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Now that most of the shock has worn off....
"Joy" wrote in message . .. "Jane" wrote in message ... On Jul 5, 8:15 am, outsider wrote: Jane wrote in news:4aca6bb2-547f-434f-aefd- : I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue. The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that was it. They wanted me Off The Project, and I wasn't even allowed to go back to my office to pick up my purse. He had to go get it for me. My co-workers have to pack up the rest of my stuff. I've been there almost exactly 4 years. Everybody seems to like me. A couple of departments think I can walk on water because I always take the time to take care of them properly (helping them with computer stuff). One of my co-workers called me at home to find out details, and he says that this is 'messed up'. Even the project manager was ****ed. There's something funny going on, and he needs ask some questions. Meanwhile, I have full pay until the end of July, and benefits until the end of August. That's it. 2 months to find a new job. I spent most of Friday evening on the phone, yelling that 'that Rat ******* FIRED me!!' I had to get that out of my system, you see, because calling him 'that rat *******' in an interview wouldn't go over well. *grin* Officially, this is going to be called a layoff, so getting a new job shouldn't be a problem. I would enjoy this 'vacation' so much more if I knew when the ending would be. *sigh* The Princess Rita doesn't seem to care that I'm home. I think this is going to hit really hard on Monday, when I have nowhere to go. Jane - owned and operated by the Princess Rita What reason was given? Andy The boss claimed that I didn't know my job well enough. Anyone who actually *works* with me says that he's a liar and it's a bogus charge. I'm contract, he's government, so there's no chance of fighting it. They are talking about outsourcing the data center, and this may be just the first in a long line of unfair firings just so the government doesn't have to pay severance. Your tax dollars at work, folks. Jane Aside from the fact that the "reason" was obviously bogus, even if it were true, that would be no excuse for not letting you go back to get your own purse. What a jerk! Joy The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the situation or get sued by anyone you single out. Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly as quickly. Jo |
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hopitus wrote:
On Jul 5, 12:57 pm, Jane wrote: On Jul 5, 8:15 am, outsider wrote: Jane wrote in news:4aca6bb2-547f-434f-aefd- : I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue. The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that was it. What reason was given? Andy The boss claimed that I didn't know my job well enough. Anyone who actually *works* with me says that he's a liar and it's a bogus charge. I'm contract, he's government, so there's no chance of fighting it. They are talking about outsourcing the data center, and this may be just the first in a long line of unfair firings just so the government doesn't have to pay severance. Your tax dollars at work, folks. Jane Your latest post here reiterates what happened to a relative of mine. She was also "contract" and it was "gov't military"employment of several years. I am beginning to be suspicious of this "contract" and/ or "consultant" stuff - which BTW I always worked medically for large hospital corporations on a payroll w/accompanying benefits. I totally go with Evelyn's outlook on the whole layoff/firing thing. White House Occupant just made headlines for signing a 164B war budget which will go on after he's out...talk about tax $$$, Jill? Huh?! I didn't say anything about tax dollars. Jill |
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Phoenix wrote:
outsider wrote: What reason was given? I'm contract, he's government, so there's no chance of fighting it. They are talking about outsourcing the data center, and this may be just the first in a long line of unfair firings You should also be eligible for COBRA (carrying on your group health insurance) benefits, if you pay the premium, for 18 months after the last day they pay for, so don't buy the "one month more insurance" thing. Except with COBRA you have to pay the entire premium yourself. Most people who have been covered by a group policy (and many contract workers aren't) have no idea what the total premium is until they get the COBRA information in the mail. When I lost my job the premium was going to be over $350/month, and that was just single coverage. I've no idea how families manage. Another option, again assuming Jane had the employer's group insurance, is Conversion. This is an option to convert to an individual policy, rather than continue on the group policy under COBRA. It's worth checking into both options, but neither one is going to be cheap. The employer must notify you of these options within 30 days; the employee (if previously covered) has 60 days to elect to continue under COBRA or to convert their coverage to an individual policy. Sometimes having had an insurance license comes in handy. LOL Jill |
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Joy wrote:
"Jane" wrote in message ... On Jul 5, 8:15 am, outsider wrote: Jane wrote in news:4aca6bb2-547f-434f-aefd- : I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue. The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that was it. Jane - owned and operated by the Princess Rita What reason was given? Andy The boss claimed that I didn't know my job well enough. Anyone who actually *works* with me says that he's a liar and it's a bogus charge. Jane Aside from the fact that the "reason" was obviously bogus, even if it were true, that would be no excuse for not letting you go back to get your own purse. What a jerk! Joy Unfortunately, that's the norm these days. Jill |
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Jofirey wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message Aside from the fact that the "reason" was obviously bogus, even if it were true, that would be no excuse for not letting you go back to get your own purse. What a jerk! The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the situation or get sued by anyone you single out. Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly as quickly. So why don't they get someone else to bring her the purse, along with any other personal item she needs, while she waits with the security person at the front door? That couldn't be *that* hard to do. -- Joyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ |
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"Jofirey" wrote in message ... The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the situation or get sued by anyone you single out. Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly as quickly. Jo Unfortunately, that pretty well sums it up. It is unusual to do this without any advance notice, but even that is becoming more common. The only time I saw that happen is when the head of the computer department was fired. He was permitted to go back to his office for his personal items, but only with a security officer accompanying him. There were apparently concerns that damage could be done very quickly to the computer system. MaryL |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message
. .. wrote: Jofirey wrote: "Joy" wrote in message Aside from the fact that the "reason" was obviously bogus, even if it were true, that would be no excuse for not letting you go back to get your own purse. What a jerk! The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the situation or get sued by anyone you single out. Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly as quickly. So why don't they get someone else to bring her the purse, along with any other personal item she needs, while she waits with the security person at the front door? That couldn't be *that* hard to do. Jane said the project manager got her purse for her. The project manager could have gone with her and let her get her own purse. Joy |
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
. .. "Jofirey" wrote in message ... The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the situation or get sued by anyone you single out. Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly as quickly. Jo Unfortunately, that pretty well sums it up. It is unusual to do this without any advance notice, but even that is becoming more common. The only time I saw that happen is when the head of the computer department was fired. He was permitted to go back to his office for his personal items, but only with a security officer accompanying him. There were apparently concerns that damage could be done very quickly to the computer system. MaryL I can see that such concerns would be valid, especially when somebody had been blindsided like that. However, I still think they could have treated her like a human being by letting someone accompany her to get her purse and any other personal items. I know that when I was working, I had various things of my own in or on my desk. Joy |
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