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Joy wrote:

"Bastette" wrote in message

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or
is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find
out, could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

I've been searching on line. I haven't found any new ones, but I did find
some reconditioned ones with 7, and my son says they should be fine, as long
as they have all the features I want (or the ones he thinks I need). I
think there are some reconditioned ones at Best Buy and ebay.

Is Best Buy the same as Tiger Direct? (Or is that Circuit City?) I was
looking on Tiger Direct and they have quite a few "refurbished" laptops
with Windows 7 in the $200-300 range. New ones with 7 are more like $500-
600. Is that what you are seeing?

I agree with you about the changes. I don't think I've ever gotten any
upgrade of anything that didn't cause more problems than it solved. My
conclusion is that "new and improved" usually isn't either.

Certainly not when it comes to Microsoft!

--
Joyce

Fluffy Mackerel Pudding - "Once upon a time, the world was young and the words 'mackerel' and 'pudding' existed far, far away from one another. One day, that all changed. And then, whoever was responsible somehow thought the word 'fluffy' would help." -- Hilarious recipes at: www.candyboots.com

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Joy wrote:

"Bastette" wrote in message

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one,
or
is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you
find
out, could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

I've been searching on line. I haven't found any new ones, but I did
find
some reconditioned ones with 7, and my son says they should be fine, as
long
as they have all the features I want (or the ones he thinks I need). I
think there are some reconditioned ones at Best Buy and ebay.

Is Best Buy the same as Tiger Direct? (Or is that Circuit City?) I was
looking on Tiger Direct and they have quite a few "refurbished" laptops
with Windows 7 in the $200-300 range. New ones with 7 are more like $500-
600. Is that what you are seeing?

I don't know. We have both Best Buy and Circuit City stores in my extended
area. I've never heard of Tiger Direct. The prices sound about right,
though.

Joy



I agree with you about the changes. I don't think I've ever gotten any
upgrade of anything that didn't cause more problems than it solved. My
conclusion is that "new and improved" usually isn't either.

Certainly not when it comes to Microsoft!

--
Joyce

Fluffy Mackerel Pudding - "Once upon a time, the world was young and the
words 'mackerel' and 'pudding' existed far, far away from one another. One
day, that all changed. And then, whoever was responsible somehow thought
the word 'fluffy' would help." -- Hilarious recipes at:
www.candyboots.com

On 10/10/2013 10:39 AM, Booker wrote:

I do identity theft investigations for the police dept.

Cool, then you'd probably be familiar with the database our customer,
the Federal Trade Commission, keep on identity theft complaints. LE
uses our system for research.

Facebook is
rarely a component. The only problem is when people don't set the proper
privacy controls, and let the whole world read their page. AND when they
list relatives (e.g., grandchildren) and their relationship to them.
Then we see the "grandparent scam." Google it if you're not familiar
with it.

Do a search on Facecrooks on your Facebook page and "like" them. They
have a lot of good suggestions and warnings.

Agree. You shouldn't leave the default settings for facebook at all.
Some are annoying and some are just not the most intuitive if you want
to keep your information available to only those you trust. And NEVER
friend someone you don't know, even if they say they are the nephew of
your great-grandmothers favorite cousin's co-worker.

--
CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980.

On 10/11/2013 4:35 PM, Bastette wrote:

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or
is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find out,
could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

I found one with Windows 7 and bought one just because when I need a new
one, it will probably be harder to find one with Win 7. So it is still
in the box for when I need it.

--
CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980.

"Judith Latham" wrote in message
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In article , Joy
wrote:
"Bastette" wrote in message
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Joy wrote:

I hear you, Winnie! I'm currently using Windows XP and know I'm
going to need a new computer very soon. I hate the idea of
learning a new operating system. Incidentally, my son, who is a
programmer, has advised me to try to find a computer that comes
with Windows 7, as he considers it far superior to Windows 8.

The hard disk on my laptop crashed the other night. It's an old
computer, and at this point, I'm thinking I should just get another
one. I dropped it off this morning at a repair shop so they could try
to get my data off of the disk. (I do backups, but not often enough.
Bad computer user, bad!)

While talking to the guy at the front desk, I was reminded that new
PCs have Windows 8. He complained about it and said it was really hard
to use, and he's a tech guy, so you're in good company.

In the past, I was lucky because I managed to escape the disaster that
was Vista. Then Windows 7 came out, and I figured I'd buy a laptop
with that, when the time came. But I waited too long, apparently.

*Why do they do this*? They have something that works, that people are
happy with, so they decide to change a bunch of stuff that makes it
unusable.

