -- and if you can also implement effective population control measures in prey species, then you can reasonably suggest a moral alternative to meat diets for carnivores. Until then, your choices are suffering or suicide. Cheers, b& -- EAC Memographer BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy ``All but God can prove this sentence true.'' ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
You don't need to protect them from Republicans. Research has shown that
Democrats tend to volunteer and support causes like the homeless (human), programs that help low income people, etc. Republicans tend to support animal related causes. Joe "eleaticus" wrote in message ... I have two major reasons to keep my furries indoors (besides not being situated where I can build an outdoor run for them): A. To keep them safe from dogs, cars, ticks, fleas, Republicans. B. To keep feathered and furred critters safe from them. it just isn't fair to subsidize fuzzy murder. http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/states/florida_managed.htm -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
"Joe Pitt" wrote in message
news:krZ8h.4216$_x3.2345@trndny02... You don't need to protect them from Republicans. Research has shown that Democrats tend to volunteer and support causes like the homeless (human), programs that help low income people, etc. Republicans tend to support animal related causes. Joe Hey! Thanks for that. Do you have a link or unlikely-to-be-guessed key word for me? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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I lose cats but it is birds that need protection
eleaticus wrote:
The largest senseless slaughter of any animal I ever saw came as a result of an orange grove being leveled. It took the bulldozers 2 days to do it and the day it happened, I saw dozens of birds deadon the road next to it. They simply had nowhere to run and were hit by cars. Of course, the irony was that those birds would never have had that habitat if it weren't for the fact that people developed that land into orange groves in the first place. What was the acreage before it became an orange grove? A parking lot? No, it was desert. And for those out there who don't know, the desert is a VERY beautiful environment which harbors lots of life. |
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