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one,
or is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you
find out, could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

Thanks!

-- Joyce

The heck with top and bottom -- I want relationships with strangeness
and charm.

I've been searching on line. I haven't found any new ones, but I did
find some reconditioned ones with 7, and my son says they should be
fine, as long as they have all the features I want (or the ones he
thinks I need). I think there are some reconditioned ones at Best Buy
and ebay.

I agree with you about the changes. I don't think I've ever gotten any
upgrade of anything that didn't cause more problems than it solved. My
conclusion is that "new and improved" usually isn't either.

Joy

I'm certainly with you on that. why mend it if it isn't broken. It's
change for the sake of it.

Judith

--
Judith Latham
Stourbridge, West Midlands. UK.

Well that, and the money. If they can convince people that the new version
is better, they'll buy it, even though they don't need it. I don't convince
that easily.

Joy

On 10/11/2013 4:35 PM, Bastette wrote:
In the past, I was lucky because I managed to escape the disaster that was
Vista. Then Windows 7 came out, and I figured I'd buy a laptop with that,
when the time came. But I waited too long, apparently.

Oh, Vista wasn't *too* bad.

*Why do they do this*? They have something that works, that people are
happy with, so they decide to change a bunch of stuff that makes it unusable.

From what I've read (which isn't much) Windows 8 is geared to work
better with touch-screens and tablet-type devices.

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or
is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find out,
could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

Thanks!

You can still find new computers with Windows 7. For how much longer?
I don't know. Good luck in your search!

Jill

Joy wrote:

"Bastette" wrote in message

Is Best Buy the same as Tiger Direct? (Or is that Circuit City?)

I don't know. We have both Best Buy and Circuit City stores in my extended
area. I've never heard of Tiger Direct. The prices sound about right,
though.

Lucky you. I haven't seen any brick & mortar electronics stores in my
area in a long time. Unless you count Office Depot or Staples (which
primarily sell stationery and office supplies - they also sell computers,
but they don't specialize in electronics).

Tiger Direct is an online electronics store. I'd heard that they were
the reincarnation (as it were) of one of the stores, either Circuit City
or Best Buy. Sounds like neither of those has completely left the "meat
world" just yet.

--
Joyce

Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me,
for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me
the hell alone. -- Unknown

Cheryl wrote:

On 10/11/2013 4:35 PM, Bastette wrote:

So, to find a computer with Windows 7, do you have to buy a used one, or
is your son saying that you can find a NEW one with 7? Whatever you find out,
could you pass it on to me? I'm in the market now myself.

I found one with Windows 7 and bought one just because when I need a new
one, it will probably be harder to find one with Win 7. So it is still
in the box for when I need it.

For how much, if you don't mind my asking?

--
Joyce

Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me,
for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me
the hell alone. -- Unknown

Judith Latham wrote:

I agree with you about the changes. I don't think I've ever gotten any
upgrade of anything that didn't cause more problems than it solved. My
conclusion is that "new and improved" usually isn't either.
Joy

I'm certainly with you on that. why mend it if it isn't broken. It's
change for the sake of it.

More likely for the profit.

People tease me because although I work in the tech sector, my own
electronic possessions are usually way out of date. Some people view
me as a Luddite. But I'm not afraid of new things. It's just that
what I already have suits me fine, and I'd rather not throw good money
at wasteful consumerism, consigning perfectly usable items to the
landfill. When my machine becomes unusable, then I'll get a new one.

OK, end of sermon for the day. Let's just leave it at: I'm cheap.

--
Joyce

Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me,
for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me
the hell alone. -- Unknown

"Bastette" wrote in message
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Joy wrote:

"Bastette" wrote in message

Is Best Buy the same as Tiger Direct? (Or is that Circuit City?)

I don't know. We have both Best Buy and Circuit City stores in my
extended
area. I've never heard of Tiger Direct. The prices sound about right,
though.

Lucky you. I haven't seen any brick & mortar electronics stores in my
area in a long time. Unless you count Office Depot or Staples (which
primarily sell stationery and office supplies - they also sell computers,
but they don't specialize in electronics).

Tiger Direct is an online electronics store. I'd heard that they were
the reincarnation (as it were) of one of the stores, either Circuit City
or Best Buy. Sounds like neither of those has completely left the "meat
world" just yet.

--
Joyce

Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me,
for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me
the hell alone. -- Unknown

Well, it could be Circuit City. When I said there was one in my area, I was
actually talking about several miles away. I haven't been there for years,
so it could have closed. I know we have a Best Buy in my city, though.
That's where I got my flat screen TV.

Joy